ADVANCED DIAMOND MINDGAMES ITT (Minimap Usage)

Sweagen·Jun 12, 2015·1 votes·744 views

[12:47] Sweagen: yea i figured out some mindgames ppl glance at the minimap right to see positions of champs and whether they are in danger of a gank and bot glances at the map towards mid to see if mid is playing up forwards which usually means their ungler was around so i figure if u walk way up the lane when ur jungle is about to gank bot u can mindgame their glancing and make the gank more likely to succeed in solo q [12:48] jaydaman11: :O [12:48] Sweagen: ye pretty cool huh [12:48] jaydaman11: i feel like that's only applicable in certain situations though, seeing as in my elo, i'm fairly certain 60-70% of players look at the minimap like once every minute lol and can't even process positioning

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AyRe CoNteMpTJun 12, 20151 votes

its like, you put yourself in possible danger to mindgame 0.3% of people who glance at the minimap right that moment, interpret it right and are willing to take an all in 2on2 fight anyways.

basically you could say, when you lane, you are always in the most aggressive position possible for you at that moment considering enemy laners power, minions and ganks. this means, if you walk forward, you put yourself in a position that isnt optimal for you, most likely outweighting the benefit botlane gets from that.

edit 1: your KDA probably comes from walking forward too much ; )

edit 2: but im proud of you regardless, at least you are one of that 2% of diamond players who actually think about the game

SweagenJun 12, 20151 votes

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its like, you put yourself in possible danger to mindgame 0.3% of people who glance at the minimap right that moment, interpret it right and are willing to take an all in 2on2 fight anyways.

basically you could say, when you lane, you are always in the most aggressive position possible for you at that moment considering enemy laners power, minions and ganks. this means, if you walk forward, you put yourself in a position that isnt optimal for you, most likely outweighting the benefit botlane gets from that.

edit 1: your KDA probably comes from walking forward too much ; )

edit 2: but im proud of you regardless, at least you are one of that 2% of diamond players who actually think about the game

aw thanks my KDA is because i recklessly dive people all the time and throw away my good KDAs lol n.n and that's true but if u walk forward a bit and put yourself at a bit of risk in mid lane when ur not in any danger of dying really it can be worth to mindgame i think it worked in a game i played earlier today but conditions were pretty optimal for it to work, it just felt right

AyRe CoNteMpTJun 12, 20151 votes

sure, things can work. you know, you can do many mindgames with the enemy jungler and stuff but on your level of play, there is SO MUCH you can do better with the time and brain capacity used for this mindgame. things that work 100% of the time. for example, going to check the enemies wraith. a midlaner can always do that quickly and it DOES SO MUCH GOOD for your own jungler and all.

like, so many nuances. i would actually not think about mindgaming below anything than worlds finals.

SweagenJun 12, 20151 votes

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sure, things can work. you know, you can do many mindgames with the enemy jungler and stuff but on your level of play, there is SO MUCH you can do better with the time and brain capacity used for this mindgame. things that work 100% of the time. for example, going to check the enemies wraith. a midlaner can always do that quickly and it DOES SO MUCH GOOD for your own jungler and all.

like, so many nuances. i would actually not think about mindgaming below anything than worlds finals.

solo queue is a place a thing like this could potentially work though and yeah vision and glances of where the enemy jungler might be are a huge help for all the lanes but in organize team play, especially at a high level, the whole team's communication ensures that little things like that aren't gonna throw them off, but bot lane and solo queue jungling make communication harder to pull off in solo queue so people just have to go off what they see at any given moment

AyRe CoNteMpTJun 13, 20151 votes

im not saying that your idea is bad, im just saying that a diamond 5 or diamond players skill in general is so low to what is possible, that wasting your capacity on things that "Potentially could work" is EXACTLY the reason it is so low. you go for kills that could happen and go for plays and objectives that might work instead of focusing all your power and energy on the one hundred percent play at the exact same time. your resources are finite, thats why making everything worth the maximum is important.

if you use your flash ult ignite for 300 gold, sure that might be worth it on lvl 6, but it certainly isnt on lvl 9+ you could use it all right now for another 300 or even 450 gold, or you could use it in one minute at another place for 1500 gold and massive mapcontrol. things like that are what you should think about, not the 0.3% increase in effectiveness for a botgank.