Darius.......

English Teacher·Sep 7, 2015·1 votes·929 views

Hey everyone, now this might sound dumb but recently i started playing top lane. I have really only ever played support and adc because top lane for me is one of the most annoying/boring lanes to deal with.

However i decided to give it a go, mainly with riven seeing i want to improve my mechanical plays in league at the moment. Now every single game i either vs a Garen or Darius and im just having a tough time dealing with them, like they beat me in lane, and out carry me late game.

Does anyone have any tips that they could give me ??

9 Comments

subfrost22Sep 7, 20151 votes

well usually it depends on your play style. Your used to bot lane which is basically ranged champions. stick with what you are used to and use champions with range what darius or garen cant touch. examples( Teemo Anivia Annie Vayne

English TeacherSep 7, 20151 votes

Thanks, but its not so much that i wanna stick to what im used to. I want to improve myself as a player so that means getting used to melee and ranged champions, that's why im mostly playing Riven. So any tips on dealing with them when playing a melee champion ?

ToasteySep 7, 20151 votes

either play fiora or resign to losing. garen and darius are statistically superior to riven at the moment and you need god mechanics to beat their binary, simple kits. the more fundamental the solution, the more complex the answer must be.

or you could have your jungler camp top 24/7 (note: this doesn't work on garen).

ninjaIRL Sep 7, 20151 votes

Try playing their counters. championselect.net helps greatly.

You can pick Vayne into both of them but only if know how to orbwalk/kite/attackmove and that you're experienced with playing Vayne in other roles like ADC. Until those two are met, don't expect to hardcounter them straight up.

English TeacherSep 7, 20151 votes

Right now im talking more about blind pick, just trying to pick up how different champions work and feel, so its hard to counter pick a champion that i dont even know if im vs them.

Im looking for more tips in lane, over fixing the problem before the game starts.

ninjaIRL Sep 7, 20151 votes

For Garen, you can try avoiding being marked as the villain because his ultimate passive gives him more damage, look it up at lolwikia, here. Try using your slows after he uses his Q because it will cleanse all slows for him. Stick near minions because as of right now, his E (spin) Judgement will deal an extra 33.3% of damage if he is only damaging one target with this ability. You can also harass him so that his passive doesn't happen as often. item 3153 is typically the go to item for tank shredding champions like Garen and Darius. Because both typically stack health. item 3151 is an alternative if the champion you are playing is AP based.

For Darius, you can try avoiding his overall abilities. His passive bleed stacks will increase the damage of his ultimate. 5 is the maximum counter, in which his ultimate (true) damage will deal the most amount of damage. Avoid his Q because it gives him great healing particularly when he is low in health. Look up ability details here. Darius loses kill potential when his hook is on CD.

Most these are kind of obvious things to look for as well.

One tip that applies to all champions is to get a feel of how long their abilities are on CD, allows you gauge how long you have before they have that ability up again. A second tip that applies to all is to engage when their abilities are on cooldown.

OnanThaManSep 7, 20151 votes

Well if you are trying to improve mechanically try someone other than riven. Someone who is punished harder so you learn to not make mistakes as much, at least with me, the harder i get punished for making a mistake on a champ the less i make that mistake, Riven has too much of a safety net for me. Plus Garen and Darius counter riven and are very popular right now, it's kind of a bad time to try and pick her up.

Plus at least with someone like Malphite and Sion who i play top when i go top, they bring disruption and are a meat shield at least if they are behind unlike riven who gets melted and dies.

HEAljvLykdSep 7, 20151 votes

Ban them. That's about all you can do.

karruckSep 7, 20151 votes

kite them...slow if you can keep it at range and punish them if they come in to cs this way you can make them stay near their turret and and lose the lane advantage early. an assist from your jg can help if you can stun darius long enough to null his heal,garen"s early game is meh until he gets his ult then be cautious harass him when you can but again keep him back at his turret make him play your game not his..if you play his game you will most likely lose.so ranged and steady harass and be aware of where your safe boundries are.....hope i got it right but thats my opinion on it