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Good supports that are not in the support class

reboundRainbow··1 votes·3,467 views

so my friend thinks i should learn some characters that are supports but dont say support in their class like blitz and ahri i was wondering if there where more characters that could support that do not say they support in the store

i own most of the supports cause i main support and everything, but i was looking to find some others diffrent supports to learn

i use these supports most of the time

Soraka Janna Syndra Sona Zyra Lulu Leona

and i own a couple more like lux and morg, just wanted to strech out my champ pool

sorry for the confusion

49 Comments

Kei1436 votes

I'm a creative support player and I've had success with the following: Nunu Amumu Annie Brand Cassiopeia Darius Fiora Galio Gragas Kennen Karthus Malphite Maokai Nasus Shen Sejuani Nautilus Zac Ryze Veigar Sion Quinn Urgot Mordekaiser Viktor TwistedFate Xerath

Then again, I'm bronze2. Every thing works in that ELO

AxlRose091 votes

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Then again, I'm bronze2. Every thing works in that ELO

lol

Support Wood 52 votes

Good ccAhri, cc and poke Anivia, can dive towers from 6 DrMundo, good cc and tower dive Ekko, cc and towerdiveElise , great ult Kayle , good cc and initiation specially if you can push and take hold of the brush Rengar , best poke Velkoz, good with adc that is strong early Volibear , Great after lvl 6 with ultWarwick

Duke Anax2 votes

Let's add Chogath Fiddlesticks Gangplank Garen Heimerdinger Leblanc Poppy to the list. Though I'm not sure GP works as well after rework.

Faith Breaker3 votes

Cho gath is not a support, he needs to cs to use his passive. Don't give terrible advice please it's really wrong.

Duke Anax3 votes

He looses some of sustain, so what? It's not much and Relic makes up for that.

Faith Breaker1 votes

Because Cho is so popular in support. I've never seen it. You're wrong. Cho Gath does not support. I don't care what you think.

MakeThemRemember1 votes

ThereAreTwoTypesOfPlayersAndThisOneIsRudeAF summoner 14

Faith Breaker1 votes

Just because I disagree with you does not make me rude, and calling me rude doesn't change you being wrong.

warpenguin5551 votes

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I'm a creative support player and I've had success with the following: Nunu Amumu Annie Brand Cassiopeia Darius Fiora Galio Gragas Kennen Karthus Malphite Maokai Nasus Shen Sejuani Nautilus Zac Ryze Veigar Sion Quinn Urgot Mordekaiser Viktor TwistedFate Xerath

Then again, I'm bronze2. Every thing works in that ELO

it really does

Mimy2 votes

Annie Gragas Anivia Karma Lux Zyra Nautilus Orianna

Ive seen these as supports.. OH AND

Katarina Yasuo

Ive had friends support me as these two... and.. A good kat can devistate them..

and a Good yas can also devistate.. and block blitz grabs with his windwall.

Faith Breaker1 votes

Dont ever tell someone asking for advice on support to support with kat and yasuo. You're a horrible person for that.

Mimy1 votes

With wind wall having basically the same cool down..

I would put my trust in an experianced Yasuo while Blitzcrank runs amock...

then a moderate Morgana or Braum they can negate the damage but still get pulled...

Yasuo mains train to block skill shots at just the right moment and it's just like braum's unbreakable but better. because the pull will essentially disappear and negate everything where as braum's unbreakable will negate the damage but Blitzcrank will still pull him.

Faith Breaker1 votes

None of your advice is valid to someone looking to learn the support role. You're still in the wrong.

Mimy1 votes

Karma Would be the best bet then... I learned to support using her.

but for people new to support Soraka can somewhat BE OP!

Idk how many people seen a god raka.. but Ive seen sorakas able to turn whole teamfights somehow.. and you're left wondering what just happened..

but then you think..

They probably E'd us while we were grouping... causing us to get slightly stunned/rooted.. and used wish... but idk...

Aeolian Melodies1 votes

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With wind wall having basically the same cool down..

