TFT Very Fun Concept... Too many major issues already though...

MrCasual87·Jul 22, 2019·5 votes·2,927 views

I have put a few hours into this game mode and have spent about double that time observing on twitch and have some troubling early impressions. The concept of the game is great, its got a solid foundation although the matches might want to be tuned to last longer or have higher ranked champs appear sooner to make them worth the wait/cost. My biggest issue with the game is not only how much RNG plays a factor into whether you win or lose, but the flat out balance of the builds as well. I understand this is in beta but for a company that manages one of the most competitive games on the planet, they really crapped the bed on giving this mode some decent balance. Assassin (crit) builds and ranged ADC's stacked in the corners completely dominate every other build not to mention you can completely negate melee picks by stacking your cards(champions) in the corner. This seems like basic stuff to have fleshed out before any type of beta testing... It seems to me they were going for more of a slow paced pick smart builds and synergy with your champions to win kinda game-play but it falls very flat considering you can just stack assassins that hit anyone and everyone for 2k+ on avg at 6 stacks. I think not only do they need to nerf that clearly but make the other builds more viable and easier to achieve, there are too few champion cards active right now with too few build types. And making it to top 3 consistently only to see people with single gold cards seems like a huge waste (I understand people have been able to stack and silver them I have too, but its too few for what they give you aside from maybe MF). Anyway this is just an early impression kind of discussion thread. I'd like to hear what other people are thinking.

15 Comments

kwGiftyJul 22, 20192 votes

Based on you saying that Assassin builds "dominate" all other builds, you haven't spent nearly enough time in the game. In the higher levels you rarely see an assassin team win, because while it's decent early it falls apart late.

To expect to have even a remote understanding of a game with this many variables in a hours is absurd

PxerkzaJul 22, 20191 votes

more like assassins are as item dependent as gunslingers are

and 6 assassins on their own can't compete with 6 sorcs for example

you need the supplement them with imperials or ninjas or a very durable front line with a lot of cc

ive seen assassins elementalists do really well but that requires great econ management great luck with getting the 2 stars because 1 star assassins are dead weight and a lot of items

mana if you want akali to carry mana and rods if you want kat to carry lots of bf swords if you want zed or rengar to carry

assassins are far from dominant and get hard countered by yordles cc and pd and just as you said it's been like a week since ive seen assassins win a game

i just played a game against 5 players that were going variants of assassins and even i was thinking of going assassins due to all the zeds/rengars and akalis i was rolling but at the end a dude that went yordles and me who went gunslingers elementalists were the last 2 players and i won barely due to MF getting 2 ults off by some miracle

ie game is far from RNG when the winner is decided great players will never rely on RNG to win Hafu toast and scarra have always preached that if you are good at the game RNG doesn't even affect whether you win or not

MrCasual87Jul 23, 20191 votes

Thanks for the response, while I agree with a lot of what you are saying it is ignorant and naive to think RNG doesnt play a role in whether or not you win or lose, At the end of the game if you dont get the cards you need you can build how you want directly impacting your ability to counter or play the game at a high level. My issue is that this feels a lot worse than early hearthstone did and that to me is a huge red flag. Like I said though these are just my early impressions I need to put more time into the game ive been getting a lot of trolling responses which is to be expected as these are league players but I really do enjoy constructive conversation.

PxerkzaJul 23, 20191 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbPNVEB8O7E

MrCasual87Jul 23, 20191 votes

I love this

MrCasual87Jul 23, 20191 votes

Thanks for the response, I am going off of my games played and my experience whereas the majority of games won were 6 stacked assassin builds, there isnt a defense vs that if your champs get 1 shot >< Thanks for the reply

kwGiftyJul 22, 20191 votes

In general people who complain about the RNG or "bad draws" are the same people who looks first to complain about their team in the main game than themselves.

Sorry but if you're expecting to play TFT and be able to force the 1 specific comp you want to play every game just don't even bother.

MrCasual87Jul 23, 20191 votes

Thanks for the response and I didn't think anyone was complaining in this thread? This thread was about starting constructive conversation about the game mode and what people think so far, in no way am I asking to be able to pick every single card I want, that type of game-play forces metas which aim for bad game-play overall. What I said is that the game feels "too" reliant on the rng and less on being able to make strategic builds, interesting builds in order to counter-play or outplay your opponents. I look forward to a response that is more than the copy/paste league of legends forums response when you are ready.

PxerkzaJul 22, 20191 votes

https://happygamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Flexing-in-the-New-Teamfight-Tactics-Beta-_-New-TFT-PBE-Gameplay-_-League-of-Legends-Auto-Chess-11-30-screenshot-2.png

please check that symbol below the fps/ms in the top right corner please learn what that symbol means

now stop with these dumb ass threads

report the bugs and play the game it's nowhere near finished stop expecting perfection from a game in beta

MrCasual87Jul 23, 20191 votes

Thanks for the response but I do think you might be in the wrong forums, this isnt anger management this is for people trying to have constructive conversation about this game mode. Id love to hear from you though after you have got some help.

PxerkzaJul 23, 20192 votes

My biggest issue with the game is not only how much RNG plays a factor into whether you win or lose, but the flat out balance of the builds as well. I understand this is in beta but for a company that manages one of the most competitive games on the planet, they really crapped the bed on giving this mode some decent balance

apparently this is constructive criticism for you i told you to learn the definition of a game in beta and you are dismissing what i said

balanceing a game is a process it's not an end goal and bugs in a beta is an expectation if the game was flawless and only needed balancing it would have been officially launched

MrCasual87Jul 23, 20191 votes

Thanks for the response, and yes you are correct, balancing a competitive game is a process, but to say it is expected for a game to launch in beta in a horrible state (which I am not saying TFT is) is lowering your expectations and settling with a piss poor final product. I am not that type of person. Also just because a game is live does not mean more changes/fixes are not needed. That is being very naive. You should play a few more comp games and you will understand that a bit more. Again and I cannot stress this enough, this is a thread for discussion about early impressions on this game, not complaints about the final product.

PxerkzaJul 23, 20192 votes

but to say it is expected for a game to launch in beta in a horrible state is lowering your expectations and settling with a piss poor final product

why do you keep ignoring the fact that beta =/= final product?

sheldonbunnyJul 22, 20191 votes

I know this is going to come off as nitpicky, but please in the future try breaking up your thoughts a bit with paragraphs OP. I genuinely want to read your post, but the "wall of words" is more taxing on a person's vision/focus.

I will say that i'd call them pieces or champions, not cards. This is very much not a CCG.

I myself have lost a bit of enthusiasm for this mode due to the unoriginality of many just spamming assassin/ninja comps. Variety would be nice. Whether or not they're strong in specific elos is secondary in my mind. Obviously the higher up you go, more people are capable of adapting and overcoming it.

MrCasual87Jul 23, 20191 votes

Thanks for the response, but I would say if you are looking for a more grammatically correct post you should probably not be on the league of legends forums, my objective here is to start constructive conversations about impressions on the game not punctuation and sentence structure but thank you for the points. Also I would say the game has trouble identifying whether its 'cards' or 'pieces' considering you buy cards that turn into board pieces lol. I do agree though from the games I have played the majority have been won by the spammy assassin/ninja comps which seems very overtuned for sure. but I would like to get a bit more time into the game to see if that opinion changes.