I need some tips on how to lane against a Yorick. Every other source I've gone to only mentions I can sustain off his minions, but that's about it. The laning phase is super rough due to the amount of harass he can do. I can barely farm anything. He didn't really get kills, we traded off really, but his cs was 20-30 higher than mine cause I could barely survive his harassment.
BastionKross2 votesThe vast majority of champions don't lane against a Yorick. They survive lane against a Yorick.
Don't die. Even if it means backing and losing 10 cs or so. Yorick's laning is the best part about him. If you don't feed him and manage to scrounge up at least respectable cs numbers, you'll be infinitely more useful than he will come mid and late game and it's teamfights.
thePandev1 votesIf you last hit his ghouls you get extra HP and Mana IIRC
Whisla1 votesThat doesnt win fights or even trades. infact you probably miss out on larger creep CS making it a 15g loss.
Whisla1 votesConstant burst. Im a big yorick main, i have trouble with alot of 
some 
. Thing is after level 3 hes pretty big if left to get any farm. If you dont burst him its likely youll lose. 
is NOT good against yorick, i repeat NOT good. Any half way decent yorick will just get MR and boots early dodge your Q and win all day long. Only thing cho really has is the bite for when yorick is low but if yorick gets ahead at all it will be miserable for cho.
Skize1 votesYeah it seems like the only thing you can do is try to outfarm him. Good thing it was only normals though. Better to learn now than mess up big time in ranked.
Melondrama1 votesI'm really confused right now because Cho'gath is actually Yorick's worst match up. Cho out sustains him early and that silence makes his harass non existent. Yorick has no escapes or mobility and is super vulnerable to cc so Cho's slow is extremely brutal. You can heal off of his ghouls and since Yorick is better of in prolonged duels where he can outsustain with omine of famine, Cho's burst is perfect for demolishing Yorick. Vorpal spikes makes it impossible for yorick to push against Cho'gath without going oom. The only other champions that give yorick almost as much trouble as cho'gath is Nunu and Trundle. The main thing though is that Cho'gath can't let himself get pushed in by Yorick, he has to get early control of the lane, and he can't afford to miss any ruptures or silences. If Cho'gath does everything right Yorick loses hard.
Skize1 votesIt's cause while Yorick can push hard and go oom, he actually has a lot more sustain than Cho does. He pretty much forces Cho to become a Nasus under the turret unless your jungler helps you out a lot. His ghouls also give only 5 gold so trying to last hit that over minions is not worth it. Also, his Omen of Famine steals hp and summons a ghoul that heals him each time it attacks. So if he gets off multiple ghouls, no matter how good Cho's passive may be, Yorick will outdamage and outsustain him. I've been looking around, reading old threads, etc. It seems like the only reason people say it's an "easy" lane is cause Cho can eventually survive to the point where they can't kill each other. Before that though, in the early levels Yorick can easily kill Cho. After level 3 or so, Yorick has almost the complete advantage if he has more farm.
Thing is, I actually did ok, didn't miss a single rupture or silence during laning phase. A rupture/silence is very costly in terms of mana compared to Yorick. All he did was heal back up and just outfarm me to the point where he just took off even after we both went 2/2/0. After a certain level, I just couldn't touch him while he had the kill potential over me.
Melondrama1 votesIt's cause while Yorick can push hard and go oom, he actually has a lot more sustain than Cho does. He pretty much forces Cho to become a Nasus under the turret unless your jungler helps you out a lot. His ghouls also give only 5 gold so trying to last hit that over minions is not worth it. Also, his Omen of Famine steals hp and summons a ghoul that heals him each time it attacks. So if he gets off multiple ghouls, no matter how good Cho's passive may be, Yorick will outdamage and outsustain him. I've been looking around, reading old threads, etc. It seems like the only reason people say it's an "easy" lane is cause Cho can eventually survive to the point where they can't kill each other. Before that though, in the early levels Yorick can easily kill Cho. After level 3 or so, Yorick has almost the complete advantage if he has more farm.
Thing is, I actually did ok, didn't miss a single rupture or silence during laning phase. A rupture/silence is very costly in terms of mana compared to Yorick. All he did was heal back up and just outfarm me to the point where he just took off even after we both went 2/2/0. After a certain level, I just couldn't touch him while he had the kill potential over me.
I've never had an easy time against Cho'Gath as Yorick. His silence outranges all of Yorick's spells which removes a large portion of Yorick's damage and instantly wins Cho the trade before it starts. All you have to do is silence him as soon as he walks near you since all of his harass is super telegraphed. Silence=no gouls, no ghouls= no passive, no passive= no 15% bonus damage and no 15% damage reduction. Cho is also naturally tankier than Yorick so Yorick needs his passive to be up every trade especially before he gets tear. If you rush MR it will delay tear and if you rush tear Cho'gath will booty burst you. Cho'gath has nope written all over him.