I would put my trust in an experianced Yasuo while Blitzcrank runs amock...

then a moderate Morgana or Braum they can negate the damage but still get pulled...

Yasuo mains train to block skill shots at just the right moment and it's just like braum's unbreakable but better. because the pull will essentially disappear and negate everything where as braum's unbreakable will negate the damage but Blitzcrank will still pull him.

Morgana can deny the pull with her shield.

Mimy1 votes

I KNEW IT! My friend's were all like "Nooo it dont so that" and im like "Im pretty sure for as long as ive been ADCing ..."

OH Now I remember

I okay so something weird happened when I had a morganna support.. Blitz tried to pull me, but mog managed to shield me.. IT PULLED BLITZ TO US and I remember picking up that kill..

I kept asking my friends if that happened..

Idk what it was but I remember that vividly.. and if that was the case.. WOW..

Aeolian Melodies1 votes

What happens when Blitz tries to hook a target with Morg's shield on is that the hand kinda fizzles on the target but does not damage (as it's magic dmg) and won't pull.

Blitz is unable to pull himself towards you so that must've been something else.

Thresh and Leona will still move to you because you can't deny them the part that affects them (movement) but you will not take the CC and dmg.

Mimy1 votes

I see. :) Thank you.

Flash to KS2 votes

Nautilus Velkoz Brand Annie Malphite Xerath

Off the top of my head.

V Khat2 votes

As a support main here are a few. And not just mentioning.

Xerath: You want to lane with someone such as Varus, Jinx, Cait, for their poke will not allow their ADC to farm. As for runes/materies. You may go 21/0/9 or 9/0/21 and for runes I usually run MR, AP and Scaling AP. You can get Movespeed with him. for this build you want 40 CDR. Depending on their comp you might want to get Void Staff and Liandry's. For Boots either Sorc or Swiftness.

In laning phase abuse your passive (mana regen) and spam as much as you can on the ADC but don't stand in their range. Xerath's Q is around 1400 units. One of the longest range skills and no ADC should be able to reach you. You are squishie stand behind your ADC and minions, if they engage Q their support (high CC) then slow their ADC and at that range you should be able to Q safety.

For teamfights, same as the lane actually, stand behind your team, ward around, and you will not initiate, but rather you need to spam your Q on their team. If you get Luden's Echo as well, you should deal a huge amount of damage. Remember to keep your E-R up. Mid game you should be able to cast your Q every 3 seconds. Your W and E should have around 5-7 secs.

Xerath will be extremely annoying and hard to deal will, except 4-5 man gank at early levels. This is why I get movespeedrunes.

Anivia: With Anivia you should get movespeed runes and armor per level + MR per level and of course Magic Pen. For Masteries you can do 0/9/21, 9/0/21 or even 0/14/16. You should build RoA, get Liandry's as well. Zhonya's and probably Abyssal. Or do a troll thing. I build Zhonya's + Guardian Angel and bait the enemy team into killing me while my team is nearby waiting for their CD's. It's a troll bait and it works everytime.

For the ADC, you want someone with some sort of CC and escapes. I would say Lucian, Kalista and Graves will be perfect since they can hop over your wall.

For the laning phase you want to land your Q and then E as much as you can on the ADC. Make sure to ward since Anivia is slow. Sometimes I get teleport on her cause she is freaking too slow to get back in lane.

For teamfights, please as your team to take everyteam fight in to the jungle, that's where Anivia becomes a goddess.

Hope this helps.

BattleOxe1 votes

Leona, morgana

Duke Anax1 votes

leona is a support though.

BattleOxe1 votes

Really? Last time I checked she was tank. Well, looks like RIOT finaly decided she should be played support

Duke Anax1 votes

Im suprised no one has mention this guy yet: Alistar he is my go to botlane Tank.

Aeolian Melodies3 votes

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Im suprised no one has mention this guy yet: Alistar he is my go to botlane Tank.

He's an actual support which isn't what the OP is asking for.

Duke Anax1 votes

Oh, since when does he have a support tag, he used to be just Tank.

