How can I get out of bronze

Sxli·Jul 13, 2015·3 votes·5,750 views

Im in bronze 5 and have no doubt that Im there due to my low skill level.

With that in mind, ive worked very very hard on improving. I picked a role and stuck to it, working on all the ins and outs of it. I picked adc because I enjoy the role and can carry decently from there. I regularly practice csing and positioning so I dont die but can still put out a lot of damage and help out in fights. I ward pretty often, so even if my support doesnt, we have good vision of the map.

Ive managed to climb up to my promos for bronze 4 for the 6 or 7th time and today, immediately first pick goes "feed or feed" and locks in blitz, we all try to joke around, not really thinking hes gonna feed, (I was soo beyond wrong). Poppy and blitz kept trying too 1v5 and raged a lot. But I tried to focus on things I could do to help. I got gangplank fed and he did pretty well and me and him were able to do a little, but it wasn`t enough.

I lost the game, and partially that was to being caught out twice. I know I could have positioned better. and cs`d and ect.

Im so very tired of being in bronze, I dont want to be stuck here. I don`t believe in elo hell, and I know there has to be something I can do to get out of here. Any advice or help would be appreciated. I need to win these next two promos.

44 Comments

RiotPhreakJul 13, 201510 votes

I would say there are 3 big things:

Your general mechanics and gameplay. You say you're already consistently working on these, so that's good. But as a specific question: In a 1v0 game, how often do you get 100cs at 10 minutes? Every time? Rarely? Being able to get a ton of farm is a really big deal. This goes hand-in-hand with your teamfight positioning, as making sure you're using that gold is a big deal.
General map play. A big farm of getting gold is not letting minion wave die for free. You should be getting 200cs at 20 minutes, 300cs at 30. That's not realistic for every single game you play, and even the pros don't get that all to often. But if you're at 120cs in a 30 minute game, that's 100% on you. Don't lose out on the gold and experience minions give. You have to learn to balance that with joining your team for fights, but as an ADC this is important. Also, don't get caught out. Any time you die, it's your fault. In a team fight? Probably bad positioning. In lane? Didn't see the gank coming. In the middle of the map? Shouldn't have been out in front.
Minor shot-calling. Players generally are able to understand a good idea when they see it. If you ace them, you're all full health, and you ping Baron, everyone'll go "Oh yeah! We can Baron!" and probably follow you. Don't give up opportunities like that.

SquishyArchonJul 13, 20151 votes

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I would say there are 3 big things:

Your general mechanics and gameplay. You say you're already consistently working on these, so that's good. But as a specific question: In a 1v0 game, how often do you get 100cs at 10 minutes? Every time? Rarely? Being able to get a ton of farm is a really big deal. This goes hand-in-hand with your teamfight positioning, as making sure you're using that gold is a big deal.

General map play. A big farm of getting gold is not letting minion wave die for free. You should be getting 200cs at 20 minutes, 300cs at 30. That's not realistic for every single game you play, and even the pros don't get that all to often. But if you're at 120cs in a 30 minute game, that's 100% on you. Don't lose out on the gold and experience minions give. You have to learn to balance that with joining your team for fights, but as an ADC this is important. Also, don't get caught out. Any time you die, it's your fault. In a team fight? Probably bad positioning. In lane? Didn't see the gank coming. In the middle of the map? Shouldn't have been out in front.

Minor shot-calling. Players generally are able to understand a good idea when they see it. If you ace them, you're all full health, and you ping Baron, everyone'll go "Oh yeah! We can Baron!" and probably follow you. Don't give up opportunities like that.

How's that jungle Sivir lately Phreak?

RueianJul 13, 20151 votes

In solo queue, i disagree on shot-calling, maybe a ping here and there, but making calls generally falls on deaf ears unless you are the jungle and are making calls for jungle objectives, but when it comes to towers, people just do their own thing so you kinda have to baby sit based on their movements.

SxliJul 13, 20151 votes

Was really not expecting having a rioter respond to this.

But I think the biggest thing I could work on is csing even better, and conveying my thoughts to others. I often think "Hey we made their bot lane recall, lets go get dragon" or "Dont chase, we made them back, just farm" To me that`s intuitive but I forget not everyone thinks the way I do, so shot-calling is a big thing for me.

I really wanna thank everyone that responded to this though, you guys are all really helpful.

