Time for Sven and DL to retire
Both garbage. Sven's been out smited by just about everyone. DL never knows where he is on the map. He could be in the enemy fountain and he wouldn't know it. TSM is garbage.
Both garbage. Sven's been out smited by just about everyone. DL never knows where he is on the map. He could be in the enemy fountain and he wouldn't know it. TSM is garbage.
The problem is this. Who in NA is better at the bot spot that is available? We all know NA is junk at the bot position. Is TSM at a point where they should just junk the team and bite the bullet and go with an up and comer that hopefully they can build up into something like immortals is trying? I don't think they are there yet and if you're going to make that sort of change, you make it at a point where your window is closed. TSM isn't there yet.
Didnt NA cry for DL to return few weeks ago?
By the way the problems with TSM right now go far beyond just Doublelift and Svenskeren. It still amazes me how fast things can just fall apart for a team.
Lift lift is fine imo. He gas fairly consistant preformances. Sven is the real problem though if hes not on a tank he just gets picked off over and over and over
NA Challenger is nothing but 1 tricks and not to mention while they are good at the game they're mental strength is lacking.
Enemy team bans out Annie, Draven, Yasuo, Zed, GP, Karthus, Riven, Lee sin those certain players dodge. Outside of certain players NA just isn't a good area for talent or "free agents" to say the least, we have no talent in NA so it has to be more foreign players to fill the roster.
Svenskeren - While I do agree he's pretty bad at times and goes on long sprees of horrible games, we can't forget that TSM was really built around a concept of A. An aggressive Jungle and B. Only camps Mid AKA the star of the team = Team Solomid(pun).
Sven with the newly found aggressiveness(that's been paying off some from Hauntzer) is the only aggressive player on TSM, add in possibly a new player that will most likely be passive until a split or so to get their footing TSM will most likely be the new TL without Sven and/or D-lift without the EXP and aggressiveness.
D-Lift - Same thing goes for D-lift that I talked about Sven, he too can be rather "prickly" at times in his games a double -edge sword if you will; can make a number of bonehead mistakes at times, but Wilturtle will most likely never play for TSM again and he was on the TSM roster that actually made it to QT Finals ( First time ever) at Worlds, not to mention the other decent overall ADC players that are in the same ATM won't play on TSM for reasons that are obvious. Sneaky from C9 does better than TSM at every INT event so getting him won't happen and outside of the same 3 ADC players that have been atop of NA for 5-7 years(D-Lift/Sneaky and WIldturtle) every other known ADC player in NA sucks or just not on the same level as those three.
Arrow is good but I don't think he will actually do well on TSM in my opinion, he needs clear communication from his team(he's foreign) and a top that not only just splitpushes but draws so much pressure that he needs to get a decent amount of kills/towers and attention(Hauntzer is decent but not even top 10 best tops in the World).
TSM doesn't need to replace Sven or Lift but work TSM's comp around Bjergsen and camp him like the other INT teams do around the World, SKT's top/Jng and support tend to roam from around 5 mins into game to around 10 mins nonstop to get Faker ahead in almost EVERY game - TSM doesn't do that, instead they build team comp after team comp around D-Lift and Turtle in a supportive role for Bjergsen(for some reason give the best player a supportive champion to "support" the weaker players ?). Needs to end.
So no TSM doesn't need to have Sven or D-Lift retire since they've been playing for 6-7 years and will most likely have more knowledge than the newer players if replaced, will most likely retire at the end of this year, are better than most if not all of NA talent pool ATM, and production wise needs to be built around Bjergsen to play assassin champions for TSM to actually be good again( good again = finally beat their rivals C9 for the first time in a Best of 5 in the Finals, 4-2 in Groups at Worlds, and actually get past the groups to face the best team in the World at the time and to take a game off of them in a "tilt of the head" sign of respect for TSM having done so"
No player ever truly "retires", but merely becomes either a streamer and/or a challenger player.
I knew TSM would look bad but not this bad honestly, was thinking a 3rd place around 12-6 but looks like a 9-9 split.
Did Hauntzer feel like Tanks are bad or something ? He's constantly playing these fighter aggressive champions knowing Bjergsen won't do anything aggressive ever, D-Lift focuses on CS more than actual teamfighting( Look at him when he needs to be AA or using abilities on champions, instead he's more focused on CS, he's always been like that in LCS and in solo Q).
Biofrost looks like the Biofrost from Worlds were he's getting caught out and dying constantly Kiwikid style or the Wildturtle syndrome finally caught up to the young support.
Hauntzer - Play tanks
Svenskeren - Play either ground and bound tanks or huge dmg AP champions while playing safe in YOUR jungle for once.
Bjergsen - Stop playing supportive - tanky mids- Who are you trying to support for and get utility for- a returning D-lift who's looking to be missing a few steps or two ? "best western player/ Western Faker" and here you are always supporting the lesser players on TSM. Can he not carry anymore ?