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Overpowered Units and Broken Items

Dunker·8/3/2019, 8:43:31 PM·1 votes·1,117 views

UNITS Kassadin: This unit drains mana on attack (passive demon buff but even stronger bc it has 100% success rate) AND a shield that regenerates after every attack. Either nerf the crap out of this unit or change Kassadin into a tier4 or tier5 unit to reflect how incredibly strong this unit is.

Lulu: The ability to heal through red buff is incredibly overpowered. I know, I know, you're going to say "its not a heal". But anything that increases health is a heal. That's what "heal" means. Again, either nerf the crap out of this unit or change it to a tier4 or tier5 unit to reflect its strength.

Karthus: Even without any items, Karthus can one shot an entire team. Even at tier5, this is too strong bc it doesn't act in a line or a cone. It can't be dodged without items.

Nidalee: This unit doesn't just heal once when it ults. Nidalee constantly heals with every attack. This is too strong for a tier1 unit.

Anivia: This unit creates a GIANT aoe that deals dmg, slows attack speed, procs glacial, AND it doesn't go away when Anivia dies. Every other ult from every other unit cancels/disappears when the unit dies, but somehow Anivia gets to be an exception? Why?

Aatrox: Ludicrous damage over a huge aoe that also heals based on the damage dealt... Literally one shots most units. What was Riot thinking? This should be a tier5 unit if it stays the way it is.

Shen: Why give it a nearly full mana bar at the start? It already blocks ALL attacks (autos and abilities) and he can move while its activated. This should clearly be a tier5 unit as well.

Sejuani: By far the largest aoe in the game. It freezes basically the entire board for several seconds. This is definitely worthy of {EDIT} tier5

ITEMS

_ Static Shiv : Everyone knows how important this item is. Not even Braum's ult can block a static shiv proc. If this item stays in the game the way it is, at least prevent it from stacking._

_ Ionic Spark : Possibly the most powerful item in the entire game. Even though it doesn't stack, it completely counters too many units/builds completely with just a single item._

_ Sword Breaker : A 25% chance to render a champion motionless for several seconds is absurd. That's even better than level1 glacial proc chance._

14 Comments

tires8/3/2019, 10:09:52 PM2 votes

None of these are that bad.

Kassadin is practically useless outside of early game as he can easily be focused down and deleted by any carry within seconds after like level 6.

Lulu isn’t that strong. Annoying yes, primarily the knockup, but she’s not that good and extremely squishy.

Nidalee is lowkey a joke especially with red buff or morello. Even in full wild comps I don’t find Nidalee to be a threat.

Anivia isnt much of a problem if you alter your positioning to not be stacked together.

Aatrox just got nerfed. He also doesn’t heal unless you itemize him to, I don’t know where you got that info?

Karthus is a 5 cost, of course his ability is strong. However it’s interruptable and a long cast time that can easily be stunned/killed during

Sejuani aoe isn’t the largest. Cho’s aoe is much larger.

Shen is annoying but not much different ult wise than kindred. He shouldn’t start with as much mana as he does tho, that’s the only thing I agree about for what his ability does.

As for the items, I don’t see shiv as much of a problem outside early game. Ionic spark isn’t as op as people make it out to be. And sword breaker is a direct counter to items like hush/cursed blade/heal items (gunblade/bloodthirster) etc.

Illabethe8/3/2019, 10:26:50 PM2 votes

Kass is weak because the shield and drain amount are FIXED by the skill. Damage far exceeds what he can usually soak. it also pales to Demon by FAR.
Lulu isn't part of any high elo strategy. It's cute at beginner random games, but bigger games are won by damage, not repeatedly adding HP to one unit.
Nidalee takes a long time to charge and easily is negated by items, and is single target and takes a long time to do her job.
Aatrox only one shots if he has Sorcerer....
Sejuani IS Tier 4.....
Shiv is garbage and is mitigateable damage.
Ionic Spark has uses but is by far not the most OP item. You can normally kill an Ionic user before it becomes dangerous.
Sword Breaker; up there, but only on specific units (Trist/Lucian)

Bregan8/4/2019, 5:15:35 PM1 votes

ITT: OP downvotes people that actually have brains because they tell him he's wrong on multiple levels

kassadin is annoying early, but by the time people are level 5 or 6+, his impact dramatically falls of. you're blowing it way out of proportion.

lulu: "waaaah my redbuff didnt fully counter her, waaaaah": the post

karthus: might need some tweaks, but my experience is that he is pretty negligible at 1star and only impactful at 2star

nidalee: proof that OP is a moron. its a HEAL OVER TIME. it only casts once. and on top of that, its broken and doesnt even work properly. its supposed to be a self cast AND the lowest health ally, but if nid is a lowest health ally, she wont cast it on anyone else as well, and doing that doesnt even amplify the heal. she doesnt heal with every attack, its a heal over time that heals in ticks. you dont even understand how the ability works. you're fucking stupid.

anivia: you're right, it should disappear when she dies. i can agree with that. not exactly grossly op though. and it doesnt proc glacial, only an attackspeed slow.

aatrox: long cast time, level 1 rarely even goes off before he dies, at WORST he needs a numbers tweak. you're over reacting. also, he doesnt (and has NEVER) naturally heal from the damage, you need gunblade to do that.

shen: again you prove that you're beyond stupid. it doesnt block abilities, only attacks.

sej: i dont really feel like weighing in on her.

inb4 op downvotes me, lol

Naramiel8/4/2019, 5:25:03 PM1 votes

In re Sejuani vs Cho'Gath ult, I believe the confusion is this: the visual on Sejuani's ult is smaller, but it actually hits one outside the range of the image, making them the same size in practice.