DeclinedJul 13, 20151 votes

Hello Phreak

I wrote this a while back, and down at the bottom I added a bunch of links, 2 of those are in regards to your rune pages for 2014 and 2015, just wondering if that's okay with you? http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/tips-tricks/64VFYEZy The version I posted on the EU boards got stickied.

I've been waiting for ages till you actually posted a thread with the right topic so I wouldn't railroad it.

Dextix LTJul 13, 20154 votes

You need more tons of damage.

GetattorexJul 13, 20151 votes

I just want to say i read that with your voice haha keep rocking Phreak #PhreakWin

Duke AnaxJul 13, 20152 votes

One of the most important facts that a lot of ADC forget:

It's your job to kill towers, not people.

Summoenrs rift is won by taking Towers, Inhibitors and finally Nexus, nothing else. And ADC are best suited to do that.

Sure if there happens to be a fight and you get a kill great, but don't go looking for the fight. It's more important to stay alive and kill minions so you can get to the tower.

Also if you manage to kill your opponent and are low on health don't emediately recall, push until they respawn, then recall.

Im your junglerJul 14, 20152 votes

i've been stuck in bronze for 2 years now, i posted something a while ago and people really helped me as im climbing out of bronze now here are some tips: 1st of all try to get all the cs you can ( sometimes you cant as you may face a good supp who want let you farm) , 2: if you get like 3 kills in your lane dont just keep pushing , go and help others who are losing their lanes that way you might gets them back to the game , 3: if you get people who go 1 vs 5 try to make your team follow them and go in a team fight that way they wont feed anymore as you may actually win that fight , 4 : tell your jg to ward the enemy side of the map that way they'll get caught and give you an easy kill , 5 : objectives, get objectives whenever you get a chance , dont waste your time on chasing kills and do not rage it will make things worse and dont give up , it took me 4 promos to get to b3 and now i lost my b2 promos so it happens , youll get trolls and bad players but eventually if u're good enough youll get out of bronze, gl.

TheSkillistJul 13, 20151 votes

If you aren't playing duo queue depending on a random support is kinda eh farfetched.. i was b5 three times and climbed out. Mid lane and jg are two of the easiest roles to carry low elo. pick a high snowballer or someone with a good team fight. annie comes to mind she destroys... fiora top helped me climb out albeit i main top lane and she snowballs like crazy.. but you get the idea and forcing early objectives.. if it's not your skill pick a lane where you can shine.. you shine at that role. and force objectives with your lead. make it so the other team can't come back.

SxliJul 13, 20151 votes

I can adapt and play well with most supports (just not morgs). Im really just tired of being stuck here for 2 seasons. First time I knew I was bad, so I wasnt expecting much. But I have worked SO hard on getting better and improving my knowledge of champs and win conditions and mechanics(cs, positioning, ect.)

As vayne (i`ve worked the hardest with her, as I enjoy difficult champs) I can 1v2 bot lane. Albeit i wont get any kills, but I also wont feed or fall too behind in cs. I may be behind like 10-15 cs.

I just really want to get better and out of bronze. I know silver isnt much better, but at least ill have something to show of the countless hours of practice and work I`ve put in...

hh the thinkerJul 13, 20151 votes

with vayne, there is a lot you can do (talking about vayne since you say you practiced a lot with her).

you can max Q for easier laning and better poke and positioning. (if you max Q, it's often best to get IE first item since Q damage goes well with it.)

while laning, you want to look for when other laners walk too close or too far up into your minion wave and poke them down. unless they have a very strong advantage, your poke without taking minion aggro vs their poke with them taking minions aggro will often make you even or win the trade.

try to rush to level 2 before the other laners. if they get level 2 first, often they can abuse you hard in lane, but if you get it first, it makes for a much safer early game laning phase.

SxliJul 13, 20151 votes

I generally rush bork + boots then ie. I max Q against people like blitz supp, jinx, lucian, graves, cait and ashe. But if I`m maxing Q I like to go vamp scepter, boots, then Ie and finish off bork 3rd.

hh the thinkerJul 13, 20151 votes

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I generally rush bork + boots then ie. I max Q against people like blitz supp, jinx, lucian, graves, cait and ashe. But if I`m maxing Q I like to go vamp scepter, boots, then Ie and finish off bork 3rd.

often it's best to go bork and then PD with boots in between instead of the IE. reason being is more silver bolts and more DPS, but the IE gives more burst damage and if you like that, it's not bad.

often in bronze (this is for adc in general, not just vayne), there are a lot of chances to poke down the other laners without taking any to much poke. you can try to poke by auto and then Q and then back off. even if you don't get the three bolts off, if they back off or don't auto back, you won the trade there since they really didn't trade back. if you manage to poke the others laner out of lane, you get a cs lead. if they stay really low, you can kill them or make them miss cs under tower or zone them away from it.

being able to cs, dodge skill shots and poke whenever free is what you need to be able to do if you are adc.

