[Gameplay] Outleveling bug.

GenghisEmo··1 votes·751 views

I was playing Vi jungle, i clear 3 camps: Gromp, Blue, and Scuttle. Then i find a Xin Zhao in his jungle that cleared two camps: Krugs and Red. He gets to Level 3 while i was still level 2. We had same cs, at the time of fighting. How did i get out leveled? This has never happened before, usually by this point i get first blood, or force a flash, Literally did nothing different before the patch hit, and i won a fight as Vi versus a Xin Zhao in Patch 5.21 while both of us were level 2. How did this Xin Zhao get Level 3 at only two camps?

I have done the same camps of Krugs and then Red as Vi, and have never gotten to Level 3.

There was even a time i used Volibear, i went into enemy jungle at level 2, steal their cs, and find that a Yi with half my cs was still out-leveling me, when they only made one single appearance in lane for a possible gank (camped a bush for a bit, then retreats). I took his farm in red side, his red buff, but he still out leveled me at half my cs?

Before Patch 5.22 this has never happened before. Only now have i been noticing enemy junglers out level me for no real reason it seems.

This is getting weird fast. Has anyone else been having this issue?

6 Comments

Akenero1 votes

Huh, what sides of the map were you on? Did he kill scuttle? And did they use exp quints or the new masteries?

GenghisEmo1 votes

I was on Blue side. I killed scuttle, gromp, and Blue. He only killed red and krugs. I came through the raptors side, and saw they were still there XD. I even had more hp than Xin! Still got out leveled and died.

SympleSynz1 votes

Only thing I can think of was that he was near lane long enough to pick up exp from lane (if he wasn't running exp runes)

GenghisEmo1 votes

maybe... but i warded his Krugs, he went straight for them. But the area of receiving xp would be closer to river in top side. Otherwise, makes no sense. And runes i checked, were pretty standard for AD Xin.

SympleSynz1 votes

I know as vi, with a solid leash, 3 camps will give you level 3. I usually go Gromp, Blue, Red or Gromp, Blue, Wolves on purple side, Krugs, Red, Blue, or Krugs, Red, Chickens and I've always gotten level 3 after the 3rd camp. Even with this new patch.

GenghisEmo1 votes

Yeah i know. I am not complaining about that. I am complaining about being out leveled by a champ that only killed two camps, i killed 3 camps (scuttle wont get me to Lv 3 i know), but a Xin Zhao that only cleared two camps still out leveled me. I was supposed to kill him at level 2, since he had less hp than me (but due to a leveling bug, he out leveled me after only clearing 2 camps, which makes no sense ^_^).

Before the latest patch, that Xin would have been dead. I have done it several times to shutdown early game junglers (works well as Volibear, Vi, Trundle, against Yi, Xin, Elise, and the like). Only time this tactic fails is against Lee Sin. Yet with this patch, i am being out leved by others who have half my cs, same cs (by Yi and Xin it seems this far). Thus far this happened while i played as Vi (vs the Xin), and Volibear (vs a Yi). All while the previous patch and season, i would always come out on top by this point (and only way to lose lead was for allies to feed through not warding).

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