Skilled Bronzie needs help from a gold+ player solo queue

CKwoka26947··1 votes·570 views

Cannot beat the streaks of discs and feeders. It's happening 3 games in a row. Need advice to win. The game is NOT fair. I win my lane and other lanes are trampled. I don't know what to do to win a game.

I've had silvers quit duoing with me because they coudlnt take the heat. They all agreed its not my fault.

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Amarøk1 votes

same help would be useful did 7-3 in my promos and got b5

weyuijoko1 votes

Think about it this way: If in every bronze game there is a troll (and you are NEVER the troll), then the chances of there being a troll on your team is only 4/9. (as there are 9 players for the troll to be, only four are on your team). The chances of the troll being on the other team is 5/9. Therefore, you should be winning 5/9 games, thus advancing, albeit slowly. You shouldn't be losing 3 games in a row (unlikely if you are actually good at the game).

Don't take my advice, however, I'm bronze elo :D.

SwmKoolaid1 votes

Play the current meta power houses instead of random champs and you'll win more than you lose. You need to play the champions that are able to carry in the current meta.

Top: Lissandra, Kayle, Darius (If they pick riven), Garen (Especially if they pick riven), Rumble, Gnar Mid: Ahri, Leblanc, Ori, Lissandra, Xerath AD Carry: Graves, Caitlyn, Corki Support: Leona, Thresh, Annie, Janna Jungle: J4, Rengar, Lee Sin, Amumu

This list is not based off of the LCS, its also based off of OGN.

My advice to you is pick one role, learn 2-3 of the champs for that role and specialize in that role. Pick 1 champ from this list for each other role, and get good with those. If you can manage that you should have no issues what so ever climbing out of bronze 5 and into silver. I placed in b5, and less than 25 wins later I am back at Silver 2. If you are still struggling to get through bronze playing these champs its because you belong there, which means you need to work on understanding the game better to give yourself a better ability to carry. For that I highly suggest watching the LCS, not just watching it but actually studying it and seeing why these players are so good. Copy them.

LJ2w1GhbNH1 votes

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Cannot beat the streaks of discs and feeders. It's happening 3 games in a row. Need advice to win. The game is NOT fair. I win my lane and other lanes are trampled. I don't know what to do to win a game.

I've had silvers quit duoing with me because they coudlnt take the heat. They all agreed its not my fault.

Corny I am looking at your recent matches and I have noticed some trends.

I am a silver 1 main support about to go up to gold. So you are welcome to take this advice if you want to. Here is what I see.

Averages over last 10 games -

Creep Score (I did not factor in support games) - over last 7 games you have avg. 159 cs a game. most of your games have gone over 30 minutes, most actualy over 40 minutes. One game in 23 minutes you had 36 CS as riven ...

AVG KDS (Included support games into this total): 6.1/5.9/9

Win / Loss Ratio: 6W/4L 60%

Now these were a mixture of ranked and normals and many lanes were covered. So here is my suggestion. Find the lane you enjoy. Be it top support or mid (seemed to be your three most played lanes) practice the daylights out of said lane.

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/42852154

that is my lolking.net link to my summoner name. I want you look at my match history. I main support and very often coach people on how to play support. I went through all of you matches. you placed 3 or less wards in over 1/2 of the games. Your gold was behind everyone in almost all of the games (not counting your support games). In each game you won you had the most wards placed in each game you lost you had the least wards placed. You also more often than not have the lowest CS score in the room between all sides accounted for main CS roles (marksmen, middle and top.) You by no means are a bad player, but you are certainty not gold player.

Now i know you said you get DCs and trolls and what not and how you react to them effects the game. You can do one of two things. the most common thing higher elo players do if someone is being toxic is simply mute them and report them at the end of them game. thats it make it simple and sweet. option two, the more possible to blow up in your face option is to try and talk some sense into them. usually this results in a toxic sludge and puts you on tilt. You choose.

My last suggestion is find a duo partner around your level and play with them as much as possible. As a support main I am always looking for an adc main to go with and when I find one I click I hold onto them like white on rice baby. Because when I have a solid adc behind me on my engags my win ratio is amaizng.

