how to get out of bronze, i just can't, pls help me.

oO Oo Gin oO Oo·May 27, 2015·2 votes·1,947 views

I was 36 wins 32 losses as ranked. and now i m 42 wins and 50 losses. I tried 4 times to get in series for silver 5 and now i m demoted to b 2. The trolls, and afk, feeding are just too hard. i had ap cait bot and i m the support, but she decided go ap adc is more better. and had jax support, never helped in battle never buy wards. then those feeding lanes. I was on a losing streak for losing 6 games in a row and another losing streak for 7 losses in a row. Then i took a break for 5 days, and then today, we were winning, then yeah the top garen went afk, lol we lost. I always had better score for me and i tried to carry my team but it is toooooo hard. feeding 10 times in the first 10 min duo bot, and those 3 lanes feeding when i jung. How do you really get out of bronze? Bc no matter how hard i try i just don't have the luck to win. And yeah another ranked i played that i won the game, but the game sever went on service, so i didn't actually win that game. This is so unfair, my enemy always get fed and they are always the strong people. I really don't know what to do. PLS help. SOS. I read so much and watched so much on how to get out of bronze but i just can't. I really don't understand, we are all the same bronze 1 Q in fight, but it is always like the enemies are silver 1 and my team is like bronze 6. Play from bronze 5 to bronze 1 then at least you can learn how to not feed so much in the first 10 min and why can't they get their cs up instead of feeding to the other adc???????????????????????????????????????? PLS HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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OhBoyItsaMegamanMay 27, 20154 votes

I want you to go to your op.gg page and look at something. Look at your last 20 ranked games played. These are the champions you played as:

Ahri Nidalee Quinn MasterYi Riven Blitzcrank Riven Nasus Caitlyn Lux Chogath Ahri Graves LeeSin DrMundo RekSai Braum

Sixteen champions across 20 games. Do you feel like you're equally skilled at all of these champions? Do you feel that in each game where you chose a champion you lack experience on, the appropriateness of that character (in your team's comp, or vs. your lane opponent) outweighed that lack of experience?

Let's take your most recent game as an example. You played as Ahri vs. Katarina. Two of your last games, you were Ahri. What if all 20 were Ahri? If you had just come off of 19 games in a row as Ahri, don't you think you would be better prepared for game #20? Don't you think you would have gotten more cs than you did, died less than you did, hit more skillshots than you did, etc.?

The Katarina in that game was quite bad. Like you, she has played many different champions in ranked recently; she's certainly no Katarina main. She was using a rune page that wasn't anywhere near complete, and her 22/4/4 mastery page has 3 points in mana regen. She never upgraded her trinket and never bought any wards for Shunpo. If you don't belong in Bronze, you should be able to annihilate someone like this. Instead, you died to her when you left lane to head to dragon. You died to her again a minute later as soon as you returned to lane. And you died to her again another minute later as soon as you returned to lane. Those 3 kills in a row allowed her to recall and finish her Luden's and pick up an Armguard.

If you mained Ahri and played no one else, I'm sure you would know how to beat a Kat. I'm sure you would be able to very confidently poke her down during the laning phase. I'm sure you would know to hold your Charm to interrupt her ult and then blow her away. I'm sure you would not rush a Lichbane as your first item. But because you play 2 different mids and 3 different ADCs and 7 different junglers, you don't have the mastery that you need in order to do well. You were up against a Katarina who does not deserve to get out of Bronze, and you failed your lane against her quite hard. She took the gold that she got from laning against you and snowballed into a monster.

I'm sure you want to reiterate "Our Garen went AFK! It was a 4v5!" But that doesn't matter. He was apparently in the game up until at least 27:00, and you had already thoroughly lost your lane by then. Regardless of the fact that he eventually quit, you still have to accept that your performance in that game wasn't worthy of Silver. Look at all the things I pointed out for you. What do you gain from ignoring those things and focusing on what a teammate did? Will that make you better at the game? Will it make you win more? Looking at your mistakes will make you better. Taking responsibility for games where you did terrible will make you win more.

