Advice on Getting out of bronze.

Noee·Apr 27, 2015·1 votes·1,071 views

I was ranked in bronze one last season with promos and then with a few matches. I was able to get out to silver 5. But then I created this account. And I got bronze 5. Can anyone tell me about how many matches it would take to get out of bronze. Or someone give me some insight on the ranking system. I know I still have tons to learn. But every ranked match I play I always get someone who puts everyone down and ends up afking. Its always partially my fault. But I would just like to have a better understanding you know? Any and all comments are appreciated. :) Does duo que help? How much lp do you get per match?

17 Comments

ZergReapApr 27, 20152 votes

Your team mates being toxic/afking is out of your control, mute chat if you have too. To climb you need to improve. That's it. Whether it is game knowledge, mechanics or decision making ignore winning and losing; play to learn. I wouldn't recommend duo queuing at least until you are more experienced unless you duo is obviously way better than you, but then you are just getting carried and not learning as much. LP depends on your MMR.

ArmsticeApr 27, 20152 votes

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Your team mates being toxic/afking is out of your control, mute chat if you have too. To climb you need to improve. That's it. Whether it is game knowledge, mechanics or decision making ignore winning and losing; play to learn. I wouldn't recommend duo queuing at least until you are more experienced unless you duo is obviously way better than you, but then you are just getting carried and not learning as much. LP depends on your MMR.

Pretty much this.

I don't generally talk in chat in game, nor do I read it. I could care less if you are pinging baron after killing the enemy support and I'm not going to sit mid for 20 mins after the first tower goes down and have a staring contest with the other team. I'm going to ward, shove, rotate and do whatever else I can to drag attention to myself in attempt to either make a play OR take objectives on my own.

They don't call it solo q because of team dependency.

NoeeApr 29, 20151 votes

Yes, thats something I learned to rely on team dependency. Especially with norms. I need to work on that.

ArmsticeApr 29, 20151 votes

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Yes, thats something I learned to rely on team dependency. Especially with norms. I need to work on that.

After a while you will start to understand when/why you abandon your team to make things happen on your own.

The problem with low level games is that objectives are so greatly undervalued that they quickly turn into team deathmatches. This is fun, but not effective at closing games quickly to continue your climb. More often than not, when choosing between a fight or stopping your split push low elo players tend to take the fight. When the fight ends (depending on the champ/build) more often than not you could have crushed your way into their base.

In a nutshell my bronze climb consisted of this rationale:

Am I getting fed? Yes: Stay in current lane and press my advantage as hard as I can without dieing, this requires wards generally to prevent finding yourself outnumbered quickly. No: Stay calm, and focus on CSing until my team ends the laning phase (this is usually going to happen after Bot tower falls and the team who took it begins a siege mid).
Who scales better? If you scale better it's ok to take your advantage to another than and help them force down their tower, or start roaming into the enemy jungle. If they scale better, I suggest shoving your lane as hard as you can without getting yourself caught in a gank. The idea is to attract as much attention to yourself as possible to allow the rest of your team to gain an advantage or play catch-up.
How effective are team interactions? If in the first few minutes, the jungler attempts a gank with a massive wave at my tower, donates buffs or we give up first blood with out a number advantage causing it, I am going to assume my team isn't capable of carrying themselves and realize I need to get as big of an advantage as I can to close the game asap. Now, if I am mid and the jungler ganks the lane causing the opposing laner to flash and recall, the support and jungler starts heading for the enemy blue I follow and we collect the buff or kill their jungle in the process before flexing the advantage elsewhere, I will probably make a point to work together more.

In league you live and die by judgement, that's why so many folks are like me and can go 10-15 games forcing win after win, but one day you may be tired or just in a bad mood and find yourself in the hole 5-10 games.

Commit SudokuApr 27, 20151 votes

what he said

NoeeApr 29, 20151 votes

this is so freaking true. Some people dont realize that if you shut up we can win! Thanks :3

GundayMondayApr 27, 20151 votes

Win many more games than you lose to climb.