To give you an idea of how i play i avg 3 kills a game as support. I avg 2 deaths a game and overall i avg 24 assist a game. I typically am full build by 30 minutes as support and place over 28 wards in a 30 minute game. I am aggressive as all hell and usually can zone both adc and support out myself without any poke from my adc allowing them to CS freely. this happened from 3 season of practice and last seasojn i finally decided i wanted to support main.

I know this was a lot and maybe nothing special but this is just numbers. practice makes perfect.

CKwoka269471 votes

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Corny I am looking at your recent matches and I have noticed some trends.

I am a silver 1 main support about to go up to gold. So you are welcome to take this advice if you want to. Here is what I see.

Averages over last 10 games -

Creep Score (I did not factor in support games) - over last 7 games you have avg. 159 cs a game. most of your games have gone over 30 minutes, most actualy over 40 minutes. One game in 23 minutes you had 36 CS as riven ...

AVG KDS (Included support games into this total): 6.1/5.9/9

Win / Loss Ratio: 6W/4L 60%

Now these were a mixture of ranked and normals and many lanes were covered. So here is my suggestion. Find the lane you enjoy. Be it top support or mid (seemed to be your three most played lanes) practice the daylights out of said lane.

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/42852154

that is my lolking.net link to my summoner name. I want you look at my match history. I main support and very often coach people on how to play support. I went through all of you matches. you placed 3 or less wards in over 1/2 of the games. Your gold was behind everyone in almost all of the games (not counting your support games). In each game you won you had the most wards placed in each game you lost you had the least wards placed. You also more often than not have the lowest CS score in the room between all sides accounted for main CS roles (marksmen, middle and top.) You by no means are a bad player, but you are certainty not gold player.

Now i know you said you get DCs and trolls and what not and how you react to them effects the game. You can do one of two things. the most common thing higher elo players do if someone is being toxic is simply mute them and report them at the end of them game. thats it make it simple and sweet. option two, the more possible to blow up in your face option is to try and talk some sense into them. usually this results in a toxic sludge and puts you on tilt. You choose.

My last suggestion is find a duo partner around your level and play with them as much as possible. As a support main I am always looking for an adc main to go with and when I find one I click I hold onto them like white on rice baby. Because when I have a solid adc behind me on my engags my win ratio is amaizng.

To give you an idea of how i play i avg 3 kills a game as support. I avg 2 deaths a game and overall i avg 24 assist a game. I typically am full build by 30 minutes as support and place over 28 wards in a 30 minute game. I am aggressive as all hell and usually can zone both adc and support out myself without any poke from my adc allowing them to CS freely. this happened from 3 season of practice and last seasojn i finally decided i wanted to support main.

I know this was a lot and maybe nothing special but this is just numbers. practice makes perfect.

Great advice and its some new stuff I will have to think about. But it does NOT address the issue like this last game I had. All I am asking for is ateam that does NOT feed and does NOT afk. It's damn hard to get CS when your other lane guy is such a weakling that the enemy mid can come down and double gank you with the jungler.

Ericshaun1 votes

If you warded, you would see mid and jungle coming and you retreat under your turret. Thus the mid gets no cs or kills and wastes time going back to lane giving your mid time to get ahead.

SwmKoolaid1 votes

Any decent mid lane will find and opportunity to roam when its needed, regardless of if the guy on your team is shit or not. So really its your job to find a way to deal with it and play through it. Best way to go about it is warding and having good map awareness.

Sara Tone In1 votes

/rant #STFU

Hamlik1 votes

add B4BY HUEY in game for bronzies looking to get carried up levels and ill discuss it with you

Arkiece1 votes

Just keep playing. If you play little enough that 3 games are what you define as ELO hell or whatever you just need to play more, because if you are better than other players at you're ELO you WILL win more, and a larger pool of games will define your win percentage ex: if you play 3 games and all have dcs you have a 0% win rate, if you play ten games, 3 have dcs and you only honestly lose two, suddenly you have a 50% win rate regardless of those dcs.

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