Generally, children want to play with children, and adults want to play with adults.

InsaneSamurai·Jul 22, 2015·7 votes·859 views

Why not allow us to split ourselves up beforehand?

Imagine how much less work the tribunal would be if people would rarely enter games with someone who is playing the game with an entirely different purpose? The younger players who don't want to be told what to do can play with others who don't want to be told what to do. The older players who just want to have an organized team game can play with players who also want to have an organized team game.

This really seems like a win-win to me.

11 Comments

InsaneSamuraiJul 22, 20152 votes

Then don't split it by age, that just seems like the easiest go-to without trying to ask people questions or whatnot.

How about you have one small paragraph for each option, the first one sounding like some sort of hero who leads by action and not words and does not take orders, the second one sounding like someone who wants to combine efforts and try and work yourself into others' strategies, perhaps sacrificing personal glory for the sake of the team.

If you worded it right, you wouldn't have to use something as unreliable as age, just let the descriptions filter us into where we should be. Sure there would still be problem players as there likely always will be, but this would cut back on inter-team conflicts immensely.

SEKAIJul 22, 20152 votes

What if I told you,

I as an adult, like to play with kids?

Klatn YeloxJul 22, 20152 votes

well, in that case, I would call you a pedophile.

InsaneSamuraiJul 22, 20151 votes

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What if I told you,

I as an adult, like to play with kids?

Which would be fine, I never said adults and kids shouldn't be able to play together if they wanted. I also never said that adults are always reasonable or that children are never reasonable. I'm just trying to find the easiest way to reduce the most amount of inter-team fighting that I can think of. Generally since the age gap seems to create the most situations where people seem to be completely incapable of understanding each other, that's what I chose.

The actual thing I'm aiming for is the yolo mentality, which is obviously not directly tied to age, and the vast majority of players who play this way are so young that having a reasonable discussion with them is impossible. They generally don't even want that in the first place, so why not place them with like minded players?

Earl EulrichJul 22, 20152 votes

actually, adults accept that this sort of generalization doesn´t work at all.

InsaneSamuraiJul 22, 20151 votes

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actually, adults accept that this sort of generalization doesn´t work at all.

Ok, you pick one thing to separate players by that will have as helpful of an impact then.

Not so easy to figure out, is it?

disregardableJul 22, 20151 votes

And then the adults that don't want to be told what to do will make the whole division fruitless. :(

ARequestOfDeathJul 22, 20151 votes

honestly i hate playing with kids my age my thoughts are way too complicated for them to even comprehend so i like playing with people in their twenties.

InsaneSamuraiJul 22, 20151 votes

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honestly i hate playing with kids my age my thoughts are way too complicated for them to even comprehend so i like playing with people in their twenties.

I think that is cool, and under a system using anything similar to my idea there should always be an option to switch to the other group(maybe not unlimited, but still).

His GoatlinessJul 23, 20151 votes

Saying only adults can play a game like a mature person is pretty god damn rude really. Not to mention it would never work. The "kids" would still just join whatever games they wanted to because they're "too young to act maturely" as I'm sure you'd put it. There wouldn't be a way to actually separate the "mature" from the "immature" players without some sort of intense screening process. Plus, no in game fighting ever happens because of an age gap. It's always because of either one person being a complete ass, which doesn't happen as much anymore, or because somebody doesn't know how to be constructive with criticism. Hell, I don't think I've seen anyone say how old they were on league in at least a few months. They'd be better off splitting people that get reported often from people that don't get reported very much. Generalizing an entire population based on an arbitrary fact or number never ends well.

InsaneSamuraiJul 23, 20151 votes

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Saying only adults can play a game like a mature person is pretty god damn rude really. Not to mention it would never work. The "kids" would still just join whatever games they wanted to because they're "too young to act maturely" as I'm sure you'd put it. There wouldn't be a way to actually separate the "mature" from the "immature" players without some sort of intense screening process. Plus, no in game fighting ever happens because of an age gap. It's always because of either one person being a complete ass, which doesn't happen as much anymore, or because somebody doesn't know how to be constructive with criticism. Hell, I don't think I've seen anyone say how old they were on league in at least a few months. They'd be better off splitting people that get reported often from people that don't get reported very much. Generalizing an entire population based on an arbitrary fact or number never ends well.

Yeah I never said that, but you can put words in my mouth if you want to give yourself justification for being aggressive towards me I guess. Simple idea really, some people will not group up or listen to anyone no matter what. Those people should not be playing the same game as the ones who want an organized team effort in a team-based game. If you ask me, they shouldn't be playing this at all, but if Riot wants a bunch of team deathmatch players ruining their community, more power to them I guess. Plenty of in-game fighting happens because of age gaps, champ selections, mistakes someone just assumed someone made without even looking, saying anything that isn't an abbreviation, asking for help, asking someone to be safe, hell basically saying anything at all. If someone isn't mature and/or intelligent enough to realize that fighting with your teammates is going to make you lose, than they don't deserve to be here. At the very least, they don't deserve to be thrown in the game with people who actually want to play it properly.