lately ive been playing a shit ton of riven and its awesome...anyone i catch out is dead..my problem is when the enemy starts grouping... i flash w and get penta stuns and shit but i die immediatley.. idk what to do as riven when the enemy groups..even when my team groups it feels clunky.... if i split push, they come as a group and kill me. idk... in low elo, grouping is hard to play against.
Tsugaga3 votesRiven has to be played like a Yi, Tryn, etc, like an AD assassin. You want to clean up kills and win the fight for your team, stay back a bit and wait for your initiator to initiate. If you just dive into the enmy team then you'll be CC'd and focused down.
Kapppaccino1 votesRiven has to be played like a Yi, Tryn, etc, like an AD assassin. You want to clean up kills and win the fight for your team, stay back a bit and wait for your initiator to initiate. If you just dive into the enmy team then you'll be CC'd and focused down.
really? ive been playing her wrong then lol. what build do u recommend?
Tsugaga1 votesreally? ive been playing her wrong then lol. what build do u recommend?
I've played her a bit and have watched a lot of others play her so I know how she's supposed to be played. As far as builds go for her I couldn't say for sure. Hydra + BT are usually her core items, and sometimes Rivens build Ghostblade. You can go 100% AD but I've seen a lot of players get Randuins/Banshees/GA depending on the enemy team.
Flaming Diva1 votesI've played her a bit and have watched a lot of others play her so I know how she's supposed to be played. As far as builds go for her I couldn't say for sure. Hydra + BT are usually her core items, and sometimes Rivens build Ghostblade. You can go 100% AD but I've seen a lot of players get Randuins/Banshees/GA depending on the enemy team.
Apparently I've been playing Riven all wrong as well, and building her wrong as well. Every time I've faced a Riven, all I can think of is "omg op just like pre-nerfed Ryu with all the intelligence energy."
African Dreampop1 votesRiven has to be played like a Yi, Tryn, etc, like an AD assassin. You want to clean up kills and win the fight for your team, stay back a bit and wait for your initiator to initiate. If you just dive into the enmy team then you'll be CC'd and focused down.
Sup Ryu
Shiroi Kitsune1 votesWould just like to say that this is exactly what I too was going to suggest. Just stick to the outside of fights, and try to clean-up.
Leti the Yeti2 votesIf you're fed enough you sorta just RQEQWQR and get a penta kill
Kapppaccino1 votesIf you're fed enough you sorta just RQEQWQR and be get a penta kill
tried it. get cc and die instantly.
IcyPepper2 votesUse wards if you split push so you can see them coming a mile away.
Thing is, your team needs to be always doing something and for a reason. If they're grouping up and trying to push mid, you can either group up yourselves are try to apply pressure on the map.
If the enemy team sends multiple people after you while split-pushing, you just taken pressure off your team. Use wards, recall immediately (when you see them leave the group, not as a reaction when you see them) and regroup with your team. Then overwhelm them with more numbers (since you got rid of a few for their tower, see?).
In a group, positioning is key. Riven, imo, can be considered a bruiser even if built full ad. Either clean up teamfights, or be the second initiator (typically you'll want a tank to lead the charge). People really underestimate this.
Just yesterday I was playing Sejuani and told my team we had to force a fight. The enemy team blew all their skills on me, the frontline, allowing the carries to deal as much damage as possible. Unfortunately, the Katarina got out of position (it wasn't time to clean up yet) and accidentally threw the game. But if she had waited, we would have won the teamfight because the enemy focused the tank due to our superiour positioning.
Just some food for thought.
Kapppaccino1 votesUse wards if you split push so you can see them coming a mile away.
Thing is, your team needs to be always doing something and for a reason. If they're grouping up and trying to push mid, you can either group up yourselves are try to apply pressure on the map.
If the enemy team sends multiple people after you while split-pushing, you just taken pressure off your team. Use wards, recall immediately (when you see them leave the group, not as a reaction when you see them) and regroup with your team. Then overwhelm them with more numbers (since you got rid of a few for their tower, see?).
In a group, positioning is key. Riven, imo, can be considered a bruiser even if built full ad. Either clean up teamfights, or be the second initiator (typically you'll want a tank to lead the charge). People really underestimate this.
Just yesterday I was playing Sejuani and told my team we had to force a fight. The enemy team blew all their skills on me, the frontline, allowing the carries to deal as much damage as possible. Unfortunately, the Katarina got out of position (it wasn't time to clean up yet) and accidentally threw the game. But if she had waited, we would have won the teamfight because the enemy focused the tank due to our superiour positioning.
Just some food for thought.
i fucking love your reply. amazing information i was really unaware of. honor to those elite few who actually try to help out noobs like me.
Duke Anax2 votesThis is also why teleport is so damn usefull for splitpushing.
It's a faster escape then recall so when you see them comming, you can wait a bit more to make sure they go to the lane (check with wards!)
And when your team properly wards, you can jump right into a 5v3, you'll probably win, before the enemies that came for you make it back.
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This is also why teleport is so damn usefull for splitpushing.
It's a faster escape then recall so when you see them comming, you can wait a bit more to make sure they go to the lane (check with wards!)
And when your team properly wards, you can jump right into a 5v3, you'll probably win, before the enemies that came for you make it back.
i usually save tp for counter ganks D:
Duke Anax1 votesIt's usefull for that too, but when you are teamfighting and splitpushing there aren't any ganks anymore.
Tsugaga1 votesHuh, what, who are you guys? xD Oh, those are your same usernames from WoN :p Heya
Nick Valentine1 votesManage your CC. You shouldn't be flashing for W, it's like 0.75 seconds. I would go in using two charges of Q, Ki Burst, hydra and then immediately into the knockup and ult finisher. Q+W is enough time for you to actually kill someone.
FedAsFuk1 votesAdded you in game to go over things as the forum delay usually annoys me to the point i stop helping
Kapppaccino1 votesAdded you in game to go over things as the forum delay usually annoys me to the point i stop helping
oh alrighty. ty. im online now.