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Unpopular opinion: adc isnt broken

Walmart Porn·8/17/2017, 10:32:56 PM·4 votes·335 views

As of right now i see lots of posts complaining about adc being an over powered role, which really isnt the case but it is stronger than it should be. But, lets look at why because its not the adc;s themselves that are broken. Lets start with the most simple, this chick. Janna her shield at max rank gives 40 base AD with a 10 % cooldown (reduced to around 6 seconds by max cdr) Now you factor in windspeakers which gives an additional 10% shield /heal and increases your armour up to 22, and your mr up to 11. So far your stat gains are = 240 shield hp + 40 ad + 22 armour + 11 mr. Strong but not unbreakable.But lets not stop here, now we need to factor in item 3504 which is a staple for her giving an additional 20-35 % attack speed and on hit magic damage that heals the user. So lets see where we are here now. 40 ad + 35 % attack speed + 240 shield + 20-35 on hit hp steal + 22ar/11mr from one item and a shield that has a 6 second cooldown. Now factor in that jannas shield scales with ap although not heavily so late game youre going to be giving about 60 ad. So lets look at the stats Adjusted for scaling. 60 base ad, 35% attack speed, 240 ( + 10% ard windspeakers and redem each so lets say 270 shield) 22 armour, 11 mr and slight hp sap from one item. Now you calculate the adc items. Seeing as you have constant hp shielding and a good source of peel you dont need to rush a life steal item. So lets say you are 20 minutes in, 25 minutes mabye and you only have item 3031 and item 3087 . Add in all the other bonuses you get from your support having one completed item and yes, you get a massive power spike compared to those who dont. Purely because of item 3504 item 3109 item 3050 supports occupy 5 of the top 10 highest win rates in the game (see bottom) and 2 of the top 10 most popular (2) but the second one isnt as supririsng untill you see that Janna and thresh literally are more popular than ALL mid lane assasians in the game currently including yasuo who is considered legendairy for how many bad players spam him in solo que. Zed ahri leblanc talon katarina and even syndra are lower than janna on the popularity ranking when two months ago no one even played her. Im all for supports being strong as a support main myself but they have been drastically over tuned with items and now its making adc's look like the problem when theyre really not and just do all the things they have always done. The fact that you can build cencer on any support with a heal or shield and drastically buff your adc is a big problem even if theyre not AS strong as jannas, still granting an extra 35% attack speed , along with a heal or shield and hp drain may as well be an extra free adc item. THIS is why tristana and twitch have suddenly become popular. Their kits diddnt change at all, just the champions you play with them

(1) http://www.lolking.net/charts#/Highest%20Winrate%20Champions - current highest champion win rates

(2) http://www.lolking.net/charts#/Most%20Popular%20Champions - Popularity ranking of champions

16 Comments

Sp33d Zer08/17/2017, 10:36:29 PM4 votes

I think you would do much better with this point if you took it to reddit or somewhere ADCs aren't the most hated role and have personally violated most of the boards mothers.

Ahristocats8/17/2017, 10:34:12 PM3 votes

not understanding

do you see any other class that are broken with a support? because i don't

i only see marksmen being living tanks, while mages, or assassins, vanguards, or slayers are fine with supports so why are supports broken and not marksmen?

WorryWolfy8/17/2017, 10:35:02 PM3 votes

ADC power is gated. There is no reason that other roles cant function and elo boosters seldom touch the adc role. Yes, ADC has some high power spikes and troughs which are different between various adcs. This isn't relevant at most levels of play that almost every league of legends player can even hope to reach.

Sir Fuzzi8/17/2017, 10:57:31 PM2 votes

I wish people would stop whitewashing the argument and then running away with a wall of text, based on that whitewashing.

People are mad that the ADC meta has a vice-grip on everything's balls. The ADC meta is just expanded Protect Koggles. The ADC itemization is 'just in case you end up alone, you may just 2v1'. The ADC playstyle is 'hit late game, do whatever.' The ADC theme is 'ded before it go to ur hed.' The crit game is insane, ADCs are lacking for very little and the only ways to beat them reliably, most of them can meet head-on (some of them will downright turn a dive into a kill for themselves). They're not fun to face anymore, and sometimes the right supp combo can tilt a lane into full unplayable.

ADCs aren't themselves overpowered, the game is just leaning into them being far more important than they realistically need to be. Everything surrounds making the ADC look good more and more, and games are more effectively won by coddling your ADC through objectives and lanes than by properly applying tactics to a constantly-changing scenario.

Rins Thigh Socks8/17/2017, 10:37:45 PM1 votes

tl;dr you think support itemization is broken?

Because if that's what you're trying to say you're absolutely right. There's a reason the best top/jg champs synergize with rushing Stoneplate into Locket and Knight's Vow.

Executioner8/17/2017, 11:04:06 PM1 votes

Late game, most of the time, the only reason I survive a team fight is my support.