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The blind pick role calling issue

Xyexs··5 votes·4,515 views

The league of legends community has made an unofficial rule. In blind pick games the player that types a role in chat first gets to play in that role. It is not perfect, but generally most people get to play something they want to play. One of the problems with this "rule" is that the order that messages are shown in are different for each player. Most players know this, but not all. Alot of the players believe that this happens because other people have higher ping or slower computers than them. It's not quite that simple.

I'll try to explain:

Assuming each player has 30 ping, and Assuming the time to show a message is basically instant, let's say 1 ms for clarity.

**When you send a message**

The message is shown on your screen as soon as you hit enter. That is ~1 ms.

**When your teammate sends a message**
  1. The message is shown on your teammate's screen (1 ms)
  2. The message is sent to the server (30 ms)
  3. The message is sent from the server to you (30 ms)
  4. The message is shown on your screen (1ms) That is 30+30+1 = ~61 ms

When your teammate types 40 ms before you, and the message takes 60 ms to get to you, it will appear as if you were first. On their screen it will look as if they were first.

They way to know who really was first is to ask someone else in the team, both of the messages are affected by ping to them, so there will be no difference. Just make sure not to ask someone who is premade with them.


I didn't know where to put this post, so i put ot what i thought was most fitting, tips and tricks. Sorry if you don't think it belongs here.

Also, vote it up if you like it, vote down if you don't like it, but be sure to tell why below. Discussion is always good :D

Edit: The reason i posted this was simply to help people understand what is happening and not get mad at each other. I dont mind, but as a blind pick player i find alot of people hating each other over roles.

16 Comments

ZombieNinja War1 votes

Till they are in a party then there friend got it first.

IcyPepper1 votes

This is blind pick OP is talking about... nobody cares about duos in blind pick

Serevas2 votes

I imagine what he meant is that if there's a friend in the lobby they'll chime in and give the position to their friend.

Xyexs1 votes

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I imagine what he meant is that if there's a friend in the lobby they'll chime in and give the position to their friend.

Exactly what i meant :D

IcyPepper1 votes

Or do what friends do best and sell them out.

I've only seen one case in hundreds of games where a premade abused roll calling, it's really not something worth complaining about. And considering it's a normal, and if you "can't support," normals are a great way to practice the roles you aren't good at for ranked just in case.

Serevas1 votes

If I play normals I play draft so role calling isn't a problem for me anyway. I'm clarifying the statement that was made.

ZombieNinja War1 votes

yes TY idk how else to put it lol

ZombieNinja War1 votes

i wasn't talking about duo i was talking about 2 people in a party

Amelie1 votes

Or just play teambuilder if you are trying to get a specific role so you avoid that situation...?

I don't get the point of this thread. Someone calls a role, and even if someone says "that guy called it first"... "I don't care I'm playing ____" ... Blind pick will always be like that.

Xyexs1 votes

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Or just play teambuilder if you are trying to get a specific role so you avoid that situation...?

I don't get the point of this thread. Someone calls a role, and even if someone says "that guy called it first"... "I don't care I'm playing ____" ... Blind pick will always be like that.

You are probably right, but i think alot of the time people believe other people are trolling and become angre with other and/or report them.

I haven't been level 30 that long, and i am currently in silver 5, so i'm coming from places where alot of this happens :P

Commit Sudoku1 votes

team builder is a better blind pick but draft pick is best

Xyexs1 votes

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team builder is a better blind pick but draft pick is best

I agree. Team builder queues are so long though :P

Twerkingparadox1 votes

Why don't they implement something that says who got what role first? Like, the client will recognize who said jg first and put their name in the jg spot on who got it first and so on. Then if you want to change it, just trade roles with someone or something.

Xyexs1 votes

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Why don't they implement something that says who got what role first? Like, the client will recognize who said jg first and put their name in the jg spot on who got it first and so on. Then if you want to change it, just trade roles with someone or something.

Probably because riot didnt come up with this. And riot probably doesnt think it is a good way to do things either.

FooDang1 votes

I dunno...you could always...draft pick...

Eric Senpai1 votes

Roles go to whoever locks in first.

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