SxliJul 13, 20151 votes

I can dodge skill shots with any adc but jinx and ashe. When I play those champs, a blitz grab and nid spear might as well be targeted abilities, because I just can`t seem t dodge well with them.

I try to trade when the enemy is last hitting because it screws with their timing and they fall behind more and more.

PD is my favorite item on vayne along with the furor enchant, QSS and bork.

LaowPingJul 13, 20151 votes

Not sure about Ashe but Jinx has low movement speed which is why she's easier to hit. She's known as being a immobile ADC. Jinx requires a lot of positioning in order to keep herself safe because if someone jumps on her it's hard to do much about it. Her range is good though so it is possible to poke from range as long as you mind your spacing. Also, I might be the only one but I prefer maxing W on vayne. Mechanics are extremely important on Vayne (and ADCs in general) so you should try to get used to orb walking. When ever I'm in lane I move back and forth around minions so that I'm never standing still. I still make sure to stay behind the minions but it helps me get used to attacking, moving, attacking, rinse and repeat.

hh the thinkerJul 13, 20151 votes

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Not sure about Ashe but Jinx has low movement speed which is why she's easier to hit. She's known as being a immobile ADC. Jinx requires a lot of positioning in order to keep herself safe because if someone jumps on her it's hard to do much about it. Her range is good though so it is possible to poke from range as long as you mind your spacing. Also, I might be the only one but I prefer maxing W on vayne. Mechanics are extremely important on Vayne (and ADCs in general) so you should try to get used to orb walking. When ever I'm in lane I move back and forth around minions so that I'm never standing still. I still make sure to stay behind the minions but it helps me get used to attacking, moving, attacking, rinse and repeat.

I enjoy the max W, as do most I believe. Q max is actually less common.

SxliJul 13, 20151 votes

Here is my opgg if anyone wants to look at it and maybe come up with ideas of what i`m doing wrong http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Sxli

hh the thinkerJul 13, 20151 votes

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Here is my opgg if anyone wants to look at it and maybe come up with ideas of what i`m doing wrong http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Sxli

first thing I look for is trinket, either trade and then upgrade or just upgrade it. as just the first trinket, you ward a lot less then when it's upgraded and wards do help so you don't need to face check later on. even better for facechecking bushes or checking baron/drags, get the blue trinket. if there is something like rengar, then you can get red trinket. I see you upgrading in some games when it should be upgraded in almost to all of your games.

I do see you do change some games, but you should upgrade it when you get to level 9 when you can.

at 10 minutes into your graves game, you had 45 cs. this is really low, even in a hard lane. if the lane was free, you can get 90 about, and if hard, 60 and up is ok. if you get under 60 often enough, you might want to improve on this. took you until the 20 minute mark to get to 100 cs which is half still of what you could be at if you are csing really well. at 20 minutes, you want between 150 to 180 about.

the sivir game is also fairly close to the same cs. just pointing out more than one game it's happening in.

besides that, it's hard to tell without actually watching.

SxliJul 13, 20151 votes

With the graves game a few things happened that were my fault. A. I got caught out by alistar a few times ( i didnt die but had to back) B. Kat came bot and I didnt have vision in the tri bush so she got a free kill from blitz and just stayed in lane for a while and just gave me a hard time. C. I was on tilt.

The only good thing I can say about that game is my positioning was on point for the most part.

But yea my cs was awful, and I usually forget to upgrade my trinket even if I have the gold, I need to work on that. I have a lot of trouble trying to cs on tilt, I know when to attack I just cant do it.

hh the thinkerJul 13, 20151 votes

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With the graves game a few things happened that were my fault. A. I got caught out by alistar a few times ( i didnt die but had to back) B. Kat came bot and I didnt have vision in the tri bush so she got a free kill from blitz and just stayed in lane for a while and just gave me a hard time. C. I was on tilt.

The only good thing I can say about that game is my positioning was on point for the most part.

