Intermediate Bots

BurritoBomb12·Apr 25, 2015·3 votes·1,257 views

There are probably going to be a lot of troll answers but here we go

So I am fairly new to the game (about a week into the game) and I have been farming bots (beginner bots that is) and so I thought I would try Intermediate bots but I have a problem of getting minion kills without taking a fist full of damage to the face by the bots

Also I have been struggling then to get bot kills because i am under leveled and without items to aid me

I normally play as Riven and Garen (But trying to learn how to use Ahri and Zyra) If you have any Tips on what to do please feel free to let me know also and builds for these champions would help a lot

I have asked a level 30 in a game once and he said as long as you don't feed there easy

15 Comments

aaronautumnApr 25, 20153 votes

maybe we can do a game together where u sit in a bush and watch how i farm.

BurritoBomb12Apr 25, 20153 votes

Sure Sounds good would you like to add me

aaronautumnApr 25, 20152 votes

sure, i'll probably be available to play in about an hour. is that ok?

BurritoBomb12Apr 25, 20152 votes

LegendaryLemurApr 25, 20152 votes

One quick tip that made a world of difference to me when i was just starting (you may already know this; also this will apply more to melee champs than ahri/other ranged champs):

If you attack an enemy champion, the minions will attack you. So say you run up to get a minion and the opponent attacks you. Be aware that if you start to fight back, all his minions will attack you too. This doesn't matter much late game, but early game minion damage is substantial.

So the strategy should be wait for a minion to get low, time it so you run up hit it once and kill it, and then back off. With someone like riven you have various tricks to get in and out and shield yourself, but you'll figure that out over time.

Matthias9119Apr 25, 20152 votes

The Intermediate bots are MUCH more aggressive. They also have level 30 runes and masteries, so if you're not at least level 20 that can hurt early game. You'll still get full IP/XP from beginner bots until level 20, so it's fine to just keep playing those for a while.

If you're melee against a ranged champ, you have to play cautiously in lane. Once you get ahead you can usually keep snowballing against the bots, but you have to know how to play against them.

5000000000000000Apr 25, 20152 votes

In top lane 1v2, you pretty much give up on farm early on unless you're ranged or have ranged spell that has low mana cost. Just by staying in lane you get level advantage, and you try and kill them before they back. That should get you ahead in gold.

Faith BreakerApr 25, 20152 votes

I think some good advice would be while you're still in the early stages of learning this game (Grats on chosing bots over pvp to do this!) would be to go into other roles. Try to go mid with a champ with ranged abilities or attacks. Go bottom with a high dmg ranged auto attack reliant champ. Or try to be the support role where your focus is to guard and protect and help your team, and, not so much as attacking the enemy yourself or farming for gold and xp.

Supports usefulness comes more in the form of what they do and the utility they bring, they don't rely on building attack dmg or ability power to be useful, so the items they buy are cheaper and more in line with the reduced gold income. Remember, as a duo bot lane, the less gold and xp you get as the support, the more gold and xp it means for your ad carry.

disregardableApr 25, 20151 votes

It's okay to keep playing beginner bots if the intermediate ones are too hard. It's a little hard to discourage the bots from attacking you when you're not ranged- basically, as long as they think you won't hurt them, they'll try to attack you. If you have someone in lane with you, wait for when the bots are not focusing you, and then engage on one of the bots together. Back off when they start hurting you (if you can't kill one), and then repeat the process. Once they won't bother you, THEN you can farm peacefully :P

BurritoBomb12Apr 25, 20151 votes

Thank you all so much

Do you guys play much of these champions if so would be nice if you guys could help me out with some builds other than the recommended although they are usefull

DMouseslayerApr 25, 20152 votes

Riven should go item 1036 item 2003 x3 at start item 3134 item 1001 first back at same time if you can, but get first item 3077 into item 3074 next with item 3158 when you can item 3035 is next turn into item 3142 or item 3071 depending on what you need, build the other next, then a item 3026

Garen should go really tanky with health so like item 1054 or item 1029 item 2003 x5 start item 3751 first backish along with item 1001 then item 3068 and item 3143 when you can, then item 3065 or item 3083 depending on your opponents, if magic damage is more common go visage, if not, warmogs, but both are good choices either way as for damage item 3134 and its upgrades are all you'll need. for boots go item 3158 or item 3047 or item 3111 depending on if you need more CD, or more armor or more MR/Tenacity

I don't really play that much AP mids so IDK about Ahri

Also, these builds are just basic bot game builds, they are so easy you can't really go wrong. If you want more tips go to the League of Legends Wiki and check out their strategy pages on each champion, they will help a lot. A lot has to do with what you're against. Like Riven, if you were against a rumble a item 3155 would be a good idea. Just learn the game and try new things.

Sona PingApr 25, 20151 votes

I guess that leaves me for Ahri then.

The recommended items for champions are solid, all of them are good for the champion at one time or another. It's the reason why even veteran players frequently still use it as a shortcut for their common items. (Except for Machete upgrades; Poacher's Knife is still recommended for some junglers) A good next step is to learn what the items do and what situation they are for. Don't worry if it takes you a while, but knowing how to make a good item choice is going to be a huge step up over other players when you are more experienced.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/League_of_Legends_Wiki This is the League wiki, if you haven't found it yet. This is a great site, because you can look up all those items, but more importantly it keeps track of the current numbers for all the champion's abilities. Go click on the portraits for Ahri, Riven and Garen. You can see the exact numbers and ratios for all their abilities so you can learn which to level and when.

Now to Ahri. The recommended start items are great. There's few situations I can think of where you wouldn't start Doran's item 1056 . Sorcerer's Shoes are the standard upgrade for Ahri, but you don't have to rush them. It's fine to keep them at item 1001 while you pick up items. The only thing is that a new player might be confused by is how it has item 3165 under "Essential" and item 3174 under "Offensive". It's really a choice of one or the other as appropriate, not both as it may lead someone to believe. You would want to choose one of them for your Mana Regeneration needs. Luden's Echo item 3285 has been added as an additional 120 AP choice for mages after the removal of the Deathfire Grasp. It's not listed on the recommended page but it is a viable pick up for Ahri that is not an item with niche use.

Feel free to reply if you have any questions.

Angry MonsterApr 25, 20151 votes

This is harder than you think. Part of the laning phase is understanding how to trade and CS. Also depending on the lane bots are not going to teach you every well. Top lane in bots is a duo when in real games its a solo lane.

There is certain behavior for minion agro that will also tigger if you hit the enemy next to there creeps. Alot of early game damage can come from creeps.

I have no idea what level of understanding you have of the game from your post. Are you even in the right lane? ect. wish i could say more but maybe someone else can help you more.

BlueclawsApr 25, 20151 votes

I would say bots tend to be overly aggressive at times too.

Nick ValentineApr 26, 20151 votes

I would avoid these bots. They are absolutely horrible to play against because their casting is super accurate. I will say I proudly have over 1k bot games lol.

Amumu Loves to jump you with his team. And I mean jump you like 4 on 1. Very frustrating and unrealistic because in pvp, people will not waste so much on one person late game.

Nunu Another jumper that times his slows and speed boosts extremely well.

Nasus If you don't deal with this one early you are doomed. The bot has near perfect cs tactics and at 30 mins in will have near perfect stacks.

Lux Ashe The worst two bots if they get a tanky team. Unlike Ezreal both of them tend to use their ults for sniping and if they have a front line of the bots above, they will send homing missiles from across the map when you get jumped to last hit you. Very frustrating.