You know, Tamat, in case you're wondering why there 'isn't enough discussion on M&M for maps to get their own sub-forums'? It's because you guys destroyed our community forums. Most everyone has left. So good job, I guess? You guys have silenced, marginalized, and ostracized everyone who is playing stuff other than Rift.
Icy Auron2 votes
still doesn't build out of 
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still grants 25% crit chance. It's just pure laziness. They don't even have a single person keeping an eye on anything other than SR. Why even bother having other maps if they aren't supported?
Dr Jarjarbinks1 votesI think your take is a little extreme being that currently there are tools available to create your own "aram section." Just search aram and specify how old the discussion can be and boom.
Really though this is more work, its less dependable and maybe most importantly I think people who would post won't only because they ASSUME no one will read it anyway.
Im saying I think its true Riot is damaging those communities by not more fully facilitating them, not even acknowledging their existence. When you think about it though it seems reasonable for them to not want to create competition for their own game. If ARAM became the standard mode how long before another company comes up with a game designed around that single mode. Now there is a whole, single community primed and ready to move on to this new game. Scary when you think about it that way if you are Riot.
Minarde4 votesWhen you think about it though it seems reasonable for them to not want to create competition for their own game. If ARAM became the standard mode how long before another company comes up with a game designed around that single mode. Now there is a whole, single community primed and ready to move on to this new game. Scary when you think about it that way if you are Riot.
I don't see how that's reasonable in the slightest. In this hypothetical situation where ARAM is the main mode and another company built a game specifically around ARAM, players have little reason to leave. Riot would presumably be supporting ARAM, being the standard mode, and thus players wouldn't have much incentive to switch games. They'd have to abandon everything they've invested into their accounts in exchange for possibly more focused support.
In contrast, Riot's current strategy of ignoring alternate maps gives players little reason to stay. Sure, they'd still have to abandon their accounts, but any support is better than nothing. Continued lack of support just makes entire communities slowly bleed away.
Dr Jarjarbinks1 votes1st i want to say everything I wrote/write is imo, nothing more.
By standard mode I meant as/more popular mode as SR. You say they have no incentive to leave but how do you know that a game designed around that and fully supported will be about the same as the riot version?
Why would people have to abandon everything they have invested in LoL?
I dont really know the effect of their lack of support and neither do you.
Minarde1 votesI don't, but neither do the players in this hypothetical scenario. They're losing their League investment if they leave, so the benefits must be more attractive in order for the players to decide to leave. Given that ARAM would be as popular as SR in this situation, I'm assuming that Riot would be supporting ARAM roughly as well as SR. As such, the choices would be to a) stay with League for decent support or b) leave League for possibly more support. My guess is that the majority of players would stay in that case.
Players would have to abandon their investment into League because they'd potentially be switching to a new game managed by a different company. Generally, you can't bring account properties (e.g. IP, RP, champions) with you when you move to a new game. Of course, this is assuming that players play either League or the ARAM-focused game, not both.
Correct, which is why I haven't used any specific numbers. All of this is hypothetical.
Dr Jarjarbinks1 votesIm not sure why it has to be an all or nothing thing with you. No one is losing any investments, they are all still here. You assume Riot would support it the same but I dont know if that is reasonable. Can it be monetized like SR? Can there be a pro scene like SR? It seems at least an oversimplification of such descisions.
Would this be a question riot would rather not answer? Maybe its not so clear if they should try to steer trends or ride them.
Finally just in case this is where the confusion was in what i said originally. Describing a scenario where a group "walks away" or "goes to another game" instead of an individual was my focus. The specifics of how many would leave or even what leave means I did not specify and that is my fault. I believe that any loss in time spent playing is loss in money for riot(microtransaction) and any loss in popularity(meaning people may play LESS not stop) leads to losses in sponsors and ads and all that good stuff. I was thinking out loud "if I were riot" and in that mind state I thought it was obvious I was speaking from a business perspective. Meaning "losing a community" would rarely mean that no member of that community ever plays again.
