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This SKT vs FNC game deserves a remake.

BranchofSin5580··36 votes·4,463 views

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsMHFs4Cp7s

need I say more?

You remade the GMB vs SK Game last year because of an Aatrox bug that had no impact whatsoever (hey, it's aatrox wtf is he going to do)

This one was trully gamechanging, this one was literally the turning point of the match, this one deserves a remake.

35 Comments

DestructoDave13 votes

Was pretty dumb. It was obvious a bug happened and affected the game. It shouldn't be the team's job to /pause and worry about it when its a bug within the game. At first, it looked like a flash, and then he flashed later, showing it was a bug; a game changing bug.

It basically gave Sk a baron for free; they were losing. It was a game changing bug and pretty much ruined the only good game of the entire MSI so far.

You would think they would make a system to combat these kinds of things, possibly some kind of auto-save function simply for Pro play considering how hard they are pushing Esports, so that they could just go back to the few seconds before a bug affected the game, or any other thing that ruins a game.

pE4CbxDPQO1 votes

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possibly some kind of auto-save function simply for Pro play so that they could just go back to the few seconds before a bug affected the game

This would be ideal as fuck. I imagine that this would be difficult, but doable for a company with a cool $1,000,000,000.

DestructoDave1 votes

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This would be ideal as fuck. I imagine that this would be difficult, but doable for a company with a cool $1,000,000,000.

I dont see how it could be difficult. Its no different then people saving games. How many of you play a single player game thats difficult and just save it over and over and over? I dont see how it would be difficult to have a system autosaving a game every 5-10 seconds.

ULTRAF0RCE1 votes

How often do you see people who can use old saves in an mmo though?

Wizardavar2 votes

That wouldn't work in all cases, and if you know something is coming, you can choose a alternative action. You are not going to ward a bush that got you killed, you would stay the hell away from it.

pE4CbxDPQO1 votes

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That wouldn't work in all cases, and if you know something is coming, you can choose a alternative action. You are not going to ward a bush that got you killed, you would stay the hell away from it.

This is something that is very rare that were talking about here. More than likely not abusable.

Vixanys7 votes

I don't believe its going to happen, Fnatic didn't pause the game to report it. I thought it was a bug with the spectator because Reignover looked like someone that fail-flashed.

EDITNot to say I wouldn't completely agree with a remake if it was indeed a bug, but it just looked like a spectator visual issue here at MSI.

BranchofSin55802 votes

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I don't believe its going to happen, Fnatic didn't pause the game to report it. I thought it was a bug with the spectator because Reignover looked like someone that fail-flashed.

EDITNot to say I wouldn't completely agree with a remake if it was indeed a bug, but it just looked like a spectator visual issue here at MSI.

it was a bug, it happens a lot in soloq aswell.

this time it just happened to be a game changer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n-Gmv7a9q4

Vixanys10 votes

Rito just announced that since Fnatic didn't pause (as they know from the rules to notify of the Bug) then the match stands.

BranchofSin55808 votes

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Rito just announced that since Fnatic didn't pause (as they know from the rules to notify of the Bug) then the match stands.

better /pause in the middle of a teamfight rofl

Vixanys2 votes

It's been done for smaller things. I don't see why they wouldn't. My only assumption is that they felt they were still going to win.

ULTRAF0RCE4 votes

Yep, thats also why SKT1 didnt pause the game for the same error earlier even though it cost them baron.

Biffolo1 votes

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better /pause in the middle of a teamfight rofl

You do it right after.

MCBiggah992 votes

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better /pause in the middle of a teamfight rofl

Are you dumb? Of course just /pause in the middle of a teamfight, because the damn teamfight doesn't matter if it gets remade.

Armeris2 votes

Fail flash? WTH are you talking? Did you see the replay? He use the flash a few second after the bug:

Jump the wall, bug --> he appear on the previous side of the wall, get a lot of dmg, then flash.

Vixanys1 votes

I said he looked like he failed flash, with the sejuani jump. I'm sorry you cannot comprehend what you are reading.

Learn to read, I'm busy at MSI watching games so I can't mother you or teach you to understand what you are reading.

Spikeman716 votes

Or to not a be a douche.

KazaLyn Shao5 votes

FNC would have had to give up a winning position to get a remake. That's not a happy place to be. They still had a chance to win the game. They chose to keep the game instead of remaking and giving SKT a chance to learn from the early game.

Legacy of Ra4 votes

It's been said multiple times, but if it was really that big of an issue, Fnatic should have paused the game. Yes, in the very middle of the teamfight. Why? Because it wouldn't have mattered and the officials probably would have done something like reset the situations (make everyone return to the fountain), or even reset the match if the former suggestion wasn't plausible.

They didn't call for a reset because they were still very confident they were going to win the game, and it came back and bit them in the ass. Even so, they made an incredibly poor decision to actually engage that teamfight after Sejuani was so low. She landed a multi-target ult and could have just disengaged while the rest of the team, which hadn't taken a single hit, could have kept SKT from pulling Baron.

