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How do I fix bad MMR?

Melondrama··1 votes·670 views

For context, I've been in silver 2 for over a month and up until recently I had been gaining 20-25 lp per win and only losing a consistent 15 per loss with most of my games ranging from silver 1- gold 4. Recently, I duo'd with a friend in silver 4 and we lost a bunch of games. Now I'm in a weird spot where I still lose 15 per loss but I only gain 16-17lp per win. What could've possibly messed up my lp and how do I fix it? I've kept a consistent 54-55% win rate in silver 2 and I want to move up, but the past few wins have been discouraging. When I duo'd with my other friend in silver 3 he got the same weird lp changes too.

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Kãtãrinã1 votes

you just have to keep playing and it will even out sooner or later

Melondrama1 votes

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you just have to keep playing and it will even out sooner or later

should i soloqueue? I've duo'd with my silver 3 friend for most of silver and had no problems until recently. I thought low MMR would end up giving me 15 per win and -20 per loss or something like that. gaining 16 per win and losing 15 per loss is really weird and has never happened to me before. It's like there's lp missing from somewhere.

Kãtãrinã1 votes

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should i soloqueue? I've duo'd with my silver 3 friend for most of silver and had no problems until recently. I thought low MMR would end up giving me 15 per win and -20 per loss or something like that. gaining 16 per win and losing 15 per loss is really weird and has never happened to me before. It's like there's lp missing from somewhere.

solo would probs bring it back to normal mmr

Angry Monster1 votes

you lost games that were beneath you. So the system has decided that you are that good anymore. If your losses and win produce the same MMR your now where the system thinks you should be

When you were getting more for winning than losing the system thought that you could climb.

Angry Monster1 votes

what could've possibly messed up my lp and how do I fix it?

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I duo'd with a friend in silver 4 and we lost a bunch of games

Man that was hard

Win more than you lose and your mmr will rise.

Melondrama1 votes

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Man that was hard

Win more than you lose and your mmr will rise.

my win rate still never dropped below 54% and i just went on a win streak. that's why i'm confused. normally i would be 1 win away from promos right now but if my gains stay where they are now, i'll probably have to win 2

Angry Monster1 votes

That is not how it works, here is a math example of the system. all numbers and math are examples

pretend your normal average is 1. This is your average overall through streaks be they win or losses.

Most of your games are rated .9 to 1.1. You win some your lose some. moving you around but you are still pretty much 1 +- 0.1.

Now you loss a bunch of games but they were rated .7. instead of moving you a little down a little you moved down a lot for every loss. So now your average win rate no longer means anything cause the losses were weighted in a way where you were expected to win. you moved from 1 to .8 or lower

It will take at a lot of games to correct the loss streak where the system though you should win. Not all games are worth the same thing so they and effect your MMR in different ways.

Melondrama1 votes

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That is not how it works, here is a math example of the system. all numbers and math are examples

pretend your normal average is 1. This is your average overall through streaks be they win or losses.

Most of your games are rated .9 to 1.1. You win some your lose some. moving you around but you are still pretty much 1 +- 0.1.

Now you loss a bunch of games but they were rated .7. instead of moving you a little down a little you moved down a lot for every loss. So now your average win rate no longer means anything cause the losses were weighted in a way where you were expected to win. you moved from 1 to .8 or lower

It will take at a lot of games to correct the loss streak where the system though you should win. Not all games are worth the same thing so they and effect your MMR in different ways.

If only mmr wasn't invisible. It was only 4 games, hopefully it wont take that long

Angry Monster1 votes

it depends on on what your friends mmr was. He in theory could have b1 mmr and still have points and you can have g5 when it happened. In that instance it would of shifted you hard.

I was only explaining the system.

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