What about a double voting system?

Madjack01·Dec 11, 2018·15 votes·10,467 views

One vote to express (dis)agreement and one vote to rate the quality of the thread. (Or quality as in that it inspires people to discuss something or for example a question which you want more people to see for more potential answers.).

Whatever thread appears on the 'hot' page would be linked to the votes on quality and maybe (just maybe) you could make those threads pop up under the recent tab as well if the got a quality upvote.

This way people could state their dislike for a certain opinion without undermining the potential for a decent discussion about a matter.

If (and that's a big if) correctly used, this would also lower the exposure that low quality ranting and threads for upvotefarming get. That's because while people might agree with those threads, they wouldn't get any quality upvotes which mean they will fade into oblivion once people stopped commenting (which can happen pretty fast in those threads)

Maybe this inspires people to up their game a bit and put more effort into their threads.

What do you think?

Edit: I realised that the “quality“ vote might be a bit loose and requires more fine tuning. Will keep thinking on the matter.

14 Comments

NullstarDec 11, 201811 votes

I'd give you an agreement here but an upvote is all I got. [sg-ahri-2]

Madjack01Dec 11, 20185 votes

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I'd give you an agreement here but an upvote is all I got. [sg-ahri-2]

I see what you did there.

And Iike it

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Pika FoxDec 11, 20183 votes

Likely adding complexity for no gain. People would likely just double downvote.

dnsupDec 11, 20185 votes

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Likely adding complexity for no gain. People would likely just double downvote.

"Double-downvoting" probably wouldn't happen as often as you expect. Other (non-Riot) examples suggest a multiple-independent rating system would probably result in some [significant] gain (of information).

It's a different question to what extent that information can (and would) even be understood (i.e., by simply glancing at the two scores for a collection of unrelated posts, or some more complicated method) by players visiting the forums, and by Riot (if Riot even bothers with it, which I don't really believe they do yet).

MadmacxDec 12, 20184 votes

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Likely adding complexity for no gain. People would likely just double downvote.

If you think like that then we might as well abandon voting completely because the current voting system isnt properly used either.

I for one would keep the two votes separate.

ModThe DjinnDec 12, 20183 votes

I've actually asked about similar things in the past. Unfortunately, we don't have the ability to add functionality of this scope at this point in time.

Madjack01Dec 12, 20182 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=MF5s5ooc,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-12-12T03:30:10.931+0000)

I've actually asked about similar things in the past. Unfortunately, we don't have the ability to add functionality of this scope at this point in time.

That's a shame. I knew that it wouldn't be easy from a technical viewpoint, but I had hoped that it would be at least possible to program extra functionality like this given enough time.

Maybe for the boards 2.0. ;P

KFCeytronDec 12, 20182 votes

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I've actually asked about similar things in the past. Unfortunately, we don't have the ability to add functionality of this scope at this point in time.

Before I clicked this thread, I thought to myself, "pinned reply saying "the technology isn't there"."

ModThe DjinnDec 12, 20182 votes

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Before I clicked this thread, I thought to myself, "pinned reply saying "the technology isn't there"."

Yep. It's not an uncommon answer, because ultimately we are limited by what is feasible to do on the platform the boards are supported by.

KFCeytronDec 12, 20181 votes

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Yep. It's not an uncommon answer, because ultimately we are limited by what is feasible to do on the platform the boards are supported by.

Exactly, and I don't blame you. You only have the ability to use the tools and systems that are available to you, not to create new ones. Boards have to rely on behavioral solutions, not technological ones.

On this particular topic, even Stack Overflow, an actively-developed site with very specific voting guidelines, has trouble with this sort of thing. Maybe a better comparison to this thread's suggestion would be something like Yelp or Facebook, where you can mark a variety of reactions to a post or review.

Velzard of KozDec 12, 20182 votes

And also it would barely work. The flaw of upvote/downvote is that some people use it too benevolently. If two voting systems were implemented, those people who insta-downvote or cirlejerk-upvote things would just press two buttons instead of one and that's about the only change.

Madjack01Dec 12, 20181 votes

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And also it would barely work. The flaw of upvote/downvote is that some people use it too benevolently. If two voting systems were implemented, those people who insta-downvote or cirlejerk-upvote things would just press two buttons instead of one and that's about the only change.

That's disregarding one of the reasons people are not voting properly. A single vote system lacks in what people want to express, hence it's used wildly and for many different reasons.

You might think commenting would be a feasible alternative, but if you find my idea not very realistic than you can throw that out of the window as well for sure.