Diamond 4, willing to give tips.

Stompkiller·Feb 24, 2015·2 votes·1,074 views

i'll give tips to new players who wants tips on how to play a specific champion or lane. Feel free to add me.

8 Comments

JivvieFeb 24, 20151 votes

Why is this game so focused on Assassin's and why are tanks in such a bad place? Why is over 50% of the champ base hardly ever picked? Why is jungling such a damn chore? Why is Elise so damn bad and so damn fun? Why grind to diamond? This game is terribly unrewarding now. I should just learn an assassin huh?

IcyPepperFeb 24, 20151 votes

Well, to be fair a lot of midlaners ALWAYS take ignite into lane, even if they know they're against Zed. Just take exhaust, that spell is useful as hell.

XelaneFeb 24, 20151 votes

Can you speak more as to why exhaust might be more useful than ignite?

IcyPepperFeb 24, 20152 votes

Exhaust has different uses than ignite, not that ignite isn't useful, but exhaust is better in certain situations.

People constantly complain about Zed, about how he's a lane bully and can delete you in lane at level 6 and all that stuff while being safe. Thing is, Zed uses autoattacks occasionally (like to proc his passive), his shadows is his main escape tool and people complain about his damage and mobility. What does exhaust do?

Ignite deals true damage, which is nice, but exhaust has more utility. People tend to overlook utility for damage when they aren't in the support role (sans teleport for top laners, and flash for everyone). Ignite is typically used as a finishing move to help you snowball, but think about what exhaust does. Can't win trades with Zed? Can't get to Zed even after he wastes his shadow, or especially because?

Exhaust lets you win trades but cutting ALL his damage, his dps, movement speed, AND defenses by a large magnitude. Pull that at the right moment at a 1v1, and it can turn the tide. Lowering both defenses by 10 doesn't sound much like paper, but in early game trades that is a massive advantage.

Not to mention the teamfighting potential. For 2.5 seconds, you can reduce a carry's damage toward your entire team, which can even or change the tide! Ignite's for killing, but exhaust will protect your allies from damage and make it easier for them to kill those pesky carries in the first place! Not to mention that exhaust on an aa-reliant adc makes them practically useless in a teamfight for those precious few seconds! It may not sound like much, but could be valuable (if timed right) in such a skirmish.

Ignite is for getting that last little damage on an opponent and reducing their healing. Exhaust, in my honest opinion, has more uses that helps you AND your team, both offensively and defensively!

(but seriously, think about it: if the mid laner and the support both have exhaust, then exhaust the enemy's two main carries in a teamfight, there goes most of their damage).

XelaneFeb 24, 20151 votes

This seems like a pretty good opportunity for me, as I've been trying to get feedback from some of the diamond/plat players I get it norms games.

I've also sent you a friend request, since you were kind enough to make that offer (I really appreciate this, btw.)

I guess I'll start by saying that I've been a regular player since sometime during season 2. That being said, however, only recently have I actually taken any interest in paying more attention to what separates the decent players from the great ones. I've noticed a few things that I think have really helped, but I can't honestly say what I'm still missing as a player, perhaps it's simply a matter of experience.

So let's see where I might need some help:

1: While I do understand the importance of map awareness, I find myself having a difficult time simply REMEMBERING to check the map. I know you should probably check every 5/10/15 seconds, but for the life of me, I just can't remember to keep doing it. How might I work on remembering to look around for the potential gank coming my way?

2: Lane bullies. I tend to go for champions that have a relatively weak early game for a stronger mid/late game. One that I am particularly fond of atm is Azir . I love just about everything about this champion, and have been trying to get as much experience with him as possible. One of the biggest problems that I've noticed with him is that, in addition to having a very difficult time killing champions (at least for me), he also has a huge issue with being forced out of lane if you're up against a lane bully that manages to get you low enough that you just can't go up to cs your minions without them outright killing you.

So my second question is this: Suppose you're a mid laner, and your champion of choice has a hard laning phase that causes you to get bullied out of lane (Ex. You and your opponent are lvl 4-5 and he has about 500 hp, while you have maybe 200). The wave is roughly in the middle of the lane and your jungler doesn't want to help you (happens to me almost every game). What do you do? Do you just recall and forfeit some of the cs because you'll just die if you try to get them anyway?

3: When exactly is it a good time to do baron? It seems like you want to go for it if you or your team:

Has killed their jungler or any good skirmish champs on the enemy team without dying
Has applied a ton of pressure on the map that almost guarantees that they won't try to stop you, or else they'll risk losing towers/inhibs while they try to stop you or outright lose the game if they should all die
Knows for certain that it isn't warded and can kill it without the enemy team knowing Is this the right mentality for baron? Is there anything you can add on the subject?

