here is my last game. my performance tends to be similar to this in around 90% of games but im still hovering bronze 4 ive gone up to b3 a number of times but always drop quickly i guess i just need to keep playing and ill climb. im hoping when i do my provisional's for season 6 ill be placed mid silver. but what exactly am i doing wrong that keeps me in bronze?
DrCyanide11 votesI'd like you to meet the secret for you to climb.
You two seem to be strangers. You buy it just so you don't look like a total noob as you walk out of your base, but for whatever reason you're trying your hardest not to use it.
46:01 game, 1 ward placed
42:29 game, 2 wards placed 20:43 game, 1 ward placed
39:26 game, 3 wards placed
34:45 game, 1 ward placed 28:42 game, 2 wards placed
(support, no-sightstone, no sweeper, upgraded yellow trinket) 52:15 game, 5 wards placedWard more. Honestly, I am flabbergasted you can be warding as little as you are.
snapykill1 voteswell i did have a sightstone up until very very late and i knew we were done so i sold it
but yes i really need to get in the habit of warding more
JJI7447 votesFirst off, don't attempt to deceive yourself. The match you posted is far FAR better than your average game. You typically rack up a lot more deaths.
Second, they types of champions you play (melee ADCs and assasins mostly) typically MUST run away with the match of they end up as a detriment. You usually weaken your teamcomp with a lot of those picks, and need to make up for it by pulling ahead. So yeah, going even with those champs is often not good enough.
As Dr. Cyanide pointed out, your warding is aweful, like really terrible.
Advice: Dying a lot typically reduces your capability to carry a match. I know Bronze tends to be a tad... enthusiastic about fighting, but try to dial back the death-count a bit. You may find yourself being able to impact your games more when your not spending as much time staring at a grey screen. Either that, or try branching out to some champs that can carry without directly obliterating the enemy team. (Sion top, built as a tank, can win games just by being a brick wall that includes a Frozen Heart aura)
Final note: how do you buy a sightstone and place 3 wards in a 45 minute game?
Pengod3 votesScore == win. You could be super fed, have good CS. But unfortunately, that does not determine how you got those kills, where you were if your team needed you, your objective control, focus in fights, and plenty of other things.
Neckerei3 votesWell it could be a number of things since we obviously cant see every choice you make from an after game score. Sometimes you may do well score wise but make bad choices and that can sometimes cost you the game. Other times maybe you didnt press your lead right. Like for example: You get say 2 kills, you could always roam to another lane and help them out with your lead. Another thing is share your power. No point in having 20 kills if when you die your team loses fights. After all even if fed you arent invincible you cant 1v5. With a lead try to find as many oppurtunities to help your team sometimes your hand can be the deciding factor if another lane wins or loses. There can be a huge number of things. Back when i was silver i focused on mechanics instead of decision making. Its a huge mistake being superior in fights to most doesnt help you when you make all the wrong calls with your lead or dont even use it. I may have had plat mechanics then but i would still struggle to win games. The moment i started improoving my shot calls or decisions i quickly got to gold within a week. The best tip i can give to you is play to improove not win or climb. If you set yourself little goals here and there and work towards them you will learn that skill much quicker and it will become habbit. As you do this you will surely win and climb more becuase youre getting better and better. Hope i helped you can feel free to add me if you need more help or want more advice. I dont know what you play but im a long time mid main since season 2 and i main Zed and Yasuo if thats up your ally.
Also keep in mind the provisionals place you close to where you were from the last season and pre season calculated into it. So you will probably get placed lower unless you win alot of the provisionals even so alot of them place you against tougher opponents so winning can sometimes be a challenge during them. I was silver last season and ended preseason in gold 5 and my whole provisionals was plat 5-1.
Angry Monster2 votesyour b4 cause you can not keep up in b3. well that was easy.
As long as you think it is all about kills you should be in bronze.
No love For2 votesThe fact that you are showing your stats and claim to deserve higher cuz of your personnal score is great in a 5v5 game . Shows me that u dont deserve to climb im sorry. Feel free to add me and ill try my best to help with objective control . Power spikes and rotations. Have a nice day
TouchpadExpert1 votesYou're good at getting yourself an advantage but what do you do with that advantage? You should be looking to take objectives or give allies an advantage through roaming. Remind allies of objectives on the regular. Call out picks for the team. Communicate :)
Ralantha1 votesObjective pushing is more important. If you get a few kills early in the game, you can buy a ward, help secure dragon and gank bot lane or roam top.