oO Oo Gin oO OoMay 28, 20151 votes

that one i didnt try hard enough as ahri, i had 350 ping and garen went afk so. I don't focus on what my teammates did bad in games, i am just complaining about my games, if you see my games then you know, out of these games, i always get feeders, afks, and troll picks, ap adc, jax support, and the 1st time ashe, you know that ashe, she went into battle from the enemy side, and all she did was W then she died, I just don't know what else to do except keep playing and playing. And yes i don't main them, I play all the champions, but I never get 0 10 0 in the 1st 10 min and i do my cs, That ahri i had 350 ping from the beginning to the end. And you can see garen left game at 27:00 we kept playing to 47:00, we kept playing, but its just not enough, Yes i lost my lane bc i went help bot and there jungler came and there whole team went for the second. And then all the other fights is 4 vs 5, we don't have enough tank, how can i do anything good out of that? I tried my other games too, i jung and put my team 3 0 in the beginning, then there they started feeding. I was lux in mid, i won my lane and i got feed, but top keep feeding zed, and then jungler went feed zed, yeah he is fed, then we are finished. They rather spend time, watching zed farming then go to base to heal, or turret hug,

OhBoyItsaMegamanMay 28, 20152 votes

if you see my games then you know, out of these games, i always get feeders, afks, and troll picks

Sooo, how about that Riven game today where a 16/6/8 adc and 11/2/20 jungler carried you while you went 1/5/22?

How about that Vayne game where your mid TF had almost 100% kill participation and crushed all 3 lanes?

How about that Lux game just now where you had more deaths than anyone else on your team, barely broke 100 cs at the end of the game, but your Darius was 21/4/7?

You know perfectly well that you do not always get feeders, afks, and troll picks. You sometimes get these kinds of players. And the other team sometimes gets these kinds of players. But your team always gets you. So that's the only thing you have to worry about. Your own performance.

You have to get really critical of yourself in order to start doing better. Right now you just do not have that mindset.

mvargusMay 28, 20152 votes

Wow, I have to say you gave good advice and analysis and its clear you are looking at the right items.

And I can back you up. I've seen a number of people complain that they can't get out of bronze and just about every time when I look at their champ selection I find that they play different champions constantly and often do poorly when they play.

To the original poster.

First, forget all about "feeders, trolls and AFKs" (oh my!)

They don't cost you games. Or at least they cost you far less than you think.

I can think of 2 games that are great examples of this. One was one of my prelim games for ranked play. Right at the start my teams top laner DC'd leaving us in a 4v5. I rotated from jungle to cover the top lane and we fought hard for the first 15-17 minutes until the top laner managed to get the client to allow him back in. We went on to win the game. The second was a normal game. The other team lost 2 players, so it became a 3v5. Believe it or not those 3 players managed to win the game. They didn't give up and managed to find some amazing synergy in their team comp. Yes, it was embarrassing to be on the side that lost, but I learned more than you might expect.

I also peeked at your results in ranked games. And I decided to look at your last few losses.

The most recent on Lux, its hard to see what you did wrong based on the stats. I'm not sure you can blame just the Singed. The enemy ADC had a very solid lead in farm and the enemy jungler has 18 assists. It looks like your team lost a pressure game and you couldn't carry hard enough fast enough. That happens.

The game before you were jungle Udyr and went 5/8/8. However the other jungler not only had time to outfarm you, but went 8/8/19. As a jungler you need to counter gank or counter jungle to prevent multiple lanes from snowballing due to the enemy jungler.

The one before htat you played Ahri into Kat. You claim you did "enough" but you barely beat Kat in farm, and she was getting lots of kills so she was roaming hard. Also it appears your Garen was having trouble with Cho'gath, did you roam top to help or did you leave him on an island to slowly get frustrated?

Before that you were jungle Nidalee and went 4/8/8. The key appears to have been top lane where your Tryndamere got wrecked by Darius. How much did you help there? Were you ganking often enough to give Tryn space to farm. Based on Darius getting 7.3 CS/min and Tryn only 4.0 CS/min I'd guess you didn't visit often, which means that Darius snowballed hard, but you didn't get any other lane going to compensate. Mid was close, but the Ahri there farmed worse than Tryn.

The key is that your KDA is somewhat meaningless. LoL is a team game. If you can't help the rest of your team you will lose.

I can go back to last night and my last game of the night. It was a normal and I decided to finally try out Bard. It turns out that my ADC was a second time Ashe player, so experience was an issue. I even confused my team at the start as I took W and visited top and then mid lane to drop off a healing shrine for those lanes. (and got thanked from my top laner for thinking of it.) This game started very slowly and 10 minutes in there had been a total of 5 kills. (the score was 3v2 in my teams favor.) I was concentrating on trying to keep my ADC alive and poking when I could. I ended up assisting on 18 kills throughout the game, but the key was that I fed Ashe. She finished with 11 kills and 6 were obtained in lane before we pushed the tower and started roaming. And it was little things. Wards in the right place. A well timed ult that froze Lebroken and allowed us to crush her when it ran out. A healing shrine left so I could back and get sightstone.... etc. It was not perfect play, but it was enough to help my team build the momentum for a dominant win.

