Ascension detailed mechanics FAQ

RiotL4T3NCY·Sep 10, 2014·18 votes·42,960 views

Yo! >o</ I've put together a FAQ on some of the more detailed mechanics in the new Ascension featured game mode. If you guys have any other questions or comments on things I've missed or you want to know more about, feel free to ask below!

http://promo.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/shurima/game-mode/index.html

Are any Summoner Spells not available in Ascension? Smite, Revive & Garrison are disabled.

How much IP/ XP will I get from a game of Ascension? IP & XP rewards are exactly the same as ARAM on Howling Abyss.

Is there a MMR for Ascension? Yes, it is seeded from your Normal MMR. If you're pro, expect to get matched against similarly pro players in Ascension!

How do Gold & XP work? Gold & XP in Ascension are EXACTLY the same for all players on both teams at all times.

I want to give some extra context here. This means that at any point in time, you always have an equal chance to win/lose any teamfight. Even if you bought a GP10 item, say Avarice Blade, and never upgraded it to a Statik Shiv for the whole 20min game (coz that's a good idea?), the total spoils from your diabolical plan will be ~360G at the end of the match.

There is no mathematical 'snowballing' possible Ascension. Even if the other team has been stomping, they have as much chance to lose their next Xerath fight as your team does to defeat them, Ascend, and go on a comeback killing spree.

Can I recall or teleport back to base to heal or shop? No. Once you've used the Golden Transcendence trinket to teleport into battle, you cannot return until death.

What happens if people try to camp me on the battle platforms while I'm teleporting? For a few seconds after teleporting, players are imbued with the "Phoenix Dawn" buff, which dramatically increases resistances and tenacity. This prevents any teleport spawn camping.

Can I steal Xerath with Nunu's Consume or Cho'Gath's Feast? No. Being an Anceient Ascendant, Xerath is inedible (and not very tasty?). You can still use these two skills to efficiently burn him down, but they will always leave him on 1 HP at best.

Can I stealth while ascended? No. While Ascended you are revealed at ALL times to the enemy team, regardless of if you're hiding in brush or playing a stealth champion. Giant sunbeams of light tend to do that.

Can I stealth while capturing relics? No. Be aware that if you are Teemo, Eve, etc, you will still be visible while channeling a Relic of Shurima.

How long before Xerath respawns after an Ascendant dies? 30 seconds.

How long after capturing a Relic of Shurima before it respawns? 30 seconds.

If I kill Xerath just after I already died, will I still Ascend? Yes. Any posthumous DoT damage spells, Kog'Maw / Karthus passive, etc, which manage to kill Xerath will bring that player back to life on full health with Ascension, just as if they had still been alive when striking the killing blow. Death cannot keep one from Ascension.

62 Comments

CupcakeTrapSep 10, 201449 votes

Can I steal Xerath with Nunu's Consume or Cho'Gath's Feast? No. Being an Ancient Ascendant, Xerath is inedible (and not very tasty?).

Whoa, whoa. Let's not get too fancy with all this new lore here. You should make sure that this isn't going to constrain the narrative team and prevent them from telling exciting new stories. Examples of things that interfere with their League of Legends storytelling include the League of Legends, the Institute of War, and in some cases gluten.

Are any Summoner Spells not available in Ascension? Smite, Revive & Garrison are disabled.

My suspicions are confirmed. Please stop talking about Summoners. Just like it's well known that an activated cell phone on an airplane can cause the pilot's head to suddenly explode, such non-canonical terms as "Summoners" can cause Runaan to faint and fall down a flight of stairs by disrupting her finely tuned loresense, which she also uses for navigation. Like a bat.

SerBlaiseSep 10, 201423 votes

The sass is real.

mi ramfanSep 10, 201412 votes

This post is wonderful.

LabcownSep 10, 20147 votes

Laughs were had 10/10

P.S. INB4 Ascendant Retcon.

XenohazSep 10, 20145 votes

I know people say "lol" when they see something funny on the internet, but I actually just fell out of my chair. Keep it up man, don't let this go.