I'm just going off of my own personal experience with playing that match up a fuck ton of times, but looking at these stats Yorick loses vs Cho'gath 58% percent of the time which isn't too bad, but it still is slightly in Cho's favour. The only advice I can give is play the match up more and just get used to playing against yorick and get a feel for how the matchup works and how to play around his kit. http://www.counterstats.net/league-of-legends/chogath/vs-yorick/top
Skize1 votesI've never had an easy time against Cho'Gath as Yorick. His silence outranges all of Yorick's spells which removes a large portion of Yorick's damage and instantly wins Cho the trade before it starts. All you have to do is silence him as soon as he walks near you since all of his harass is super telegraphed. Silence=no gouls, no ghouls= no passive, no passive= no 15% bonus damage and no 15% damage reduction. Cho is also naturally tankier than Yorick so Yorick needs his passive to be up every trade especially before he gets tear. If you rush MR it will delay tear and if you rush tear Cho'gath will booty burst you. Cho'gath has nope written all over him
You're literally the only one saying this. If anything, I'm eager to to know if you have a video or something to show how to play against Yorick. Also, does that mean I put a point in W first then? Cause honestly, Yorick had no problem out trading me early on as well.
Melondrama1 votesYou're literally the only one saying this. If anything, I'm eager to to know if you have a video or something to show how to play against Yorick. Also, does that mean I put a point in W first then? Cause honestly, Yorick had no problem out trading me early on as well.
I'm not the only one saying this. If you just google Cho'gath vs Yorick or Yorick counters you'll find that the overwhelming majority of people agree that Yorick has trouble in this matchup, but I'm not here to impose an appeal to popularity fallacy. I'm speaking from my own experience. This video might help you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=To5nwl04WHc If possible just let Yorick push and ask for a gank ASAP (before yorick hits 6). Yorick is immobile and very vulnerable to ganks, an over extended yorick is pretty much a free kill if your jungler ganks. The reason I say before Yorick hits 6 is because sometimes ganking a lvl 6 yorick just ends in yorick getting a double kill.
If it makes you feel better, Yorick falls off late game and he's getting a Sion tier relaunch so that his early game isn't so cancerous
Sohleks1 votesAs Cho I would just max E for constant free aoe damage. In this situation it's better than the steady burst/poke from W; it's not gated by a cooldown. You can probably outpush Yorick this way, and recall when you need after the lane is cleared.
I tend to like E max versus melee champs. But W max is generally more popular for good reasons, as it lets you burst and silence for longer. Versus squishier mages or assassins without sustain (cho mid is really good) W max can be really great
Rakka Kaze1 votesVs Yorick
Max E, be safe, get Q/W, max W next. You can start fighting at 6, he'll hurt, but after 1-2 wins in lane, you just become a hyperbully, more so than before. If the enemy jungle doesn't gank then the lane is over. (I went for a rabadon then pure tank afterwards and just laughed at yorick) If you push too hard and he freezes, if you're post6 just roam down river or to gromp/rock things and eat them for stacks while you wait for lane to thaw.
Gym Leader Yaki1 votesI need some tips on how to lane against a Yorick. Every other source I've gone to only mentions I can sustain off his minions, but that's about it. The laning phase is super rough due to the amount of harass he can do. I can barely farm anything. He didn't really get kills, we traded off really, but his cs was 20-30 higher than mine cause I could barely survive his harassment.
Dude o.o When I use to main Yorick in ranked during season 3, Cho'Gath and Nasus were my biggest problems. Yorick is caster type, so using silence is really effective against him. To be honest, you might not be playing the right way when facing him. Just letting you know, Yorick is EXTREMELY weak early. It might not seem like it but trust me. As Cho gath you have everything to be able to pressure him out. Just attack him and max W first. Getting ROA should give you enough W spam to zone him out.
You can also out-sustain him. Also, getting ignite on cho and doing the ult + ignite can make you deal a total of 500/800/1100-1200 true damage based on lv 6/11/16-18. Early game, Yorick will be building a tear/iceborn because he has intensive mana problems, that means squishy! And squishy targets areamazing with cho'gath's total destructive true damage.
EDIT: If some comments are telling you to play safe when facing a Yorick as a Cho'Gath is because they've never played the lane and don't know what they're talking about. I've played it dozens of times in ranked. I don't want to be disrespectful, but please ignore those comments. I don't think they know what they're talking about.
azrolator1 votesI will admit, I haven't played cho. But I play Yorick some and cho is a problem. I normally love the AP matchups if I am laning because I can build damage right away(after tear) and still get resists with maw/mercurial. But Cho has longer range than yorick. Yorick comes in, and gets silenced before he can get minion off. Cho throws down his knockup and walks away after taking no damage and winning this trade. Yorick is slow, is melee, and if he can't get in range for ghouls without being silenced then he has little chance of walking up to you and hitting you when you have cc. Cho has more burst damage than yorick at least by level 6. before long yorick will have no hps from either building mana or damage, but be able to do almost nothing to cho. cho's aoe can killl off yoricks ult. All I can think of for yorick to do in this matchup would be to hit q and flash in and stick with you while he waits for silences to run out. I wouldn't really want to all in against cho early game. I am guessing your problem here is what other laners have against yorick, yorick's advantage is that people don't see him enough to learn how he works well enough. Since it is the biggest advantage I have when playing him, I won't point out the more general mistakes people make playing against him.