But a huge part of that is that I "main" support. I probably play support in 7 of every 10 games and I've learned some of the subtleties of the position and the champs. That's what will get you out of bronze faster than any other method. It's a simple process.

choose a role you will main and then 2 "secondaries" try for the main role, but if you can't get it use a secondary. Never play the other 2 roles in ranked unless you have no choice.
Choose 3-4 champs for your main role and 2 for each secondary. Select one in your main role for your primary champ. The others are for if your first choice is banned/picked or to fill out a team comp. Those are the ONLY champs you play in ranked unless again you have no choice. Note: This does not mean you select Katarina, Le Blanc, Zed (mid main), Riven, Cho'gath (top), Gragas, Rek'sai (jungle) as your 7 champs. Yes, some can be dominant, but any champ is good. Choose ones you enjoy playing and have some that aren't likely to be banned in every game.
practice the champs you want to play.
stay positive in games.

That's about all you can do.

And if you check my admittedly short ranked history you'll see I practice what I preach. I have played 5 champs in ranked play and other than maybe ending up playing an ADC or Janna for support that is all you'll see me play.

As I said I main support, and here is my pattern for champ/role select.

Sona - Support (always first choice) Zyra - Support (if I feel she'll work better with the comp.) Janna - Support (rarely, only if I can't play one of the others. Sejuani - Jungle (was going to be my main before I switched to support) Amumu - Jungle Maokai - Jungle Jinx - ADC Ashe - ADC

After that I'm in trouble, but most likely I'll be able to keep it to those 7 champs. And it makes a difference. I hadn't originally planned on maining Sona, but after my first few ranked matches I realized that its easier to get the support role, so I started to switch. Unfortunately I wasn't ready and lost quite a few matches in a row, but I'm 7-1 in my last 8 with a minimum KDA of 4,00 in that time. The practice has made a huge difference.

oO Oo Gin oO OoMay 28, 20151 votes

Thank you very much for these. I know what i should do, i was just frustrated that i lost so much in a row, i almost gave up. I guess this really takes time. I just felt that i lost so much time playing with afk and ppl dont want to win. I was so unhappy i guess, but thanks, i will try harder.

mvargusMay 29, 20151 votes

It is a process. I started out 4-1 in my prelims and was feeling good, but then went 0-5 and wound up in Silver 5. Then I lost my next 6 ranked games and was actually worrying about being demoted so I took 3 weeks off ranked while practicing Sona and Zyra and just getting off tilt.

And I did fun things at times. I tried out several new champions. I played a ton of ARAM and actually finally started to figure out how to teamfight as an ADC. I even got in a game of Dominion which proved to be quite a bit of fun as I got to use a champion that is not in my primary pool. (but who I'd love to play more often.)

Eventually some of the little things I was doing wrong before were adjusted and I started doing a lot better. I went from a period on Sona where my best game was a 2.75 KDA and the only games I had less than 6 deaths were a 0/3/1 ranked loss and a 0/2/3 ranked loss. But once I got off tilt things changed for the better. On Sona in my last 8 games my worst KDA was 4.0 and I'm 7-1. I couldn't point out any one thing I've improved, but something clicked and I'm playing better.

I will say its not about "trying harder". If you get too intense and worry too much about how well you do, the usual effect is to make you play worse. That's how I ended up on tilt. I wanted the wins too much and would make mistakes trying to force plays. There's the old saying of "work smart, not hard" which fits LoL. You need to play "smart". Know when calls can be made and try to anticipate them. Know what the other roles should be doing so you can keep track of them. Get to love your mini-map. (funny thing I spend more time watching it than the main map sometimes as it allows me to track the other champs.) When all that comes together you get wins, even if someone on the other team is uber fed.

My ranked game yesterday is an example, where I played Amumu. The other team went for a 4 man invade/gank at the start and caught me near my blue buff. A short time later my teams Garen got caught by their jungler and we were quickly down 2 kills. But no one on my team panicked or even appeared to worry. We slowly started turning the fight around. I got wards down and pulled off several ganks on mid and bot lanes which got our mid snowballing and slowed the other teams ADC even as that ADC fed as hard as he could.

