Moonflair Spellblade for Summoner's Rift?

Auturgist·Oct 18, 2014·4 votes·2,313 views

I main Elise in the jungle on Summoner's Rift, and during the Ascension event (which I loved), I often bought the Moonflair Spellblade pretty early, as I found that it gave me a great balance of stats for her. Obviously, her abilities and spiderlings scale off AP, and the extra Armor and Magic Resist would help her to gank any lane without worrying that she will be too squishy. Additionally, Tenacity isn't available on very many items, and she would already rather purchase Sorcerer's Shoes or Ionian Boots of Lucidity for more damage or lesser cooldowns.

So, my question is: why can't we have this item in Summoner's Rift?

12 Comments

Hrothgar the redOct 19, 20143 votes

Riot should at least looking into adding more items with tenacity or removing it completely and have more items that just debuff cc

ValyrianBladeOct 18, 20141 votes

I think it's typically a balance issue... it would probably instantly make a lot of champions who would use it overpowered relative to those who wouldn't.

I mean, alternatively consider if the items built out of Wicked Hatchet were available on Summoner's rift? ADCs could build IE and then LVDP or LB and they'd not only have their good critical chance but their crits would either do 300% damage or 250% damage and extra 50% DOT (with true sight). Either way this would make a lot of standard ADCs really overpowered and ADCs like Lucien/Ezreal/Vayne/Kog'maw (any others) who typically build BotRK/TF/YG etc... would be a lot weaker relatively (not to mention ADCs would become a lot stronger in general opposed to the other roles).

RoyceRollinOct 18, 20143 votes

I think it's typically a balance issue... it would probably instantly make a lot of champions who would use it overpowered relative to those who wouldn't.

I mean, alternatively consider if the items built out of Wicked Hatchet were available on Summoner's rift? ADCs could build IE and then LVDP or LB and they'd not only have their good critical chance but their crits would either do 300% damage or 250% damage and extra 50% DOT (with true sight). Either way this would make a lot of standard ADCs really overpowered and ADCs like Lucien/Ezreal/Vayne/Kog'maw (any others) who typically build BotRK/TF/YG etc... would be a lot weaker relatively (not to mention ADCs would become a lot stronger in general opposed to the other roles).

except moonflair used to be on SR where as LVDP is the IE tuned for treeline

KaWraithOct 18, 20142 votes

except moonflair used to be on SR

The current moonflair bears little in common with the old SR moonflair: SR moonflair had 40 ap, and tenacity, no AR, no MR.

Moonflair is an OP item, and would be broken on SR, so you aren't going to get it.

Champion SkinOct 19, 20142 votes

That wouldn't really be all that good... As Wicked Hatchet itself wouldn't be strong enough in and ADC's finished build and item 3104 Lord Van Damm's Pillager is item 3031 IE

That would pretty much like saying that if Mages could build two item 3089 rabadon's deathcaps and get their AP amplified twice it would be op... Of course it would...

Moonflair spellblade doesn't hyper scale any stat and it would be nice with some more options when it comes to tenacity other then Merc Treds or Zephyr

exiledFromBadmenOct 18, 20141 votes

I feel your pain bro.

Maybe nerfing its stats before putting on the Summoner's Rift?

Earl EulrichOct 19, 20142 votes

50 AP 50 Armor 50 MR Tenacity

0 Health

...i don´t see how this would be broken in any way.

Garlyle WildsOct 19, 20141 votes

Spellblade exists for an environment where AP casters need these things a lot more to really survive. See also why TT/Dom has Wooglet's instead of Rabaddon's and Zhonya's.

Not that I'd be objected, because the options for building "tanky AP" definitely don't feel as strong as I'd like, but yeah. Different things for different needs.

Earl EulrichOct 19, 20142 votes

except it´s not really an item for ap-caster, but for ap-bruiser. And those really lack items, there are very few defesive items for AP-champs, especially concerning def-stats.

Sire HippingtonOct 19, 20142 votes

I din't think different things for different needs is a valid reason to not give item 3170 to summoners: Ap-bruisers are rarly seen in SR -> they **need **proper itemisation -> for SR, problem solved.

Bad HavokOct 21, 20141 votes

it would be really nice because then i could drop a ga for it and get the defenses because having to drop sorc boots for merc treads screws the dmg when i play Annie and plus i dont think a zypher would help my build at all lmao