S2C2Xd9KOy1 voteshttps://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=snapykill Seeing as your average ranked KDA is 8.5/7.5/7, it immediately says you do not go 15/3/6 every game. To emphasize your warding, or lack there of, you need to. You need to a lot more and you need to upgrade your trinket. You also don't really do damage. Looking at the damage charts in your games you're often 3rd-5th highest damage. If you really think you're creating an impact you should typically be 1st or 2nd on the damage chart. I'd say your cs is bad but thats probably average for bronze 4. You also have 46% kill contribution over 20 games, which shows you're not carrying at all, you're more than likely trying to pick people off than actually fight and push with your team. You also aren't great at many champions. Your Fizz is the only champion you have with an acceptable amount of games played to say that the 3.5kda is consistent. You have 30 games on Zed with a 37% win rate and are averaging more deaths than kills. Stop playing Zed. You can't play him. There are obvious changes you need to make to climb. I can just assume you're toxic based on the way you wrote this post and how you play the game. You don't have the game knowledge to make proper callouts and you don't know push formations.
Realistically the only way out of bronze is to be a smurf of at least gold/plat. Bronze players are not good, so you have to carry every single game to climb and you have to carry consistently. You can't do well one game then play bad the next 2 games and ask why you're not climbing. You have to have a lot of game knowledge to get out of bronze without being a smurf pretty much. People will disagree but it's my opinion and it's a sad truth. You can't be "just good enough" to climb out of bronze, you have to be exceptionally good and know how to carry the elo. I find it funny and ironic however that you play some of the best champions to climb out of bronze but you don't climb. Stop playing champions you're not good at. You have to admit you're not good at them and move onto other champions.
Play Fizz and Diana. Ward. Don't be toxic. Learn how to control the map and how to call for objectives. I just realized even when you support you don't buy sightstone OR finish your support item. Damn dude. Really? Sightstone should be in your first 2 items. Sightstone and boots man. You have a lot to learn if you want to climb.
JhomasTefferson1 votesDick, In what way was he toxic? You sound like the oversensitive people that call everyone "negative" and "toxic".
The rest of your post i agree with, but in no way did he come off as toxic.
S2C2Xd9KOy1 votesLol, I'm saying that I assume he's toxic based on the fact that he's posting this. Every time I see someone who thinks they should be higher elo, theyre absolutely always toxic. Im actually the opposite of that. I made a post yesterday that was literally saying that I don't think "toxicity" should be punishable unless theres hate speech or threats. I honestly assume most people are toxic that play this game, because truthfully speaking most people are. It's mainly because he posted a screenshot from a game he played days before (I didnt check the time stamp, it might've been the same day as this post but it was an older game) and then lied about it being an average game for him. Just the circumstances of the post and the topic made me assume that he's more than likely just an ass in game chat.
JhomasTefferson1 votesI think i should be higher elo too.
But i see your point, sorry. I thought you were calling him toxic. I can kinda see why that's a safe assumption to make now.
S2C2Xd9KOy1 votesIf you were actually good enough to be at a higher elo, you would be.
You personally are too inconsistent. Some games you do well, other games you do absolutely awful. Your cs is typically decent across the board but could be better. As I said, to climb out of bronze you have to be much better than bronze and you can't afford to feed one game. Your losses make massive differences in bronze elo.
JhomasTefferson1 votesAre you looking at my ranked games? I Haven't played ranked in a week. I took the time to play normals and develop my "blame my teammates" strategy to avoid raging and going on tilt, and to hone my skills with the mute button. Also, I've been messing around with champs I don't play often or are completely new to. I know in ranked, at least if i remember right, i consistently do pretty well, and never do much worse than going even, which i know isn't good. I also know i need to buy more greens and pinks, and die less too.
And I wouldn't necessarily be at a higher elo if i was better. I know it's a statistical anomaly, but i could be unlucky enough to get a very unskilled player, troll, or afk on my team every time i enter promos.
S2C2Xd9KOy1 votestheres trolls in every elo so you can't even blame that lol. and i looked at ranked at normals, same thing. not consistent
JhomasTefferson1 votesOh, that's weird, I remember being really consistent, and honestly haven't looked that far back myself, so i could be remembering wrong.
And i Kinda can, there's a lot more trolls in bronze. I know from experience. There a difference between silver and bronze as far as numbers of trolls go.
Hmm, well, at least I've got the positive attitude now.
any tips on how to climb, considering I'm a jung main and mid main?