Falling RainSep 15, 20143 votes

Best post ive seen in a long time =/=

ModCaptainMårvelousSep 10, 20144 votes

Here's my question: If this game mode is popular enough (Because I'll be damned, people love TDA and King of the Hill/Juggernaut), do you think we'll get a map that trades out the crystal scar for an ancient Shurima tomb or ruins?

MarthianSep 11, 20142 votes

I'm guessing probably not. I'm already seeing people tire of it, and their only reason to play Ascension is to get Perfect Ascension (which the condition to get is just ridiculously hard and relies on so many factors out of your control.)

OblongOtterSep 11, 20141 votes

Lol I was playing with 4 of my friends, and we got the perfect in like 3 games (at least for me, I joined the group late.)

The Red WardenSep 10, 20143 votes

Since ascended champions have their models increased, can their model be made even bigger with a lulu ult? If so what is the largest champion model possible?

OblongOtterSep 11, 20142 votes

If it all stacks, I assume a 6 Stacks level 16 Chogath with Lulu ult and Ascension. I don't think Zac can compete since I don't think Crystal Scar has item 3083 . Speaking of, the fact that this Shuriman Event Game Mode takes place on TCS reminds me just how much "the Crystal Scar is weeping."

ZeralyosSep 13, 20143 votes

Can I steal Xerath with global ults (ezreal, Draven) from inside the fountain? If so, what happens?

Mr FrankSep 14, 20142 votes

You get the buff in the fountain. Saw it happen with an allied Ezreal once.

RiotL4T3NCYSep 14, 20143 votes

Yes you can. Of course.. if you chose not to go and rejoin your team, they will almost definitely lose the 4v5. :/

DecritSep 14, 20141 votes

thiis means it can be used to lock the buff in the final minutes of the game and then win in order to get icon? i't s not that hard once you have an advantage and you manage to get relics; sure it can be played around but still...

FlintfallSep 10, 20142 votes

Yes, it is seeded from your Normal MMR. If you're pro, expect to get matched against similarly pro players in Ascension!

Oh come on, I even play ranked to escape from the horror that is my normal MMR (my past tryhard self got on waaaay too much)!

Still, I expect this gamemode to be tons of fun!

SunfieldSep 10, 20142 votes

I want to ask, what is the justification for having bans in this mode?

XenohazSep 10, 20143 votes

I'm not Riot, so take my opinion with a grain of salt, but there are some champs you just don't want to see ascend on the other team. It's the same logic as URF having bans.

SunfieldSep 11, 20141 votes

Cant think of one. Its a constant teamfight. Everything is manageable.

XenohazSep 11, 20141 votes

Personally, I'd ban Riven and Diana, just to give two examples.

SunfieldSep 11, 20141 votes

And others would ban Kat, Khazix, Kassadin etc.

Thats the point. With urf you knew from the start which champion was stupid. Here...?

XenohazSep 11, 20141 votes

Trial and error maybe?

SunfieldSep 12, 20141 votes

Aside from the fact that its a fun game mode, nothing I have seen so far would convince me that Ascension needs bans more than Dominion... Actually it needs them less, because in Dominion you would have to ban Heimer

OnegarionSep 14, 20141 votes

there are bans in dominion if you want to wait for the group in draft dominion to actually play. SO you just leave your computer on and maybe in a couple years you'll get a team.

AnritaSep 11, 20142 votes

What exactly are the stats on the ascension buff? Are we talking percentage or flat bonuses to ad/ap/pen? How much bonus CDR?

Also, if a champion dies with the buff but is revived by e.g. Anivia's passive or Zilean's ult, do they retain the buff?

RinyuSep 23, 20141 votes

Buff is still on them. I revived as Zilean someone and he was still buffed.

KinjishiSep 12, 20142 votes

"This prevents any teleport spawn camping." No, it doesn't. Camping at teleport locations happens in games quite often.

BartskiSep 12, 20142 votes

If you run gold per 5 runes and masteries at the end of each game im usually 4-5k gold ahead

The SladSep 16, 20141 votes

Yeah I thought of that too, was usually around 20% to 30% more gold than everyone else at the end.

DraikTempestSep 14, 20142 votes

Are you going to address why Xerath will not give us his bacon? I heard him say he has some.