The enemy ADC was a Varus and he eventually had a KDA of 20/4/6, but his team got only 3 towers all game, 2 dragons and lost hard once my team managed to get control of both mid and top lanes. The funny thing is that it was a team effort for my team. The Garen feasted early, but mid and late game he had our mid Akali also well fed which meant that we could burst just about anyone on the enemy team. Even our support helped a ton as Leona would chain her CC with mine allowing us to pin any champion.

And we didn't talk much, just a few encouraging words and a couple of thank yous when things went well. Heck, one of my comments was an apology to the Akali when I killed the enemy mid-laner during a gank. Akali was like "you just secured it (the kill), she was trying to escape." The lack of negativity and just the sense that we were having fun made a huge difference.

oO Oo Gin oO OoMay 29, 20151 votes

thanks for you tips. This sounds strange, now i am in bronze 2, in ranked, our team are actually better than i was in bronze 1 playing with silver 5, more feedings and trolls in silver 5, can you believe that? I won a game yesterday with 4 vs 5 and i carried our good team, we had good team fights and teamwork. That is kind game i like to play, not those just blame and so toxic. i hope i get out of bronze soon, out of 6 games yesterday, 2 games had afk, 1 game with 2 afks. I am trying

mvargusMay 29, 20151 votes

I can't say, I'm in Silver 5 and can only remember 2 games total with an AFK. Most of my bad games have occurred when I couldn't get a good mesh with the ADC while I was supporting and we end up wrecked. Part was I wasn't using the best positioning and decisionmaking. I've gotten a lot better though, thanks to practice.

And yes, I've had ranked games where someone on the team played poorly. It is frustrating. Usually after a game like that I take a break from ranked and play ARAMs or with my friends so I calm down. It never helps to enter a game already angry.

oO Oo Gin oO OoMay 28, 20151 votes

not these games, the game i played that was on losing streak, 6 in a row and then 7 games in a row, i got a ap cait, support jax, and feeding, all those games together

TsenMay 29, 20151 votes

@Mega Do you have any idea how hot your critiquing is? <3

Also @op I wouldn't mention promos in team select ever. Or show the attitude you had at the time of posting this in an actual ranked game as it can affect teamplay as well. Even if someone on your teams gives up or trolls by intentionally feeding the enemy team cause your team won't surrender. Just do what you can and move on. Consistency is what is needed to climb. If you are constantly losing game, try and rewatch your matches and see what you could have done in situations where you pointlessly died. (I applaud those who take headshots for their teammates v_v)

FierceSTEAKMay 27, 20152 votes

You make it seem like every one of your game has an afk, troll, etc.. I actually wrote about ranking up pretty fast here: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/tips-tricks/uKiIffW7-no-such-thing-as-elo-hell-tips-to-ranking-up-fast

Take those tips, apply them, and when you are in bronze, you pretty much have to carry hard most of the time if you want to leave there.

If you want to add me, you can, and I'll be more than glad to answer other questions.

oO Oo Gin oO OoMay 27, 20151 votes

I make mistakes in game yes i do, but they are repairable. I was support and my adc cait went ap and she had no cc, so thats my fault? And duo bot but 10 mins and the adc is lv 5 afk most of the time. And i m jungler, but then 3 lanes feeding, i help but that didnt work. And jax support that never ward and never helped team fight. I said pls buy wards or upgrade trinket but nothing. I am trying hard as myself, to roam and help the team and not be toxic, but still lose. I never afk or feed the enemy, and i watch my map for ganks. I was chogath and went help top yasuo, so i Q and he didn't ult, i pinged, then i Q again but under turret, so yasuo go in didnt kill the enemy, yasuo didnt die, but had 1/4 HP, and i saw the enemy jungler, so i pinged so much for yasuo to leave, but he ignores me and focus on the minions so he died, that was his 5th death at top. If you played my games then you will know.

tonzillacrayonMay 27, 20152 votes

your enemys are as bad as your teammates, dont blame teams or luck there is a reason i could take your account and get it to platinum as fast as you can say snicker doodle. Learn more about the game make less mistakes no secret will help you get out besides those two things.

oO Oo Gin oO OoMay 27, 20151 votes

no you are wrong, none of my enemy had ap adc, or troll support. or 3 lanes feeding, just none, not even 10 mins and adc is still lv 5

Gym Leader YakiMay 27, 20152 votes

Your problem is that you put all of the blame on your teammates. Just reread your own thread, where do you accuse yourself in here?

