If the Lulu PBE nerfs go through, can we revert the Dominion map-specific nerfs?

SKOBODO·9/10/2015, 8:42:08 AM·20 votes·1,456 views

Lulu, right now, is not in a great spot in Dominion. Other supports and APs with utility do a similar job while doing much more damage. Even playing an offensive mage is generally better than playing Lulu that now. That's not to say that she's unviable, but she's a bit underpowered. This is apparently not the case on Summoner's Rift.

Two years ago, Lulu was overpowered and received map-specific nerfs. Since then she's gotten nerfed several times, losing a lot of utility and damage. She'd arguably we weaker now without map-specific nerfs than she was just after she received them, the nerfs are that significant. She's currently getting another nerf on the PBE. Her health is being reduced by 8 per level 144 at level 18. A Ruby Crystal costs 400 gold for 150 health, so she's almost losing out of 400 gold in health at level 18 (around 384.4 gold).

Lulu currently has the following map-specific nerfs: Wild Growth cooldown increased to 120/110/100 from 110/95/80.

I don't know how many times I've missed out of saving an ally because my ultimate was on cooldown for a few more seconds, but it's been many times. The map-specific nerfs are not insignificant at all. Lulu is no longer a top 20 champion on Dominion, she's not even a top 50 champion! The map-specific nerfs are unnecessary and should be removed.

22 Comments

The Bíg Ticket9/10/2015, 3:11:51 PM3 votes

Not like Riot has ever cared about Dominion.

SKOBODO9/13/2015, 10:52:46 AM3 votes

It seems to me that quite a few people think this is a good idea. Could we get a Riot response?

@ManWolfAxeBoss

Are there any other Rioters working on Dominion?

A Superb Villain9/10/2015, 12:12:34 PM2 votes

If Lulu needs a few tweaks to stay relevant in other game modes you can bet your Ashe I'd support the changes that do so.

SKOBODO9/15/2015, 8:10:58 PM2 votes

Well, Lulu got the hp/level nerfs and no relevant compensation for Dominion (gold generation items are pretty bad on Dominion). That was to be expected. Now is the time to get Riot to notice this topic (or some other way, Reddit/Twitter or something) so they can consider this issue.

So, yeah. Can we do it? Can we get Riot to notice us and respond? Let's try.

Mody bird9/10/2015, 9:58:52 PM1 votes

whats domination?

Hard Penetrator9/10/2015, 10:47:10 PM1 votes

I hope they will buff support lulu because bot lane is getting ridiculous with thresh every 2nd or 3rd game with vayne/jinx all the time.

manbearswine9/10/2015, 8:32:19 PM1 votes

What is this "dominion" you speak of?

The Bíg Ticket9/10/2015, 4:29:24 PM1 votes

Lulu is a dumb champ aynway.

Carry9/10/2015, 8:14:05 PM1 votes

I don't understand this post. Lulu is currently strong on both Dominion and TT even with the map specific nerfs. All map specific champion balance splits champions by [Dominion + TT] and [All other maps]. Are you suggesting we change that? Removing the nerf from both Dominion and TT would make Lulu extremely powerful in TT.

Buttigieg 20209/10/2015, 11:41:28 AM1 votes

Do-min-ion?