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Thats not a "tank" item

old man loler··12 votes·1,638 views

I might come across as a noob here, but i have just found out how to make things like item 3087 or item 3172 a tank item. It's simple enough. Just equip them to XinZhao. his war cry passive making him heal every 3rd attack, the statikk shiv making that third attack come a lot sooner. item 3087 = health regen = tank. Haven't tried it pvp yet. But i have just had 3 bot games rushing the item 3087 and it seems to work really well.

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S H A Y C 026 votes

you're absolutely adorable!

Only Play Darius12 votes

And then they CC you and it stops you from autoattacking for a split second, then you get 100-0 bursted to death in the blink of an eye.

If what you said was accurate, lifesteal MasterYi would be god tier.

Fredart1 votes

Fiora bounces around more and is harder to click than MasterYi

aaronconlin1 votes

Tank/Bruiser Yi with item 3065 using his W in a team fight is fucked up

Only Play Darius1 votes

Good thing there's a knockup in every kit now.

IcyPepper3 votes

wouldn't item 3046 be a better choice?

old man loler2 votes

i did think that, but the statikk charge wins it for me, even if most of the time all it really does is look cool XDD

Peel Your ADC3 votes

How bout we ditch the zeal path altogether?

Bork, Yomuus and defensive items seems to be all Xin needs to be relevant.

junglerboy163 votes

It's a completely legitimate strategy known as "drain-tanking" It is basically when a fighter gains their durability from lifestealing/proccing passive on hit healing through rapid attacks. Usually, drain tanks are relatively squishy stat wise, but have high DPS and rely on in fight self healing to stay alive far longer than a normal fighter would. This also applies to mages who rely heavily on spell vamp to become deceptively durable

Aatrox Akali Fiddlesticks Irelia Nasus Olaf Ryze Swain Trundle Vladimir Warwick and XinZhao are all commonly considered drain tanks, some more prominently than others (Aatrox Nasus Olaf Trundle Vladimir Warwick) but they can all do it quite well.

A fed ADC also can attain a level of drain tanking through their massive damage output and a lifesteal item, but they generally are less memorable in that role since they don't act as the frontline like most of the drain tanks I listed.

AFK Push1 votes

akali's isn't really within a dps category whatsoever, her spell vamp is just a luxury stat to help out her poor early laning before 6 and that's about it.

junglerboy161 votes

She still functions in the same manner, gaining deceptive durability from her massive innate sustain (which in combination with item 3146 is very substantial).

Late game her Vamp and lifesteal from Gunblade are the reasons she cleans up fights so well; unless she gets dog-piled by the enemy team, she can use her vamp to treat the whole fight like several consecutive duels.

AFK Push1 votes

Yeah, but that is more on par with and ADC with a ton of crit and a item 3072 for burst heals. Which is why the term "drain tanking" shouldn't be applied to someone like akali. I'm not disagreeing with you about the fact that she has sustain and it makes her a little more durable, but it isn't along the same terms of a Aatrox Vladimir etc

Peel Your ADC2 votes

item 3726 item 3142

Either or.

Especially since they let you do what you need to do (be a threat early) and not be a regret later.

old man loler1 votes

I do like the look of that devourer, especially as I hope to jung. May well have to give that a go

Crett1 votes

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I do like the look of that devourer, especially as I hope to jung. May well have to give that a go

Shyvana jungle with devourer and full tank build is insane

old man loler1 votes
Swollwonder2 votes

In my mind their are two kinds of tanks sustain tanks and tanks. The only difference is you kill one if you cc them. I'll let you guess which one.

old man loler2 votes

I havent got all of the kinks worked out yet, but im thinking the build will look something like this item 3087 item 3072 item 3143 item 3065 item 3071 the other item most likely being either item 3047 or item 3111

GaleWinUnleashed2 votes

Throw a item 3153 in there somewhere for additional attack speed and life steal.

old man loler1 votes

tbh now that i have played it im not entirely sure the build needs item 3072 or item 3153 as the massive atk speed boost with what i have here seemed to provide more than enough sustain to get me out of most situations, just maybe a bit more tank XDD http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/2070394307/204319369?tab=overview maybe items like this item 3157 item 3025

AFK Push2 votes

blood thirster is naturally worse on xin, item 3153 is amazing because of the % current hp thrown on top of your q damage.

Wheatloaf2 votes

If you wanna heal tank as Xin, build AP. You can solo towers once you get enough of that shit.

Godhri1 votes

You can't really call it a tank item even in that respect... the term "tank" refers to the ability to receive damage. To enhance this ability, you must increase the maximum capacity for something to receive damage. In this case, you are merely increasing it's self sustaining capabilities which are different from tank.

junglerboy161 votes

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You can't really call it a tank item even in that respect... the term "tank" refers to the ability to receive damage. To enhance this ability, you must increase the maximum capacity for something to receive damage. In this case, you are merely increasing it's self sustaining capabilities which are different from tank.