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I was 36 wins 32 losses as ranked. and now i m 42 wins and 50 losses. I tried 4 times to get in series for silver 5 and now i m demoted to b 2. The trolls, and afk, feeding are just too hard. i had ap cait bot and i m the support, but she decided go ap adc is more better. and had jax support, never helped in battle never buy wards. then those feeding lanes. I was on a losing streak for losing 6 games in a row and another losing streak for 7 losses in a row. Then i took a break for 5 days, and then today, we were winning, then yeah the top garen went afk, lol we lost. I always had better score for me and i tried to carry my team but it is toooooo hard. feeding 10 times in the first 10 min duo bot, and those 3 lanes feeding when i jung. How do you really get out of bronze? Bc no matter how hard i try i just don't have the luck to win. And yeah another ranked i played that i won the game, but the game sever went on service, so i didn't actually win that game. This is so unfair, my enemy always get fed and they are always the strong people. I really don't know what to do. PLS help. SOS. I read so much and watched so much on how to get out of bronze but i just can't. I really don't understand, we are all the same bronze 1 Q in fight, but it is always like the enemies are silver 1 and my team is like bronze 6. Play from bronze 5 to bronze 1 then at least you can learn how to not feed so much in the first 10 min and why can't they get their cs up instead of feeding to the other adc???????????????????????????????????????? PLS HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can understand loosing a game because of your team, but putting the blame on ALL of your teams for not ranking up IS YOUR OWN FAULT. You rank up because you're skilled enough to rank up. Keep blaming your allies AND YOU WILL NEVER REACH YOUR GOAL.

Start by working on yourself before accusing others.

SexyTaylorSwiftMay 27, 20151 votes

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I can understand loosing a game because of your team

You rank up because you're skilled enough to rank up.

You can't say you should be able to rank up if you're skilled, even though you have troll teammates. In my opinion, expecting 1 person to have a bigger effect than the other 9 is not a good argument. Unless you are a diamond smurf, the game pretty much depends on who has the troll on their team.

Gym Leader YakiMay 28, 20151 votes

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You can't say you should be able to rank up if you're skilled, even though you have troll teammates. In my opinion, expecting 1 person to have a bigger effect than the other 9 is not a good argument. Unless you are a diamond smurf, the game pretty much depends on who has the troll on their team.

I never said that. What I said was it's understandable to loose a game because of your team(AKA a troll), but this shouldn't stop you from ranking up if you're skilled enough to rank up.

What I'm trying to say is that you WON'T ALWAYS have trolls/AFKers in your games. This WILL impact your win ratio, I understand, BUT not enough to prevent you from climbing. I'm not implying someone to have the MMR of a diamond to climb from bronze to silver either, don't get me wrong. It is impactful, but if you're truly a silver player (or wtv rank) then you'll be able to climb there despite having a hard time in a game.

The reason I'm saying this is because the thread starter seems to be blaming his team all of the time (by his original thread). You can't just do that. It's understandable to get pissed off at your teammates and might think it's their fault for your lost, but not all of the time! Out of his 92 total ranked games, he can't just blame his allies for most of them, it's just wrong! So that's why I posted my comment.

SexyTaylorSwiftMay 28, 20151 votes

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butt if you're truly a silver player (or wtv rank) then you'll be able to climb there despite having a hard time in a game.

This is what I have a problem with. First off, the skill difference between silver and gold is minimal. So, if you're really a gold ranked player, you aren't that much better than the silvers you are playing against. This difference can easily be offset by 1 person that is 0-7-2 because they are playing a champ for the first time and they decide to do it in your ranked match. Believe me, this is very very common. And yes, "well the other team has players doing this too", which is why I say that it is completely luck of the draw of who gets more of these players in their game.

oO Oo Gin oO OoMay 28, 20151 votes

I agree, I was pretty unhappy that i lost so much games in a row bc of the trolls and afks. I guess i didnt know better that there are so much players play lol not to win.