Aeolian Melodies1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Duke Anax,realm=EUW,application-id=WEuoGbmp,discussion-id=OQvNhMTq,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2015-09-06T08:02:33.472+0000)

Oh, since when does he have a support tag, he used to be just Tank.

He's had it for a while and even without it he's got a heal, tons of CC and has always been played primarily as a support.

Duke Anax1 votes

That support and that support aren't the same, Blitzcrank is played primarily as a support to, but he is no support.

Aeolian Melodies1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Duke Anax,realm=EUW,application-id=WEuoGbmp,discussion-id=OQvNhMTq,comment-id=00040000000000000000,timestamp=2015-09-06T16:35:59.862+0000)

That support and that support aren't the same, Blitzcrank is played primarily as a support to, but he is no support.

I agree, but having an AoE heal ontop of a buttload of utility = support.

Faith Breaker1 votes

Stop trolling lol, literally everything everyone has said has been troll advice. If you are trying to pick up and learn a role, NEVER try off meta or hip champs/builds. It's like in Super Troopers, training an academy cadet the wrong way, on purpose, as a joke. Learn the right way before you begin to experiment with other stuff. Don't try supports like LeBlanc or Anivia or Xerath, because what they do is the same thing they do mid lane except they dont last hit and usually try to give kills instead of get kills

Real support provide vision, are tanky and durable enough to protect their adc, have not only some form of CC but also engage/disengage/peel . And utility. If you're playing a squishie mage support, don't think just because you have range and a slow or whatever you're actually helping. Because when Leona Zenith Blade's your adc (since these people are telling you to stay behind your adc) you aren't protecting them, and Graves e's up and blows your adc's face off, then your's. Because you're Xerath support when you should not be.

Aeolian Melodies2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Faith Breaker,realm=NA,application-id=WEuoGbmp,discussion-id=OQvNhMTq,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2015-09-06T14:01:19.951+0000)

Stop trolling lol, literally everything everyone has said has been troll advice. If you are trying to pick up and learn a role, NEVER try off meta or hip champs/builds. It's like in Super Troopers, training an academy cadet the wrong way, on purpose, as a joke. Learn the right way before you begin to experiment with other stuff. Don't try supports like LeBlanc or Anivia or Xerath, because what they do is the same thing they do mid lane except they dont last hit and usually try to give kills instead of get kills

Real support provide vision, are tanky and durable enough to protect their adc, have not only some form of CC but also engage/disengage/peel . And utility. If you're playing a squishie mage support, don't think just because you have range and a slow or whatever you're actually helping. Because when Leona Zenith Blade's your adc (since these people are telling you to stay behind your adc) you aren't protecting them, and Graves e's up and blows your adc's face off, then your's. Because you're Xerath support when you should not be.

Annie Elise Fiddlesticks Karma Kayle Kennen Leona Morgana Nautilus Nunu Veigar Velkoz Zilean Zyra Shen all saw competitive play as supports while not being designed as such. As much as the invasion pisses me off, it can't be denied that other roles can step all over actual supports.

Anyone can give vision. It's the players not the champion.

Being a tank isn't a prerequisite to be a support.

Annie Bard Fiddlesticks Janna Karma Kennen Lulu Morgana Nami Sona Soraka Veigar Velkoz Zilean Zyra are or were played extensively as supports and are not tanks. Even Thresh is not a tank by design (no armor or MR growth) he just builds as such.

Supporting is a mentality. I'm a support at heart - I can support you with anything. I'll find a way. However, I do agree that learning support is best done with more traditional options before trying out funky picks. OP is doing it backwards XD

Supporting properly with Brand or Galio is harder than doing it with an actual support. I'd learn the role with these champions before going support LeBlanc or Rammus.

Faith Breaker1 votes

I'll go ahead and repeat myself, and say that you are giving bad advice to someone learning the role. You learn to walk before you learn to run. You're creating a noob trap for the original poster. You are not only still wrong, but you're completely oblivious to how wrong you are. You're ignorant, and miss the point entirely, and blindly will conitinue to think you can somehow convince me to see thing's your way. Your, wrong, way.