Generic tips for getting out of bronze:

Farm better. Last hit creeps for extra gold. No one in bronze knows how to do this well.
Don't die so much. Every time you die you give the enemy team gold. Don't give the enemy team gold, and make them outplay you.
Towers > Kills. You win the game by taking the nexus. You need to take at least 5 towers to do this.

NoeeApr 29, 20151 votes

Very helpful, yeah when I play with my friends in gold they have hit like 200 cs before i hit 125.

GundayMondayApr 29, 20151 votes

Fix that! Here's a solid guide for getting better. This is super easy if you put in a few mins every day for a week or so: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2090oi/elyndars_guide_to_cs_like_a_challenger_graphic/

TIBBERS R USApr 27, 20151 votes

TIBBERS GUIDE OUT OF BRONZE

IF I CAN DO IT YOU CAN TOO!

Step 1. Pick a Champion you like don't matter what champ it is. Step 2. Played the Champ every game until you feel like the champion is a part of you. Step 3. Once you are comfortable with the Champion, learn the best combo for it to secure kills or assists Step 4. Reduce Death rates, do not be greedy not worth to trade 1 kill for 1 death. Step 5. Learn positioning, which position is best suited for you in team fight where you can do most damage before dying. Step 6. Congratulations you ride that 1 champ to death and now you're gold.

CLG FactorApr 27, 20151 votes

stop trying

AcidDropsApr 28, 20151 votes

You should focus mainly on yourself and your skill. I recommend picking a lane to main and at most three champs that you enjoy and work on them. Spam those champions and improve your individual skill. You could also improve by watching guide videos and highlights as you can break down their mechanics. It also helps that you are passionate with the champion! It will help you win a lot more games even if you have trolls or afks (keep in mind the other team could be going through the same thing with toxics/feeders/afks/trolls/etc.) Sometimes I find muting people help when they are a huge distraction. Keeping a positive mentality throughout the whole game is important as well, and remember to not surrender too early as it eliminates your chance of a comeback. GL getting outa Bronze scrub XD JK JK.

AhurathApr 28, 20151 votes

Get better at the game is the honest answer.

NoeeApr 29, 20151 votes

seriously thank you guys for your helpful tips I appreciate them all. I do need to get better and I will. Fizz

LateCustomerApr 29, 20151 votes

I think you already got some good advice. If I can add some general advice:

-Learn to be patient and even tempered. When laning, just focus on farming, don't push so hard. Let your opponent make mistakes that you can take advantage of instead of giving them the chance to jump on you, or giving the jungler the opportunity to gank you. -Don't go chasing after kills. If you didn't kill your opponent in whatever fight you were in and he's running into his jungle, it's not worth chasing after him. You MIGHT get the kill, or you might walk into a trap. Either way, that's time you could have spent taking an objective (tower, buff, dragon, etc.), or if it's still early laning, that's time you could've kept farming and leveling (those early levels count for a LOT). -Ward. A lot. Vision is king. Buy the vision trinket upgrade (SOOOO worth the 250 gold) and ward the hell out of the map (unless you're the support, or a jungler that can use sight-stone, then upgrade the red trinket and kill all the enemy wards).

Good luck.

TheGrandAllianceApr 29, 20151 votes

Well to answer your question as to how many matches to get to silver.

It depends on how much LP you get per win... assuming you get average of 20 each...

You would have to win 5 times per division (25 matches) and 2 promo matches for 2-4 (so 10 more matches) and 3 to get into silver. So the soonest a 0LP B5 could get into silver would be after 38 straight wins.

Be advised if you ever go on massive win streaks you will get more LP per win (30+) however the promo matches will remain the same.

Of course... if you LOSE any matches you are adding up even more games. Assume you have 50% win rate and the net+- for win/loss is 10.

You would need to play 20 matches per division instead of 5. Therefore to get into Silver you (realistically) need to play at least 113.

There... some complicated math for you Indeed...