Ready for gunslinger nerf

MetaCosmos·Sep 18, 2019·1 votes·980 views

Not sure why the lowest cost units in the game gets to hit every single unit on the map at the same time.

9 Comments

KazekibaSep 18, 20192 votes

Lucian's fine? I assume you mean him; if anything I'd argue that he could use a bit of a buff, though I would like to see Culling's damage brought down a little bit

MetaCosmosSep 19, 20191 votes

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Lucian's fine? I assume you mean him; if anything I'd argue that he could use a bit of a buff, though I would like to see Culling's damage brought down a little bit

spend 5s on youtube. every streamer is using gunslingers. lucians 1 shotting entire team teams with shyv. spamming hush, reducing healing on everyone better than kennen with morello. the gunslingers just need to be gutted.

KazekibaSep 20, 20191 votes

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spend 5s on youtube. every streamer is using gunslingers. lucians 1 shotting entire team teams with shyv. spamming hush, reducing healing on everyone better than kennen with morello. the gunslingers just need to be gutted.

Shyv is kind of a meme champ? She's strong but I dont even see her picked that often so I'm not sure where youre coming from. Lucian I almost never see and he's unanimously considered bad right now.

Imperial PandaaSep 20, 20191 votes

You know op is talking about TfT, right?

ProblissSep 19, 20191 votes

Gunslinger nerf? lmao no. If anything, I'd like a small buff to Tristana, Lucian, or Jinx. Streamers do different comps for entertainment. If they were actually trying to win often, they'd play shapeshifters or elementals more.

XhaidenSep 20, 20191 votes

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Gunslinger nerf? lmao no. If anything, I'd like a small buff to Tristana, Lucian, or Jinx. Streamers do different comps for entertainment. If they were actually trying to win often, they'd play shapeshifters or elementals more.

Lucian and Jinx definitely don't need a buff. Lucian is probably the strongest tier 2 unit in the whole game/TFT. And Jinx is the equivalent of Draven mid - late game (once you have the right items for her - she can carry just as hard).

ProblissSep 20, 20191 votes

He's up there, but I think Zed is probably the strongest. He's the type of 2 cost that you could put into an early/mid game comp and he'll do work. Lucian needs items and gunslinger. Shen will also do work without items. Also, because of synergies, Reksai, Zed, and Varus are more valuable 2 cost units.

I want a Jinx buff so that she can carry as hard as Draven. Atm, she can't because she requires another carry to kill units and get her excited. A noble comp with jinx as the solo carry is weaker than Draven as the solo carry.

XhaidenSep 22, 20191 votes

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He's up there, but I think Zed is probably the strongest. He's the type of 2 cost that you could put into an early/mid game comp and he'll do work. Lucian needs items and gunslinger. Shen will also do work without items. Also, because of synergies, Reksai, Zed, and Varus are more valuable 2 cost units.

I want a Jinx buff so that she can carry as hard as Draven. Atm, she can't because she requires another carry to kill units and get her excited. A noble comp with jinx as the solo carry is weaker than Draven as the solo carry.

Zed gains some extra damage from being a ninja - so it's up there in terms of being a useful tier 2 unit, tho - he's a glass cannon (high damage - low defense and no evasive abilities). Unless he faces ideal situations - where the enemy units are positioned so badly that he can take out a carry range unit - he starts to fall behind mid game (dies to fast to be useful). And yes - Lucian needs items "but it's worthy of those items (never feels like you wasted those items on him)" - still among the strongest carries both early and mid game. And that's just it - Lucian carries games (he's not a glass cannon like Zed - due to being so evasive). He can still carry even without gunslingers - but even one can be enough to make him more efficient (like GP paired with Blade of the Ruined King - which makes him a blademaster).

You do make a good point with Varus (: for some reason - i forgot about Varus - even tho i used him a lot). Even tho - he's weaker than Lucian early game, mid game he's pretty close (or on same page - if you manage to pair him with 3 other demons) - and late game surpasses Lucian.

Might be more or less unconventional - but try using a Jinx as carry in a 6 blademaster comp - while turning her into a blade master as well...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPt-_ttydg8

XhaidenSep 20, 20191 votes

Gunslingers are fine as they are. Maybe a slight nerf to Lucian - to bring some balance among tier 2 units (even a slight reduction of his AD damage - won't handicap him - since his damage ratio still scales more than good enough - with the right items). The nerf to Graves - did the trick (helped balancing Gunslingers).

Right now - Gunslingers is not even among top 3 strongest comps.