But yea my cs was awful, and I usually forget to upgrade my trinket even if I have the gold, I need to work on that. I have a lot of trouble trying to cs on tilt, I know when to attack I just cant do it.

first thing to do is take breaks so you don't tilt. take breaks if you win or lose, just takes breaks every once in a while, it really does help a lot. I would actually watch you play and help more, but I don't even have time to play myself lately. when I get some free time, I might help you more, but that might not be happening for a few days still.

another thing you can do is watch high ranked streamers and compare what they do with what you do and try to spot their mistakes and why they do what they do. basically study their playing.

SxliJul 13, 20151 votes

I tried just keeping bot lane warded (game I just recorded) and it worked wonders. It was brilliant. Udyr couldn`t gank and I had vision of everything so even when we started pushing, I could see where the enemy bot lane was most of the time.

PiRoScOuTJul 13, 20151 votes

there are a couple videos that I will link below which helped me climb to gold

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkTbLLYkHYY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIN_14XLO_E

SxliJul 13, 20151 votes

Ive seen both of those and theyve helped me become more consistent in my laning (before i`d have really great games or just feed) now I play fairly consistently even on tilt.

JustCallMeSpudJul 13, 20151 votes

A few suggestions you might find useful. *record a game that you're in and watch yourself on the replay. It makes it much easier to see errors you've made. *winning your lane might not be enough. Get dragons, early, with your jungler and maybe mid. Those bonuses help your whole team snowball, and shut down the other team. Also, try to gank nearby lanes if you're winning your lane hard enough. *consider if it's worth getting your preferred role. You need to have some level of ability at all roles. Maybe someone else is a better adc and a worse support, so you'd improve your chances of winning by NOT playing your main. *watch aphromoo's "support is so easy" on youtube. The items are dated, the strategy isn't. 100% worthwhile.

SxliJul 13, 20151 votes

Im fairly decent at all roles. If I had to rate my proficiency; itd go Adc, support, jungle, ,mid, top. With top though, I just dont know when to do tp ganks so I generally take ignite instead unless im playing a splitpush champ.

Do you know of any recording software that wont make me lag in game or drop my fps? If you do i`ll be happy to try to criticize my gameplay.

Im seriously committed to getting better and im ready to try almost any suggestion.

hh the thinkerJul 13, 20151 votes

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Im fairly decent at all roles. If I had to rate my proficiency; itd go Adc, support, jungle, ,mid, top. With top though, I just dont know when to do tp ganks so I generally take ignite instead unless im playing a splitpush champ.

Do you know of any recording software that wont make me lag in game or drop my fps? If you do i`ll be happy to try to criticize my gameplay.

Im seriously committed to getting better and im ready to try almost any suggestion.

right at the start of a game, there is a record option on op.gg for your game.

SxliJul 13, 20151 votes

Hmm im gonna go try it out in normals and see if I notice any performance issues then ill send it to you and you can skim over it to see if you see any really bad mistakes.

hh the thinkerJul 13, 20151 votes

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Hmm im gonna go try it out in normals and see if I notice any performance issues then ill send it to you and you can skim over it to see if you see any really bad mistakes.

I will watch once I'm free to, you won't even need to send it, if you record your games, I will will some (again, once I'm free to). I can even add you on league once I'm mostly to completely free.

hh the thinkerJul 13, 20151 votes

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Hmm im gonna go try it out in normals and see if I notice any performance issues then ill send it to you and you can skim over it to see if you see any really bad mistakes.

ok, a few things. in the start at level 1, ali was able to just walk up to you and you were focusing on csing too much and not poking him when he walked up to you. you can give up some cs in order to poke when needed. you also missed a lot of easy cs in the first 10 minutes which is why your cs tends to be a bit low.

later on, your positioning needs a bit of work. you died twice from standing next to yasuo, you want to stay at max auto range as much as possible, if not farther.

there was a time in the game where you ran next to yasuo because you were focusing ali. focus the closest unless it's completely safe to do this.

draven vs vayne, draven wins for a long time in this match up unless a gank comes in or draven really messes up. you don't want t 1v1 him or 2v2 him for a long time. when hecarim came in within about the 5 minute mark, you didn't join the engage. not sure if you are playing locked screen (if you play locked screen, time to practice without) or you just happened to miss it, but your awareness could be better.

I just went over things quickly, but these were the main things I saw in the vayne game.

SxliJul 13, 20151 votes

Yea immediately after I q`ed in I knew I made a mistake by getting too close to yas a few times. I watched it over myself a few times, and in some instances my positioning was spot on in fights and others, it was horrid. So I would like to become more consistent in that regard.