S2C2Xd9KOy1 votesFor any role just use smart pings. Don't ks your adc just so you can get ahead Don't roam at stupid times. Earlier on my smurf I was like 3/0 in lane with like 11 cs/minute and my lane opponent would just disappear for minutes at a time, show up in a different lane and make no impact on the lane so they just put themselves further behind and even screwed their adc/top laner because of the xp share because of him being there. Try and shot call, but don't if you don/t know how (learn). Only play champions you consistently perform well on. If you have 70 games on fizz ( i dont even know if u play fizz, its an example), but your kda on him is 1.6 and you have a 27% win rate, stop playing them. Just get good at champions with high skill high reward. I pretty much only play Zed and Azir on my smurf because since they're both "hard", they have really good scalings, so if you can play them well then it's completely worth it. Ahri and Orianna are really good picks mid if you dont know who your opponent is. They also have good scalings and make big impacts late game.
As for juggling theres not much advice I can really give without actually being in the game. Your clear path is entirely based on the champion and leash available and there no set gank pattern because theres no way for me to know what your lanes look like without once again, being in the game. If your bot lane is getting pushed up really bad then apply pressure. Get red trinket on your 2nd back. Almost always have a pink ward since you dont have a warding trinket. Feel free to get a sightstone on a jungler like Nidalee.
I'd recommend Shyvana strongly. Get devourer as fast as you can and then just rush through your jungle and the enemies and take scuttle as often as possible. As soon as you purchase full devourer go do dragon and take crab, that's 7 stacks already. Then clear both sides of your jungle and go to whichever side of the jungle that you know their jungler isn't in (like if you're on blue side at your gromp and they show bot, go do their raptors-red-rocks. Bronze junglers deny rocks a ton btw, so they'll pretty much always be up. You should be sated at around 15 minutes. Don't even bother ganking before then unless it;s very optimal. This tip seems stupid as fuck, saying to not gank, but if theres no reason to, it's far more valuable to get your sated. From there just go into boots (mercs, tabi or attack speed boots, whatever theyre called) BOTRK-Ravenous or Titanic and then if you're fed af then you can go pretty much full damage with a cleaver and BT or a PD and IE or any combination. If you need to be a bit tanker I'd say dead man's into cleaver ro something like that. Shyvana just ruins low elo because she's so good. You can truthfully play whatever champions you want, as long as you're good at them. If you get good at Rek'Sai that would be really good.
JhomasTefferson1 votesOk. I kinda got that the jungling is more dynamic. And i know how to farm hard because every time I'm a devourer jung my team feeds the enemy is up by three kills by 5 min. So I'm good at just ignoring them and going for sated really quick, especially with scuts giving two stacks, then try to grab drag once and I can get sated somewhere around 15-18.
But the red at 2nd back? Really? I usually upgrade yellow because i'm bronze and if i don't no one else will ward anywhere, and 75 is kinda a lot i think to keep spending for wards if i can get free ones every 15. But, I'll start trying it. And the "always have a pink ward" thing. Ill try that too. I usually buy like 2-3 pinks and a few greens a game. This is gonna be a little different. Like. i know red is good, but i thought just supp got it.
And shot calling in bronze is hard. I'm a jung main more so than mid, and if you say to them, once, "junglers actually don't have to gank for you" which is true, they assume you have no idea how to play and don't listen to you for the rest of the game, and usually report you. If you say "I don't have to donate you blue or red if i don't want to" You're bad and have no idea how to play. If you say "well, you fed, so i'm not ganking for you" you are bad, have no idea how to play, and will get reported. If you try to tell someone who's doing better than you to upgrade trinket, they say "lol, stfu, I'm better than you, you're upgraded trinket doing you real good" and they ignore you. If you tell someone doing worse than you to upgrade trinket, you get "Im behind on gold, i can't afford it, I'm not as fed as you, or just no" and you get ignored. If you trade a tower you get while splitting for a drag, "You suck and have no drag control" and will be ignored for the rest of the game. If you minion tax the adc, ooh boy. It doesn't matter if you got them a double "Report lee for taking adc farm fucking nob reported" and i get reported, and they don't listen to me for the rest of the game. If i take the adc's kill, well, you know. If i take mid's kill or even sometime's tops and i'm a tank jung, it's sort of the same story.
If you try to explain why grouping is bad, you don't know how to play and get ignored, which is probably the biggest and worst thing about elo hell. Like, you know your comp suck for team fights and theirs is Literally Fiddle, Nunu, amumu, Galio, Kata, or something similar with a stupid amount of aoe and cc. And you say to yourself "we are all strong 1v1ers, and we kinda will do alright together in groups of 2 or 3, but team fighting is out for us. And there's always 2 idiots(usually the adc, who supp just follows, or mid after getting way ahead and feeding the adc or top some) who say "hey guys, lets group up, usually somewhere around 15-30 minutes." And I'm like, no. And i explain why. And i'm always wrong. So my choices are to listen to my team blame me while I split top or bot and they get 4v5'd mid being stupid with no vision, and by the time i back the enemy has taken 2 towers, or to group with them, and do something i know we're going to fail in. then we lose 5v5 and they all wonder what happened. And i point out that i told them not to group, and then decided - against my better judgement - to group with them after they ignored me, and they tell me i'm bad and that we lost the team fight cuz i misplayed. not because the adc stood next to their top laner, who everyone focused besides me. And that's just the shit when you're ahead and don't have a good comp. Now imagine not having a team comp for grouping and being behind as a team, and having the idiots say group.