Instead, they over-committed to a bad situation and, in the end, lost the game because of it. So yes, while that "bug" was unfortunate, it didn't cost them the game. Fnatic's decision to keep pushing the play, even after they got put on their heels from that unfortunate occurrence, lost them the game.

There's no need to make excuses for these guys, especially since they're playing SKT in the playoffs (and beating them the one time wasn't going to knock SKT out of the playoffs, in the first place). Professionals make mistakes, too. It happens. You want your remake? Here it is.

The Bíg Ticket2 votes

Well gamechanging bug to be honest but SKT might win the remake anyway. Well played by Fnatic though.

pE4CbxDPQO2 votes

Its tricky, if they stop to pause the game and report the bug then there is probably a remake... when FNC is up like 5k gold and doing well vs one of the best teams in the world, BUT they obviously wind up in a tough spot in this exact moment. It's not something that happens often and nobody plans for it. My friend said that it also happened to Lucian though. Says he dashed over the baron wall and got moved back then had to run around the pit.

TitanBlackReaper2 votes

It also happened to Lucian and cost SKT baron xD it stands. Get over it. FNC didnt call for a ref.. This thread has been posted like 40 times

BranchofSin55801 votes

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It also happened to Lucian and cost SKT baron xD it stands. Get over it. FNC didnt call for a ref.. This thread has been posted like 40 times

It happened to Lucian but they didn't lose the Baron because of it.

They lost Baron because Nunu somehow got outsmited by Sejuani rofl.

TitanBlackReaper1 votes

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It happened to Lucian but they didn't lose the Baron because of it.

They lost Baron because Nunu somehow got outsmited by Sejuani rofl.

No, Lucian had to walk all the way around and cost DPS on baron. They lost baron at like 700 hp which lucian woulda done had he not glitched.

64931067_DEL1 votes

I afraid that if there is a remake, SKT will crush FNC pretty hard. Marin will never build 2nd Deathcap and feeding so many like this game. Btw, it looks like not a bug, its only happen when you fail a cross-wall dash.

EDIT : And the Baron steal of Reignover... Could you guarantee that it will happen one more times?

The Witcher1 votes

There is speculation that this is just a spectate bug, but when I look at champion reactions to the situation, they are all taken by surprise.

Look at yellow star, he is pathing towards the lane thinking that reignover made it over the wall, but it takes him a good 1~2 seconds to react to reignover appearing back again. Look at steelback with a similar reaction at top of the screen. Even Skt Wolf is taken by surprise and places a ward down before pulverizing reignover. I made be looking too deep into it, but if it's a bug but no the spectate, it really ruined the game.

Vixanys6 votes

And in the rules for this sort of thing, it is up to Fnatic to pause the game and announce to the Ref that there was a bug.

They failed to do so, so the match stands. >.< It sucks!

Armeris1 votes

Did you see the replay? He use the flash a few second after the bug:

Jump the wall, the bug, he appear on the previous side of the wall, get a lot of dmg, then flash.

Hylian Will1 votes

FNATIC didn't pause the game because they knew they were ahead and it's BS if they decide to remake the game cause i just see it like this "Oh dont report it we can win and if we don't, we bitch about it so we get a remake" So no, if they didn't pause it they can't ask for a remake, rules apply to everyone.

0zv33oiWTP1 votes

Deserves a remake? Sure.

You think FNC wanted to remake that game vs SKT? No of course not. That is why they didn't pause.

15-3 and FNC was still tied in gold with SKT. This does not happen AT ALL. SKT was getting more resources off the map while FNC was getting kills and giving up resources.

Snake Town1 votes

wow that was pretty bad, rito pls

handstandpushup1 votes

I only don't want to see the rematch because i worry fnatic would get manhandled the second time around. I'd like to keep believing that them doing so well against skt wasnt a fluke . But a rematch just might shatter that illusion

Cindikle1 votes

The issue last year with GMB vs SK was that the call was to ignore the bug and continue the game. It was a very minor bug that would go away quickly(I think on his next skill up or so). Despite this, they had the game replayed. Neither team asked for this either. Or so they claim. This was all on Riot's calling.

It's in their own rule book that all decisions made during a game are final to prevent further issues. Yet they themselves broke this rule and made it an issue. Not only that but you could tell it effected the rematch.

Bugs happen all the time in games. It's going to happen and often pro's handle it fine. The problem is what Riot breaks their own rules and callings.

If I recall, Aatrox didn't even win them that game. He had a minor effect and the other lanes got fed/ahead. It was a huge pile of BS.

Stillname1 votes

Would deserve a remake if the outcome mattered... if skt lost they would be 4-1 but have the head to head win over edg so they would still be first and fanatic would be 3-2 but have the head to head loss vs ahq so they would still be 4th..

Turns out there is a "remake" of sorts about to happen today... a bo5 series between Fanatic and SKT.... if the games go like the one yesterday did it should be pretty good...

Bídoof1 votes

Wow my favorite team got destroyed... omg there was a slight bug. Totally unfair, they had that game! Remake rito!

We all know if Fnatic won because SKT had the same bug, NO ONE would want a remake. Just stop whining, fnatic lost

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