Please enlighten us on how you think soaking damage through lifesteal has any effective difference between soaking damage through flat health. The only difference I see is one is immune to enemy burst, and the other is immune to enemy DPS. Both methods substantially increase durability, just in different manners, so the are both certainly "tank" items in that sense.

Space Bum1 votes

Because it's easier to counter with summoner 3 summoner 14 or just hard CC. Any of those wrecks an aa based lifesteal strategy. Having a large health pool with tanky stats is better.

Godhri1 votes

I'm not entirely sure why I have to say this but ok. The very core definition of being a tank is having a greater capacity to take damage than others. Strictly speaking then, you can only call something a tank item if it enhances the maximum capacity of the user to take damage in comparison to others.

If we go by your logic, any damage item would also be considered a "tank" item. By dealing damage and killing your opponent faster, you reduce the potential amount of damage you have to take thus increasing your "durability". In a similar respect, life steal or self healing increases the potential amount of damage needed to take you down.

LegendaryLemur1 votes

sustain isn't the same as tank. If you are chain cc'd and focused, tank items/abilities allow you to survive when you can't be proccing lifesteal.

IcyPepper1 votes

I think he's thinking bruiser.

A tank wants to have cooldowns and cc wasted on him, and bruisers want that to a less extent but like to use their sustain/shield tools to survive longer while dealing damage.

My Desired Name1 votes

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A tank wants to have cooldowns and cc wasted on him, and bruisers want that to a less extent but like to use their sustain/shield tools to survive longer while dealing damage.

Tanks are not supposed to take damage for no reason.

IcyPepper1 votes

Did I say no reason? I'm talking about teamfights where the tank wants to get focused and cc'd, so his team is safer and can retaliate while a number of the opposition's spells are on cooldown.

I obviously didn't mean all the time. I was just referring to tanks being damage sponges compared to bruisers who are more about dueling and taking some of the damage as opposed to as much as they can.

Now, where did I say that tanks want to take damage for no reason? When I say cooldowns and cc wasted, obviously it's wasted because it could have been used on a priority target instead, which a tank does not want.

Renaille4 votes

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sustain isn't the same as tank. If you are chain cc'd and focused, tank items/abilities allow you to survive when you can't be proccing lifesteal.

A sustain tank is still a tank.

SEKAI1 votes

That might be a good tip to sustain skirmishes or trades, but once we are talking about teamfights then it's different.

Since in TF, to tank you really need some high raw resistance stats to survive, and as you will get cc'ed your arse off, tanking purely through attack speed bonuses really isn't all that ideal.

But if you already have some major tank builds, with those as side kicks, I think it's quite cool that way.

old man loler1 votes

I havent got all of the kinks worked out yet, but im thinking the build will look something like this item 3087 item 3072 item 3143 item 3065 item 3071 the other item most likely being either item 3047 or item 3111

SEKAI4 votes

If you're looking to run Zephyr, you can use tobi instead of merc, since tenacity in items don't stack.

So if you're running early cool then go tobi and probably replace BT or shiv with Zephyr, otherwise stick with this build with merc isn't bad too.

If you're doing too good, run tri-force instead, Xin with that kills everything that moves writhin 2 swings

old man loler1 votes
JFRANKSTA1 votes

Katarina Varus MissFortune item 3165 summoner 14 every form of hard cc and every champ that can 100-0 counters that, so no

Aych Pii1 votes

Did you know AP makes the healing on War Cry scale? You might want to give item 3115 Xin Zhao a try. :)

Giovarco1 votes

This is why AP + Attack Speed Xin Zhao is OP.

Mecha MaIphite1 votes

Jax presses R

Everything is a tank item now. item 3124 item 3089 item 3072 item 3146

AFK Push1 votes

heal/sustain is actually not really associated with tanks. A tank is someone who soaks up the damage for the team. Also, by doing this on xin instead of an actual tank item like item 3143, you will notably be squishier. Think about this for example, if you keep getting cced and poked from a range then when does the sustain matter if you can't even get close enough to hit anyone.

Raja Chachki1 votes

yes well.....let's just say ANYTHING works against bots. 1. they don't teamfight. 2. they don't fight back a lot of the time. So you can't really gauge how well it works unless you take it into PvP(where it will work if you play against other noobs, and you will because you're lvl 12).

Drunk Rummate1 votes

by that logic item 3152 is a tank item... but it's not really.

aaronconlin1 votes

item 3718 item 3065 item 3143 item 3172 item 3078 item 3071

MasterVidallis1 votes

Nice trolling.

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