EMOFRATPARTYSep 10, 20141 votes

Can you post context for what Ascension actually is?

The mode seems awesome but the mechanics don't mean a ton without knowing what Ascension is or how it works.

EDIT: Please and thank you.

RiotL4T3NCYSep 10, 20145 votes

Good point, some people might miss the website. I've added the link into the original post. ^^b

RavenHuskySep 10, 20141 votes

If you have max cdr from items, does the ascension cdr stack on top of that, or are you still stuck at 40%?

RiotL4T3NCYSep 10, 20144 votes

You are still capped at 40%.

missinggraveSep 13, 20142 votes

(( Urf mode flash backs )) Thank you for leaving it at 40%

DrogeistSep 10, 20141 votes

Thank you so much for this! Very interesting. Couple questions:

Could post-death ascendants just hide on their spawn platforms to prevent Xerath from respawning and deny the enemy team 5 points for killing you? Probably not worth having 4v5 to do it, but still, I was just wondering.
What's the benefit to having multiple people channeling a relic? How much faster does it go, how many seconds does it take off by having 2, 3, 4, or 5 people channeling.

Thanks!

RiotL4T3NCYSep 10, 20146 votes

Post-death Ascensions happen on the spot, right where your corpse is, so you can get straight back into the fight. You don't teleport back to your fountain.
Multiple people channeling a relic make it much harder to interrupt due to multiple targets, and also greatly increase it's speed: 1 person = 5 sec capture 2 people = 3.8 sec capture 5 people = 2 sec capture

DrogeistSep 10, 20141 votes

Post-death Ascensions happen on the spot, right where your corpse is, so you can get straight back into the fight. You don't teleport back to your fountain.

Multiple people channeling a relic make it much harder to interrupt due to multiple targets, and also greatly increase it's speed: 1 person = 5 sec capture 2 people = 3.8 sec capture 5 people = 2 sec capture

Cool! Thanks for the reply! Might want to work this into your original post!

KevinDelMarrSep 10, 20146 votes

I swear there are times where my ally gets hit while we're both capping and I get interrupted as well. Just this last game we were duoing a Cap, I took no damage as my ally got hit and I stopped channeling. Feels like it can be bugged some times

DrogeistSep 10, 20141 votes

I can't swear to it, but I feel the same way. Can anyone prove it?

TenSlashTenSep 11, 20141 votes

but thats pointless since only first one touching relic gets rewarded.. so yeah..

Falling RainSep 15, 20142 votes

its about winning the game, not being first on the losing team

Mistress MadokaSep 10, 20141 votes

Thank you so much for this! Very interesting. Couple questions:

Could post-death ascendants just hide on their spawn platforms to prevent Xerath from respawning and deny the enemy team 5 points for killing you? Probably not worth having 4v5 to do it, but still, I was just wondering.

What's the benefit to having multiple people channeling a relic? How much faster does it go, how many seconds does it take off by having 2, 3, 4, or 5 people channeling.

Thanks!

As mentioned in the OP, If you Ascend After Death, you Will be Respawned On the Spot and Be ascended. You will not Respawn in your base. You will respawn where you Died.

stealmykissSep 10, 20141 votes

If someone (aka TF and Shen) ult... can they get back into the platform?

RiotL4T3NCYSep 10, 20148 votes

No they cannot.

IndigomaSep 13, 20142 votes

But as Ez or ashe you can ult and get it while on the platform.

EdasichSep 12, 20141 votes

I wonder if the Shurima icon buttons are incompatible with Google Chrome, because I've won 17 ascension games already and I can't claim my rewards.

He Who is PaleSep 16, 20141 votes

I have Chrome and they worked for me.

HellpyreSep 15, 20141 votes

How do Gold & XP work? Gold & XP in Ascension are EXACTLY the same for all players on both teams at all times.

I meant to post this when I had noticed it at at least Zyra's plants still give gold, and some other minions may as well. Not huge, but it could push one team into a slightly better position.

loliconCATSep 17, 20141 votes

I would like to ask: why does Skarner get involved in this event? And while he does, why not Taric too? And where is exactly the Crystal Scar now on the Valoran map? I am really confused.