So I have just recently started playing a lot of 
, and I am really enjoying him. However I am having some issues with his early jungle clear. I start golems and smite them, and then head to red buff. Red buff is where all my problems start, i either clear it with about 10hp left or get killed by it. Can anyone suggest what I am doing wrong?
(Right now i am level 18 and running 18-0-0 and pretty standard jungle runes)
Thanks
I have 2 accounts, one that's been level 30 for a while now, easily a year and a half, the other that is currently level 16. The sad fact is that without tier 3 runes and adequate masteries, jungling rampup and survivability are significantly impaired.
When I jungle on either account, and I'm on blue side, I typically start at golems, ask for a hard leash, pop a healthpot and wait to be near full to start red. Once red is down, I immediately go for bot river scuttlecrab. This is an easy 50g that doesn't fight back, so it's win-win. By the time the crab is dead, I ward near bot river brush and then typically go to raptors. After raptors, I'm able to back and upgrade my machete and buy 4 healthpots.
Note: on my main account, I'm able to clear further than this on almost every champ I like to jungle with. However, on my other account, I have only purchased two champs, both of which aren't junglers per se, and I'm able to clear as stated above with all the weekly junglers that have been available for the last few weeks.
It seems to work for me.
umm, being level 18, you lack tier 3 runes and a lot of masteries. clearing jungle is hard until at least level 20 really I believe. also, j4 is about to get nerfed so if you are having trouble now, you might want to wait until level 20 at least.
i have a full rune page and masteries so I my jarvan's gonna do more damage than yours no matter how much you copy exactly as I do so you might not be doing anything wrong, you just cant jungle well yet.. this is really common in lower levels if you still like jarvan, you can take him top lane
beginner junglers are honestly limited to like..
they dont need runes to get going, i think
