Dual-Champ Mode

Crett·Feb 21, 2015·11 votes·2,314 views

Everyone picks two champs at the start of the game. One of your summoner spells is replaced by Tag-out, a 10 CD summoner spell that transforms you into the other champion you selected, and vice versa. Gold earned is given to both champions and is not shared. You can have separate builds for both of them. Playing as and the enemy team just caught you out? Surprise you are now Sion and ulting away

ult someone, transform into , their life is over.

IMAGinE the combinations. IMAGINE THE PLAYS.

26 Comments

insaiyanbaccaFeb 21, 20154 votes

oh my the jarvan ult turning into swain.......

Maximum ZileanFeb 21, 20153 votes

Would be hilarious. But would be ruined pretty damn fast as all other game modes have... People enforcing a meta and whatnot and never picking anything other then OP combinations IN A CASUAL FUN GAME MODE...

But yes I can imagine the nonsense that would come from this.

Xerath firing everything at enemies, just doing his job of killing things half the map away... And when he finally gets dove on...

BAM DrMundo

CrettFeb 21, 20151 votes

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Would be hilarious. But would be ruined pretty damn fast as all other game modes have... People enforcing a meta and whatnot and never picking anything other then OP combinations IN A CASUAL FUN GAME MODE...

But yes I can imagine the nonsense that would come from this.

firing everything at enemies, just doing his job of killing things half the map away... And when he finally gets dove on...

BAM

Yeah exactly lol I need people to upvote this thread so people can come in here and discuss the possible combos I'm actually seeing a large problem with the game mode, though. Dual burst mage combos would be problematic as heck.

PiratedcopyFeb 21, 20153 votes

Jayce and Elise early game with 4 abilities...

Chaotic ReksFeb 24, 20151 votes

good luck building against that

TheProAndrewFeb 21, 20153 votes

Malphite TAG Yasuo

CrettFeb 22, 20151 votes

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TAG

WOW that's a good one lol

ZacsRealmFeb 22, 20153 votes

Thresh Blitzcrank

Need I say more?

SukishooFeb 22, 20153 votes

That'd be an interesting mode, too bad it'd take a ridiculous amount of coding to pull off . Also with the way league is things might lag hard from switching builds/champions/abilities

CrettFeb 22, 20152 votes

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That'd be an interesting mode, too bad it'd take a ridiculous amount of coding to pull off . Also with the way league is things might lag hard from switching builds/champions/abilities

It wouldn't be too hard to code, I wouldn't think. Riot has the technology to change one champion to another.

SukishooFeb 22, 20151 votes

Yeah it would. You'd be changing models, skins, voices, abilities, visuals, ability icons... Then as you said having different builds, the builds icons and possible actives and such would change as well. There'd be a lot of work to go into that, plus as I said, doing so with so many different assets would cause the game to lag out hard. It wouldn't even be able to process that much info going on at one time.

CrettFeb 22, 20152 votes

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Yeah it would. You'd be changing models, skins, voices, abilities, visuals, ability icons... There'd be a lot of work to go into that, plus as I said, doing so with so many different assets would cause the game to lag out hard. It wouldn't even be able to process that much info going on at one time.

There's a sandbox mod on youtube right now that does just that without lag. Assets are not loaded on the fly; all this would take is a slightly longer load time.

SukishooFeb 22, 20151 votes

I've seen those, and they just have one person in them... if the system had to detect those changes going on for 10 people it would have a hard time to process that.

CrettFeb 22, 20152 votes

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I've seen those, and they just have one person in them... if the system had to detect those changes going on for 10 people it would have a hard time to process that.

It'd be presumptuous of me to assume I know the limits of their engine. You'd have to ask a Rioter who's worked on the tech.

EDIT: WHO'S THE WISE GUY WHAT'S BEEN DOWNVOTING ME

Maximum ZileanFeb 21, 20152 votes

Also a 3 second cooldown on the swap is probably waaaaaaaay to low. I would say 20 seconds so you atleast have some risk if you swap at a bad time.

CrettFeb 22, 20151 votes

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Also a 3 second cooldown on the swap is probably waaaaaaaay to low. I would say 20 seconds so you atleast have some risk if you swap at a bad time.

20 seconds is a bit high; thinking on it, I want the transformation to be a meaningful change in paradigm for you and your opponents. 3 seconds is too low, you're right. I think 10 seconds would be closer to the mark.

Missing NumberFeb 22, 20152 votes

sounds similar to a mode i concocted where you had 2 champs at the same time

summoner swap spell and summoner assist spell

the 2nd champion is an Bot AI that sticks near your champion, you can direct it by Alt+click and command it by pressing Assist followed by QWER

swap is obviously the same

Assist has 0 CD

CrettFeb 22, 20151 votes

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sounds similar to a mode i concocted where you had 2 champs at the same time

summoner swap spell and summoner assist spell

the 2nd champion is an Bot AI that sticks near your champion, you can direct it by Alt+click and command it by pressing Assist followed by QWER

swap is obviously the same

Assist has 0 CD

I thought that managing two champions would be a bit of an overload. I wanted an easily accessible ability that presented a change in paradigm for both you and your opponent.

CrettFeb 22, 20151 votes

I would say the beauty of this is that you can choose to complement the abilities of one champion with a champion that synergizes, or you can choose to cover their weaknesses.

You could try to take a champion that counters a specific champion ( MasterYi coming for the adc? Rammus bring it on guy), but this duality doesn't make you too powerful, because everyone else has access to the functionality as well.

On paper, it sounds really fun.

EDIT: WHAT DO YOU DISAGREE WITH ME? THAT WHY YOU DOWNVOTIN ME? TELL ME WHY HUH what if what if WHAT IF I JUST WENT UP TO EVERYTHING YOU SAID AND JUST POPPED A THUMBS DOWN ON IT FOR NO REASON HUH

Xx420n0sc0p3sxXFeb 22, 20151 votes

Kayle Tryndamere

Katarina Morgana

Warwick Malzahar

Amumu Galio

Anivia JarvanIV

Shaco Blitzcrank

And the list goes on and on......

RankffFeb 24, 20151 votes

The only way i would want this is if both champs you play as share the same % max health/mana? when you swap. I would also prefer if both champs you play as shared the same inventory. That would force you to be more considerate when choosing your 2 champs.

CrettFeb 24, 20151 votes

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The only way i would want this is if both champs you play as share the same % max health/mana? when you swap. I would also prefer if both champs you play as shared the same inventory. That would force you to be more considerate when choosing your 2 champs.

They should share the same % health (and mana unless their resources differ). If they shared the same inventory, that would reduce the diversity in playstyle and options the mode is supposed to be providing; why would I ever switch to a mage from an ADC?

RankffFeb 24, 20151 votes

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They should share the same % health (and mana unless their resources differ). If they shared the same inventory, that would reduce the diversity in playstyle and options the mode is supposed to be providing; why would I ever switch to a mage from an ADC?

Why would you? I mean you wouldn't would you? "That would force you to be more considerate when choosing your 2 champs."

CrettFeb 24, 20151 votes

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Why would you? I mean you wouldn't would you? "That would force you to be more considerate when choosing your 2 champs."

The question is which of those creates more interesting gameplay: Completely switching paradigms is a lot more interesting than going from one ADC to another ADC, or one tank to another tank. What the player should be considering is not whether itemization favors two particular champions, but how well their kits work together.

Chaotic ReksFeb 24, 20151 votes

JarvanIV + Gnar = profit