So I think I need to just spam normals and focus on cs and trades in the early while taking notes on my positioning in the mid-late game.

I do play on locked screen, and i`m slowly trying to adjust to semi-locked then unlocked.

I really appreciate you watching the gameplay.

I watched some of gosu and imaqtpie`s older streams last night and I took notes on random little things they do. I noticed that they position to where if the supp tries to attack, they get assaulted by the minions. I also learned gosu tilts harder than I do xD

shadecrapperJul 13, 20151 votes

A lot of it is mentality to be honest. You cant rely on teamates, you have to carry them. You kind of have to tell them what to do, how to do it, and in a nice way. Some games you will just lose, but if you focus and have fun while learining from ever loss you should climb out. It will take time, it took me 4 months to go form B5 to B1. I was 2 games away from getting to silver, then tilted really hard lol. Like went all the way back to B4 hard. That 20 game losing streak :(. I started blaming the team and not my self, giving up at the slightest set back, and the biggest thing was that I stopped having fun. If you literally do the opposite of this you will climb. I believe

PiRoScOuTJul 13, 20151 votes

I use this website as well, it gives a lot of good info on champions and lanes, and you can see where you should be http://lol.arenaonline.com/

KecinJul 13, 20151 votes

well i climbed out of bronze just by out csing everyone literally no one can cs in bronze its insane just get good cs and ull reach full build before anyone and u can 1v5 on a hyper carry

DeclinedJul 13, 20151 votes

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It is my experience that skill/ranking is determined by a number of factors:

Mechanics (How well you can control your champion)

Game knowledge (knowing when to go in, and when not to)

You can't blame people for not knowing what they don't know, your best chance is to provide that information.

Sense of long term strategy vs short term tactics.

Attitude

Blaming everyone around you, creating a negative experience forcing people to focus you, rather than the game.

How well you 'play with others'

Focus on yourself and not making mistakes.

Knowing what TILTING means.

Dunning-Kruger effect.

Luck of the draw.

I could elaborate on the Game knowledge part, and i should probably add awareness as well, such as map awareness, Dragon/baron timers, ult cd, opponents health/mana, summoner spells and so on.

No I wrote this a while back, it should give you a decent understanding of the game mechanics and principles. http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/tips-tricks/64VFYEZy

SxliJul 13, 20152 votes

Im pretty good at not blaming people for my mistakes, but I think my biggest problem is expecting everyone to know the same things I do, (who to focus, what we should prioritize) but my last 2 games ive made it a point to A. Upgrade my trinket and use it. B. Communicate information I know to my teammates in a friendly way..

So far this has helped a lot and my teams have responded really well.

Bethor KookalianJul 13, 20151 votes

1.I applaud your humble approach.

2.You sit on an unupgraded yellow trinket FAR too often. Either upgrade to the better yellow and help with warding, switch to blue(I like upgraded blue, but blue is the only reasonable trinket to not upgrade, but only get on ADCs) or get red(upgraded red helps duel against stealth targets). If you look at my ranked history, I have at least a 90% trinket upgrade rate, and at least half of my unupgraded trinkets are games where it simply ended right around level 9-10, and thus, upgrading wasn't really an available option.

3.In your last ranked game, you bought Pickaxe+BFS instead of LW. This is a flatout mistake.

4.You overpriotize BT+IE over BT+LW or IE+LW in your 3 items + boots build. Its sometimes worth building IE+BT, but not as often as you seem to do so. Generally, the rule of thumbs about this are to build a BFS-item(BoRK counts on some ADCs as a BT alternative) into a Zeal-item-equivalent(Ghostblade counts) into a LW into either your other BFS item or a defense item into whichever you didn't buy fourth. Triforce carries work roughly the same way, but go Zeal->BFS->LW instead, counting Triforce as a zeal-item. Corki, Kalista and Ezreal are just weird, but they'll at least function reasonably utilizing these builds even if they're better built other ways.

5.Don't build sunfire cape on supports unless you've built Randuin's and Frozen Heart already and still need an HP/Armor combo-item. And even then, you should probably build Ohmwrecker instead.

6.Your last Thresh game, you're sitting on Relic Shield all game with a sightstone. Dude, buy Face of the Mountain. Its really good, really cheap, and helps your gold income.

7.Play fewer champions in ranked. You're more eclectic than I am, but you've got less than 400-500 games played, ever, compared to my ~5000. You simply don't have the experience to afford that level of variety. Trim the list and focus on a few champions that you enjoy playing, and play them as exclusively as you can in their roles.