You are wrong. Either accept this fact and move on, or get mad and type stuff on a keyboard.

Aeolian Melodies2 votes

I specifically said that I believe one should learn support with actual support champions before going for funky picks, as these are more difficult to do well with reliably.

I actually don't really play "weird" supports myself, I'm a Sona/Janna/Nami main - but considering how vague the definition of support has become, a lot of champions can take the role, as evidenced in competitive play.

You also claimed that a support needs to tank, which is untrue, neither Annie nor Janna can facetank stuff and they are popular even in today's meta. Not so long ago people would've yelled troll at support Morg or Annie... and today they are meta.

Duke Anax1 votes

I actually learned to play support with funky picks (Anivia, Zilean, Gallio mostly), before gravitating to Soraka and Alistar. It forces you to focus on the support role itself rather than the support champs.

Aeolian Melodies1 votes

I'd argue that novice supports who try to support Lux or Galio are more likely to "support" aka try to play the champion as they would in a solo lane, whereas the player who already knows how to support can apply that to a different champion with more ease.

Duke Anax1 votes

Ah that may be the difference I never played them solo lane before, I went straight to support.

Duke Anax1 votes

ah you are the guy that is downvoting everyone in this thread.

Faith Breaker1 votes

The online votes of strangers in a free to play moba's forum matter so much to you. Does each downvote demerit the value of your existance? Check yourself, and realize no one gives the first or last **** about up or down votes, or you. Once you realize none of us care about each other, we can get back to actual game discussion.

Duke Anax1 votes

lol

reboundRainbow1 votes

not learning support, i allready main it, just want some new characters to try out that could also be used as support

Aeolian Melodies1 votes

For poking, most mages can do the trick, especially if they have some CC or utility:

Brand (actually is a thing), Karma (is a thing too) Ekko Fiddlesticks Kennen (again, a thing), Lux Nidalee Lissandra Orianna Syndra Veigar Velkoz (was a thing) Zyra (was a thing too) Elise (was a thing once) Xerath

For kill lane purpose, a lot of tanks and bruisers can do the trick as they can engage, withstand some punishment, and many of them have steroids to deal dmg with little items, or utility to make up for it:

Anivia Chogath Gragas Galio JarvanIV LeeSin Malphite Maokai Pantheon Poppy Rammus Shen (a new thing) Singed Sion Skarner Vi XinZhao Zac Gnar

Some assassins can do (riskier):

Yasuo Zed Rengar Leblanc Fizz Nocturne

Even Ashe can do.

Most important things are:

  1. Know what you are doing
  2. Do it with an actual intention to support and make it work
  3. Make sure your lane partner is willing to work with your weird pick, if he isn't you're honestly better off switching to something more traditional
Icestar11861 votes

I like Malphite and Volibear, myself. I don't play support often enough to have a huge amount of games with them, but they work pretty well.

RisenDarkKnight1 votes

Vel'koz, nautilus, and annie. I practically main nautilus support at this point, it's very strong.

RisenDarkKnight1 votes

Oh and shen and morde "support" are a thing this patch too. So shen is prob a good pick, morde I would not recommend but it seems to work well. He doesn't really have any cc but he has a lot 2 v 2/3 v 3 power and gives you the dragon ghosts.

Aeolian Melodies2 votes

Shen support has been a thing for a couple of patches now.

RisenDarkKnight1 votes

Sorry I wasn't criticizing shen support I was criticizing morde support. That was a bit unclear. Morde works bot with an adc, but I don't think he's a true support, more of a bot lane targon's brace semi carry.

SKOBODO1 votes

Both Nautilus and Annie are strong and easy to play as supports.

Vik4prez1 votes

Though ive never tried it myself ive seen and been told that Sejuani makes for a fantastic support. Pre-6 she has gapclose and CC via her Q, %hp damage and an AoE slow via her W and E, and once she gets 6 her all-in potential is even greater than that of Leona. If you pair a Sej with someone like Ashe or Jinx, who can add their own CC to Sejs, then your opponents are in for a really rough time.

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