[GAMEPLAY] Shaco Box vs Sweepers

Troll for Trump·12/31/2016, 12:51:46 AM·1 votes·1,503 views

Shaco can place Jack-in-the-boxes after a sweeper is used, and they won't be disabled by the sweeper. Since sweepers are one of the few ways of counterplay vs shaco and his boxes, it's almost game-breaking.

To reproduce:

Go into a game with any champ with the lvl 9 Trinket upgrade for sweepers and a Shaco on the opposing team
Use the lvl 9 sweeper. Note that it disables Shaco's boxes that were already placed before the sweeper was activated
Have Shaco place a box in sweeper range after the initial cast
Get Sp00ked

3 Comments

NoobLearninGame12/31/2016, 4:59:25 AM1 votes

Personally I think that's a good thing as someone who plays Shaco, gives him some counterplay against the sweeper. It's not like he's going to place down 5 boxes immediately after you sweep, he gets 1 box, and only later in the game with sufficient cooldown reduction will he be able to place 2 boxes within about the time it takes for your Oracle Alteration to run out.

Doesn't sound overpowered in the slightest to me. If he needs nerfs, that's not the place to start.

NoobLearninGame1/1/2017, 12:05:15 AM1 votes

Honestly I play Jg Shaco so I can't speak to that balance (Top lane Shaco), but once they fix his damage numbers or whatever's sent him over the edge in winrate, I'm pretty sure he'll need those 1 or 2 boxes. Have you ever tried to play Shaco and beat a carry champion like Riven? Without the boxes I don't know if it's possible to outplay/win in a duel (assuming she's aware of your presence and you're both at full health, & Shaco at full mana, both with CD timers ready on all skills, level 18, equally fed).

As Jg, fighting a Lee Sin, Nocturne, Diana or something 1 on 1 with full health is also probably not likely to go your way without a box or two during the course of your duel. His kit relies on the boxes kinda heavily. I'm okay with you clearing a minefield of boxes, but Shaco deserves 1 box, or 2 over the course of 10 seconds (the time Oracle lasts) if you have CDR maxed out. At least that's my feelings on it from personal experience.