Dodging in ARAM is still the norm

Dr Jarjarbinks·Nov 30, 2014·6 votes·637 views

I play aram almost exclusively. More lobbies end with a dodge than with a game. That is huge. Its not just the wasted time, it undermines the entire point of aram. If there are players for whom the default is to dodge when they don't like something then the system is broken. When the system "fails" to produce a game at the end of a lobby 50%+ of the time, that by itself should warrant attention. When the reason is people ignoring the system in place to give themselves an advantage or more control over the other 9 people in a game its not just broken, its infuriating.

11 Comments

Poorly DressedNov 30, 20145 votes

It really shouldn't surprise anyone when you have a close look at the win rate numbers! Poke mages and Supports dominate the rankings (70%+ for Sona for example) for obvious reasons. We all know it's possible to win with tank/melee teams but it's not very likely as the numbers clearly show - i think that is the main reason why people dodge to not lose at champion select. A ban phase would be really cool before random champions are selected! Maybe just 1 per team

FDruNov 30, 20141 votes

It really shouldn't surprise anyone when you have a close look at the win rate numbers! Poke mages and Supports dominate the rankings (70%+ for Sona for example) for obvious reasons. We all know it's possible to win with tank/melee teams but it's not very likely as the numbers clearly show - i think that is the main reason why people dodge to not lose at champion select. A ban phase would be really cool before random champions are selected! Maybe just 1 per team

1 ban per team? How conservative of you. Why even bother with such a low number?

There should be 10 bans at the minimum. And that still isn't nearly enough.

Dr JarjarbinksNov 30, 20142 votes

I personally think that fewer bans is needed but what do I know? If any of these things were implemented though they would need other changes to work. If you actually had 10 bans per team(and why not, really) you would need a really high minimum champs owned. This may be a good thing as well. I think that no one change anyone suggests is viable by itself which makes me think a ranked version is the only answer. A high champ minimum can only be justified if level 10s can play a version of the mode that doesnt require a champ minimum.

SaiannaNov 30, 20143 votes

I'd even say 3 per team

But tbh bans won't fix it. Even if you ban 1-6-10-50 most op champions, if someone gets champion they don't like = insta dodge :/

Harsh punishments for leaving would be better. 1st dodge = 1hr without ARAM 2nd = 1 day 3rd = 1 week After 5-10 dodges per month... well.. something "cruel" :P

Noone would dare dodging. Noone.

Dr JarjarbinksNov 30, 20145 votes

I agree. Why shouldn't aram dodgers be banned...from aram? Just ban them from aram as they have shown they don't actually want to play it anyway. They want to play "kinda random but only when they odds are in my favor."

Dr JarjarbinksNov 30, 20142 votes

This is a huge part of the problem. People who don't actually know what they are talking about deciding a team comp is crap and scrapping the game for 9 other people. I will say that while sometimes when the uber pessimistic person says we will lose we do but it is never the way they think. Ever. This means that they are right for the wrong reasons. They don't know crap and often cost the game by not trying because they think they already know. No you don't know get over yourself.

Poorly DressedNov 30, 20142 votes

You're right for sure! It always surprises me that a - in my eyes - bad team comp wins and it's kinda eye-opening. But it doesn't happen on a regular basis. Most games are just poke festivals until one team crumbles and it's painful and stupid to play.

If the map was just twice as wide, there would be so much more room for tanks and map movement without getting poked in a straight line all day. That's what i would prefer

JedditeNov 30, 20143 votes

Riot isn't going to bad players for dodging ARAM. Players are not banned for dodging any other map/mode.

Familiarize yourself with the concept of "unintended consequences". If there was a severe penalty for dodging, players would just AFK. and an AFK player is far worse than somebody dodging during champion select. One might think this concept was obvious, but given the number of turbo-nerds who post threads/make comments suggesting players be banned for dodging in ARAM ... no, it isn't.

Dr JarjarbinksNov 30, 20143 votes

If you afk you get reported and eventually banned. I don't understand why you think I don't understand the concept of "unintended consequences." You don't even understand the concept of "intended consequences."

KinjishiDec 1, 20141 votes

Happened today when I played ARAM. Someone was unhappy that they received Garen, so they dodged as they didn't want to spend their reroll. They even had the nerve to ask other players to dodge for them first.

Dr JarjarbinksDec 1, 20142 votes

lol yes I have had that too. Someone asks for anyone else to dodge cus omg my champ/this comp/your face