Why dont people go sated devourer and phantom dancer on yi? shiv sucks
wouldnt it make sense if you used phantom dancer on
since its basically an unlimited ghost? shiv has worst stats too.
wouldnt it make sense if you used phantom dancer on
since its basically an unlimited ghost? shiv has worst stats too.
Shiv gives you a lot better random things.
1: Better build path. The PD build path is terrible and outdated (specifically due to
), but the Shiv build path gives you an Avarice Blade for some extra gold. It's also cheaper to pick up early for an earlier spike in power.
2: Shiv gives you more flat damage from it's passive. Along with that, it gives you magic damage on a champion built for AD, which is really nice.
3: Despite its passive looking and sounding cool, there are very few situations where PD's passive is going to be the difference between life and death. However, that extra burst from Shiv can actually save your life in duels/fights.
4: This has nothing to do with PD vs Shiv, but if you're building Sated, you get BotRK 2nd. Those two items have insane synergy.
If you're late game, you sell the Shiv for PD, as the flat stats will be more useful. But Shiv is much, much better early.
Also if you are going the Sated route, Yi + Sated = very fast charge stacking. Each AA is 10 stacks. With Sated, he gets 20 stacks every other attack. He also gets 20 stacks every time his passive procs. Plus adding in movement, he can proc SS's passive very quickly, and its usually always up at the start of a fight, giving him good burst damage.
As Yoshi said I'd sell it for PD once you have a full build but its good early.
Let's compare the stats on both of these items:
50% atk speed
35% crit chance
5% movement speed
passive: you don't get creep blocked
40% atk
20% crit chance
6% movement speed
passive: at 100 stacks, your next autoattack procs 100 magic dmg to up to 4 targets. You stack by autoattacking or moving.
I don't know where you're getting the idea that PD is an "unlimited ghost"....... shiv gives you more movement speed and extra dmg from the passive which scales well on yi since hes attacking so often and moving alot. This extra dmg is MAGIC dmg which is more effective against teams that stack armor. Also note that static shiv is 200 gold cheaper than phantom dancer so you reach a powerspike with this item faster than you do with phantom dancer.
If you go for a crit damage build on yi, you should probably get both. If i want huge damage really quick i actually don't go devourer botrk, but instead get the devourer and let my wuju style be enough for bonus damage off that. Then i build shyv, IE, bloodthirster(for limitless sustain, i usually pick up the vampiric scepter earlier though), phantom dancer is next. Then berserkers greaves at some point. The movement speed is cool off of both, and with shyv, i.e., and pd, I've got a very high crit chance, which is good for q. Also the amount of ad i have is higher with this build, so the passive from e is better, and i do more damage with wuju. Sometimes i go warrior with yi too. It's successful. If I'm behind, or just want to do lategame stuff, or have to kill tanks though, i'd go with the botrk devourer build.
I think they get Shiv for:
Not supporting it, but I think those are the main reasons.