4: If you are jungling, at what point and for what reasons would you counter-jungle? I know very little about the subject, and I am reluctant to do it because I feel that if I end up dying in the enemy jungle it could really screw my whole team over.

5: Do you have any advice about last hitting that you can share? Maybe you have a few tips that can help in lane?

That's all I have for the moment

Thank you in advance for your help :)

Shining DawnFeb 24, 20151 votes

#1 Map Awareness, if you rly want to get accustomed to map awareness as in looking at the map every few secs, you can use a rather simple method, look at your mini map after each minion kill, it can be just a glance but its enough to spot a red bubble coming your way from the river

#2 Lane bullies, honestly that depends on the type of champ you are playing, if your champ has any sort of healing ability such as life steal or spell vamp, you might be tempted to stay maybe hug the tower a bit try and heal up, but generally the best time to back is when you have a cannon wave coming into lane as it takes longer to kill it

#3 Baron, well how do you decide when to kill dragon? Same can be applied to the baron timing, if you have just killed their top and jg and you have enough ppl in the top side of the map you can try to do baron, granted that some1 can tank it, if you have taken both top and mid towers you can try and bait a fight at baron since their retreat path has increased, if you win the fight you can get the baron or push the next tower, there are countless more examples, basically every time you seam to have a numbers advantage and good map coverage

#4 Counter jungling, I know very little on the subject as well, but in essence what counter jungling is is taking the advantage from the enemy jungler, if you can guess where the enemy is you can sneak into their jungle and take a camp, now since he doesnt know you killed that camp he will go and check it thinking it is up, he wastes time going over to the camp and realizing thereis none and you get the extra gold for his camp and dont lose time since you got the gold and he didnt

#5 Last hitting, the only advice i can give you is this, when you get in lane hit 1 meele and 1 ranged minion 1ce, just to see how much dmg you can do atm, that way its easyer to guess when you have to hit the minions to kill them, no actual tips come to mind atm all you have to do is decide for your self whether you will play passive or aggressive in lane depending on your lane opponent, and stick to it, if you play the passive role than stand back and farm if an opportunity arises go for it but your main objective is to farm and get as much gold as possible while poking the enemy every now and again, if you intend to play aggressive, than the most important thing you must learn is how much help wards are, you cant play aggressive with no map coverage, basically what you do is stand between the enemy ad the minions so that he cant xp or farm while you farm like a maniac :P

Hope I was of some help to you Best Regards Shining Dawn

StompkillerFeb 25, 20151 votes

You can always try to remind yourself to look at the map. Even after you get ganked, reminding yourself to look at the map trains your brain to eventually look at the map from time to time. It's a slow but worthwhile progress. Sometimes your allies will assist you depending on your ELO that an incoming gank is heading towards your way.
The options varies. If you have summoner spells like Flash and heal, stay under your turret until he pushes the minion waves. you can attempt to outplay him and use your summoner spells. If you do not have any of them up, you can either A) Hauler at your jungler until he actually comes and ganks or B) Recall and force to miss CS/XP
What you listed on the bullets are great, but the best options to do baron is when...

Their jungler or an important champion is dead
Destroyed the enemies inhibitor and they are being forced to push the lane
Have baron pinked at all times and sweep out the wards

Having to do all three is your best bet into guaranteeing a baron buff.

FOUR 4. Myself, I try to avoid counter-jungling the facts of what champions I play. If you play as Shaco Shaco , Jarvan IV JarvanIV , Rek'sai RekSai , and various of other champions then you can counter-jungle. The best bet to avoid being counter-jungler is when:

After defeating Krugs, when you are transitioning towards red buff, ward the brush that is located behind the red brush.
After defeating Gromp, ward behind the blue buff (Does not to be in any brush, just directly behind the wall of blue buff is fine)

If you encounter counter-jungling, immediately leave the area and ping your teammates that the enemy jungler is in your jungle. Depending how things turn out, you can either wait until he leaves and continue to take your buff OR Recall and buy two health pots.

FIVE 5. Last hitting can be a bit tough to do. Usually champions like Jax Jax , Nasus Nasus , Vegiar Veigar , champions that can single targetly guarantee a minion kill because of one or more of their abilities. It determines the base AD on your champion. Taking the mastery BUTCHER under Offensive skill tree can help last hit minions.