KhâmulMay 27, 20151 votes

try something. if you win,keep playing.if you don't try one more game. After that,if you win,stop playing and if you loose,stop playing too. So ,do you see what I mean? Mental condition is everything.Last year,despite having an awful pc (20 fps in lane and 5 fps in teamfight,disgusting huh) I managed to be silver V by playing a few ranked, (at the same time,I had to be at upmost efficiency becauseI had to deal with my pc problem). After that ,I was playing in the division "Mordekaiser's curse".I was happy since mordekaiser is my main.I played 2 ranked every 2 weeks,I was just waiting to be in a good mental condition to play well and try not to pay attention to my fps.As result,in less than 30 games,I was silver I. After that I stayed Inactive and went down to silver II.I was pissed off because my division was "Gangplank's something " so I ruined two games (not intentionnally ). Conclusion,don't tryhard desperately to get out of bronze.the fact that you're desperate will just make you loose more and more games. And btw,play the morning,people who play in the morning are more efficient,their mind is freed from toxicity because in the afternoon,everyone get back from school/work while being tired. Good luck

oO Oo Gin oO OoMay 27, 20151 votes

that one i didnt try hard enough as ahri, i had 350 ping and garen went afk so.

seattlebudzzMay 28, 20151 votes

Its a game bro. Sometimes you will lose games. It happens. Move on.

oO Oo Gin oO OoMay 28, 20151 votes

i m moving on, another game with 2 afks.... gg

oO Oo Gin oO OoMay 28, 20151 votes

I know I make mistakes in games and I know I don't get fed fast, but i play steady, I farm in my lane, i poke, i dodge the ganks, I always play like 0 0 0 or 1 0 0, in my lane, and then there it is, they are feeding the enemies, then the enemies just keep snowballing, I can't do anything, bc they had too much death, and no cs to get items, they keep dying in 4 vs 5, 3 vs 5 then the enemies keep snowballing, what should I do????????

oO Oo Gin oO OoMay 28, 20151 votes

I just want to know what to do when these happens, If you can see my games, then you can see, the most death is always on my teams and it went in a row, a row of afk and feeding. Even i stopped playing for 5 days, and the 1st game i start to play had an afk. I dealt the most damage from both teams, and it is never enough. I want advises, so pls help me.

oO Oo Gin oO OoMay 28, 20151 votes

yet another game i m lux mid, but top singed only farms, he never helped once team fight, all he does is farm, he doesnt even care if the enemies are there, all he does is farm and feed........... GG bronze.

NyaboronMay 28, 20151 votes

If you're stuck in bronze, chances are you either 1- belong in bronze 2-belong in silver

The thing about climbing, is you're going to have shitty teammates once in a while and you're going to lose. This is going to happen a lot and tough shit, it's going to even your LP out. BOOM you're stagnant. If you belong just above where you are currently, chances are you're going to have a real tough time climbing up to where you belong. When you stagnate, chances are you are getting pretty close to where you belong skill-wise. Without major improvements, you aren't challenger material, so shut up. Look to IMPROVE YOURSELF and the rank will follow. If you need help learning stuff, find a coach so you don't lose time and LP (lol-coaching.com has a lot of great free coaches, me included). The difference of your skill vs that of your teammates/enemies isn't enough for you to carry. You can win lane or at least not feed consistently, but you aren't carrying. In order to climb out of bronze, be as good as a gold.

Citation: Pros who belong in challenger make smurfs all the time and go bronze→diamond VERY quickly. They're good enough to CARRY consistently. I belong anywhere between D3-D5 and that's why I'm very slowly climbing Plat 2/plat 1 but I was easily able to climb through gold after a bad placement series this time around. Despite trolls and afks in placements which landed me gold 2, I got through gold 2→gold 1→plat 5 in under a day by CARRYING from SUPPORT. Complaining about teammates, not being able to carry from specific roles, whatever is a stupid excuse.

oO Oo Gin oO OoMay 28, 20151 votes

1st of all, thanks and i agree with you. I was just frustrated, i was in series to get in to silver 5, but i always win only 2 then i lose the other 3 due to afk or duo feeding or bad champ selections, but it was still ok. The funny thing is that after i lost my series then the next game i always win. I kept playing, then that happened, last serie, i lost 3 games in a row, then 3 more. Then i went on a losing streak, then i am now 45 wins and 52 losses. Then i went to bronze 2 now, so thats why I post here to just shout my misery out of me haha, well and hope to get more tips on league. yeah thanks.

oO Oo Gin oO OoMay 28, 20151 votes

Not sometimes see another game with 2 afk

DocomobadJun 1, 20151 votes

Ill friend you we can duo and ill see what I can do to help I have similar problems was in Gold 2-1 all last season which is where I think I should be but played my series placements this season and lost all 10 and got put in silver 3 back to silver 2 but climbing back up has been a pain soooooo many afks feeders trolls. Everytime I hit a slump though I just find someone to duo que with and get past it easy.