SxliJul 13, 20151 votes

Thanks for the response.

I do forget to upgrade my trinket fairly often so I wrote a note and have placed it on the corner of my screen. It says "Upgrade your trinket by lvl 10"

For that last ranked game, I was on tilt. I know that`s no excuse, but all in all, I made lots of bad decisions that game and I know that.

I generally only get LW against teams with 2 or more tanks, but I do think learning to prioritize it would do me better in the long run.

With supports, I have the same problem as with my yellow trinkets. I just always forget to even upgrade it, so I agree that fixing that would probably make me more effective as a support.

In ranked I try to go by this champion pool (I think I followed Phylos video in making it) It basically has 3-5 champions im confident with in each role. My total pool of champs Im confident enough to ranked with is 29. So I try to keep it pretty narrowed, but I think im afraid of being banned out of champs im good with (I know this is really stupid and illogical.)

Bethor KookalianJul 14, 20152 votes

About Last Whisper:

https://www.reddit.com/r/summonerschool/comments/2zy4rq/do_you_always_have_to_buy_lw_as_an_adc/cpnq23h

Summary: A last whisper gives 40 AD and a +15.8%....+30% damage multiplier, depending on how much armor your target has. In the worst case, a level 18 Caitlyn with IE and AD runes will get roughly the same damage increase as buying BT, but for a 1200g discount. Buying vamp scepter doesn't change this calculation of DPS priority. Literally the only reason to buy BT over LW 3rd item is if you NEED the shield. That worst case is an Orianna with no armor runes and without her own ball at level 18. Late-game armor values simply do not get much lower.

SxliJul 14, 20151 votes

Ive never thought about it like that. I guess I always just ignored the fact that champions have naturally scaling armor per level. But what do you think about buidling ![item 1053](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.21.1/img/item/1053.png) just for the lifesteal (its saved my arse quite a few times) then going ahead with item 3035

hh the thinkerJul 14, 20151 votes

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Ive never thought about it like that. I guess I always just ignored the fact that champions have naturally scaling armor per level. But what do you think about buidling ![item 1053](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.21.1/img/item/1053.png) just for the lifesteal (its saved my arse quite a few times) then going ahead with

often a build would be like this with lets say cait:

item 3031 ( item 3046 or item 3087 ) item 3035 ( item 3072 or item 3153 in some rarer cases, like if they stack health) item 3006 and one defence item. the defence item can be QSS, GA or banshee, but often you will only need to get one. BT can also be considered defensive.

the main items you want with cait are the IE and the PD (unless you need the wave clear and you only poke once in a while) and the LW (you also need boots so that's 4 items so far). cait works well with flat ad so BT isn't bad, and the last item can be either defence or offence (it's often defence to help you stay alive).

Bethor KookalianJul 20, 20151 votes

If you're going IE over BT, yeah, you can sit on a item 1053 just fine while building towards your item 3035 . Its a DPS loss, but if you need lifesteal, you need lifesteal.

Kei143Jul 14, 20151 votes

try games with map awareness practice (typically easiest done on a support role or jungle). Buy a few wards and then start talking to yourself in the game in regards to the position of the people that are MIA, you can even do that for your team mates !! Although you ahve vision of them, but its still good practice.

It doesn't matter if you win or loose, cos the point is the gain map awareness. How long does it take to move from one lane to another from just simple walking? How long does it take from red/blue to your bot lane ? Just call them out and see how close you are.

Improving map awareness helps all roles you are in, it might be a bit harder when you have to look at the mini map and still focus on CS, but if you can ping one of your team mates to back out when you can see a gank coming (and they don't, hopefully they respond to your pings), that is an indirect carry through information flow. Which is how we support mains carry.

Coming from a bronzie support main, but I know this has helped me get out of low bronze. I did see my death count reduce as well. Its a skill that sticks with you once you learn it.

SxliJul 14, 20151 votes

I already talk to myself more than I`d like to admit while playing xD If I see Like a Vi jg, and she starts top (You know shes probably starting top because the top laner will be late to lane by about a wave of cs.)

So i`ll say "Vi started topside, I can expect to be ganked between 3:15-5:00 as thats the typical time most junglers clear bot side if they start top and vice versa.

Same thing if I see mid or top dissappear, I try to take note of where they were running towards so I kind of know whwere to expect them to be