Why does graves have a melee range yet the lowest ADC HP

Walmart Karen·10/11/2019, 1:44:22 PM·5 votes·1,342 views

Graves is very weak. he has 450 hp and the same range as ww. While tristana on the other hand has 890 range plus 500 base health. lucian 600. All the more that they do have useful traits unlike graves who is very pathetic at the moment. I know he has his cone but it's no use when he gets one shot and is not mobile also very little damage unless your going full IE.

Also can you increase Cho'gath ult to include the entire arena while your at it? I mean it;s already stupid bs like tf

13 Comments

Jesi Oni10/11/2019, 2:26:06 PM2 votes

IMO thats because he is the 'tank' of gunslingers. I once builded full Gunslinger comp and he was my heavily armored frontline with red buff and stuff.

(Frontline is closer to enemies so low range is not a problem)

That might be funny considering low hp but armoring him makes up for that. Unless thats the reason why they nerfed his hp when I was not watching 🤔

(And looks like his armor is higher than other ADC by looking at comments)

If you want DMG then put assassin item on him so he will teleport on backline and obliterate entire team.

MrEnds10/11/2019, 2:59:16 PM1 votes

AOE autos plus certain items kinda break him

Ztoka10/11/2019, 3:41:58 PM1 votes

Because they want you to build 2x item 3094 on him so he sits in the back clipping most of your team w/ his autos.. Add curse blade or red buff, good times.

Illabethe10/12/2019, 1:55:35 AM1 votes

He has higher base Armor, applies on hit to EVERY target he hits.

Sire Hippington10/12/2019, 9:02:36 PM1 votes

Probably cause his aoe AAs can be broken with some items. IF you get RFC, ideally even 2, he can be really nasty, and he also can do some stupid things if turned into an assasin. However, both those things have in common that they take him out of focus, and without that shit, he's just weak cause he doesn't have the base damage/utillity to pick up tank stuff, nor the needed tankiness to make other damage/utillity items work and without items, he might be the most usless champ ever..

Heroboy1010/14/2019, 11:46:05 AM1 votes

His AOE + RFC buff was nerfed. So that's why nobody play him. But he can't receive buff because he can be OP again :)

Is not easy to balance these things.

DuskDaUmbreon10/11/2019, 1:48:42 PM1 votes

I assume it's either because of resistances or his autos being AoE. I haven't looked at his resistances compared to others, but it could be it's higher.

Knightrift10/17/2019, 12:39:04 AM1 votes

Graves is OP...

Give him Noble and gunslinger Buff, hand of god? new item that heals for 40 on hit.. RFC and Swordbreaker, put him next to Shen and watch him disable the enemy team.