And then there's the inverse of that. When I'm snowballing as jung early, and so is the mid laner, and i say group, and our comp is like, deathball with ranged cc, like blitz cho j4 ashe and yas, like, the team fight comp, your top and mid will have to farm. Or you, as a team, are behind, but that's cuz they have like 2 out of control assassins running around and you know that if you grouped and they tried to dunk on your adc again they'd get hit with you and top's hard cc, and your team won't actually group, but keeps running to their death 1 at a time... and you say guys, we should group. "But they're ahead and x champ is gonna just blow us up." And you get ignored. or, you group, and you dive their adc and mid laner, and kill them both, then get killed yourself cuz your team doesn't follow up, and then they get 3v4'd cuz they went in one at a time, you get told "see, we told you this was a bad idea, now they're snowballing harder."
You also can't shot call if anyone else on your team is fed and they want to shotcall, because "they're more fed than you, they obviously know better." and if you're behind/ gave up first blood, don't even think about it that game.
There's also a myriad of other things that will make shot calling with bronzies an exercise in futility.
Hopefully the red trinket pink ward trick works. Thanks!
JhomasTefferson1 votesUpgrade trinket and die less.
Honestly, dying less is probably most important. I need to do it more. That will help you quite a bit. That and upgrading trinket. And try to buy at least 2 pinks a match, and a green whenever you back before you upgrade trinket. If you still can't climb, start worrying about where you put your wards and how often you use the trinket.
It won't matter how much you ward and pressure objectives at the right time, if an assassin, or any champ, can delete you easily and without fail, because they're fed and your 1 or 2 deaths put you behind, you're going to lose.
BluePolarizer1 votesYou are only getting this many kills vs. other bronzes. That is why you are unable to climb.
KafkaBrother1 voteshttp://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1972758714/216759804?tab=overview heres a game i went 0/4/3 .. end result.. win
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1972431367/216759804?tab=overview heres one i went 2/1/4.. also a win
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1971919297/216759804?tab=overview heres on i went 8/8/23
heres the thing... i know how to play with a lead and close a game out.. and i also know what i have to do when i am behind. you dive in .. and go for kills all the time it looks like, when you get those kills you snowball.. if you dont get those kills you feed. focus on not dieing instead of chasing kills B when it is reasonable instead of push till you get ganked. or play like the elo that you want to be in.
AyRe CoNteMpT1 votesin that yasuo game, your KDA is 7.0 but your average yasuo KDA is 1.7 so your average performance is probably not exactly as in that game.
i think your biggest problem is that you are delusional and completely deny reality.
on this website, you can see your average performance per game in a scale from bronze to challenger:
http://freelo.gg/summoner/NA/snapykill
seems like thats why you are bronze.
snapykill1 votesThank you for that website! i did not know about it. this has so much useful information for me to focus on
snapykill1 votesthanks all for the advice. its blunt but useful, so im really gonna work on warding and using getting ahead more effectively. i think i have been making better decisions in my last few games. considering my lower deaths.
EvilMerodach1 votes
250 of the best spend gold you will ever spend in a game.
And considering no one on either side had it..it would have been a huge advantage for your team to have at least 1 guy with double warding power.
Though your 
with + 
makes me even more sad.
If you see a support with 
and still using , ask them to swap trinket out for 
(the pink one) or 
But work on remembering to upgrade your own 1st. Seriously, look through your match history, any game you were past level 12, and didn't have level 2 trinket of some kind yet, was a mistake on your part that could have potentially turned a loss into a win.
Edit: I said by level 12, but you can buy it at level 9, and in most cases you should. But sometimes you can delay it for a couple levels if there's something really important to your build you can complete that you couldn't if you used the 250 on trinket, rare, but it happens. But by level 12, you should have gotten it. No way you didn't have 250 spare gold at that point.
Go to Heck1 votesLooking at your lolking, you lose a lot of games despite doing very good personally. You should focus on more helping your team. Take more towers, roam more and things like that. Playing like a teammate instead of playing team deathmatch will help you go a long way. Sincerely, a jungler with a 95% win rate and a 3 KDA all due to assists. I go negative almost every game but rack up assists.
PS Use more 
snapykill1 votesthis happens. what do? http://imgur.com/sqgHnSG