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I was just permanently banned for toxicity...

Auturgist·2/12/2017, 8:43:31 AM·8 votes·4,595 views

...even though in every instance I was dealing with someone MORE toxic or disrespectful and, in some cases, other people on my team (strangers, not people I queued with) were on my side in terms of dealing with the other player.

I feel so fucking cheated. After my suspension, I've been really trying to keep my temper down, but I'm bipolar and when I play ranked, I CARE ABOUT WINNING. I never intentionally feed or troll and I'm always trying to help my team as best I can. I get toxic when other players are deliberately trolling, or keep making the same mistake over and over despite being warned by myself or other teammates -- not mechanical mistakes, mind you, but things like overextending or split-pushing alone without vision. Last night, in one of the games in my chat log, I was dealing with someone who admitted in champ select he was drunk and started intentionally feeding in game. Just now, a toplaner who was 0/4 blaming me (jungler) for his deaths, even though I had secured a drake and ganked for botlane multiple times... like it's MY fault he can't play safely. Our midlaner was even telling him he was wrong and needed to play safer. But somehow I get reported and banned for giving him the same shit he's giving me right back?

Riot as a company is so fucked with this policy. I've spent a lot of money on League. I'm not an asshole to people for no reason, ever. Like, I don't troll or feed intentionally or do any of the shit that makes me want to be toxic to people. And, honestly, I don't understand why turning off chat isn't just an option. I can admit that sometimes I get heated, FOR THE RIGHT REASONS, and when I am chat restricted, I tend to be fine. But I think it's highly unfair that I lose access to my account while the kind of assholes I'm toxic to get to continue playing. Fuck them, and fuck Riot if your policy is really to ban me and players like me instead of addressing these root causes.

27 Comments

Sarutobi2/12/2017, 8:48:57 AM6 votes

Just because someone started it, or was worse doesnt excuse that you broke the rules!

TheLastShadow452/12/2017, 9:34:54 AM5 votes

even though in every instance I was dealing with someone MORE toxic or disrespectful

The actions of others does not excuse your own actions. You must take responsibility for what you did and so will they in do time.

grug2/12/2017, 8:47:14 AM4 votes

you're not supposed to fight back.

that's how riot wants it, retaliation is a bad thing apparently.

SoulAced2/12/2017, 7:05:09 PM3 votes

This entire chat seems to explain perfectly about why you were banned. You essentially put up this discussion because you were angry and wanted people to comfort you by agreeing with your point of view that "even though i was toxic, he was MORE toxic" and now that no one is agreeing with you, you get angry and yell at all o them as if it will fix the problem. Even more so, if you put this up here in hopes that someone at Riot will see it and "realize they messed up and un-ban you", then all the stuff in this post that you have said to these other players that responded will just prove to the Rioter that you are toxic.

Yes the other guy should have been banned to, but you seem like you got everything you deserved.

Ward Baron2/12/2017, 9:02:18 AM3 votes

I'm sorry you feel shamed and are told to think of yourself as "toxic". You are not a bad person this is subjective and a terrible way to make you think of yourself. This isn't much different then a female who enjoys sex being slut shamed. Think about it, before League of Legends did you ever hear anyone you know call you "toxic"? "Toxic" was created by someone else's morality at Riot Games, it isn't part of reality. Scientology behaves the same way, get members to file reports on others who act in a way that isn't inline with the church. In the end, you will be stronger. People who get on this "toxic" trip are going to have a hard time dealing with real life when the morality police don't come protect them from swears.

ModUlanopo2/12/2017, 4:15:29 PM2 votes

Two Tribes: Why you don't understand your ban

I wrote that a long time ago to help explain bans to people in your position. You're in the "competitive" camp, which is to say it seems you strongly favor winning over play experience. There's nothing wrong with that. You just have to remember the desires of the other camp are just as valid as yours and both positions can coexist. In fact, they have to.

The problem you're experiencing is the belief that frustration over other peoples' play can be a justification for toxicity. This is NEVER the case.

Deep Terror Nami2/12/2017, 8:52:32 AM2 votes

I was dealing with someone MORE toxic

Were you "dealing" with it by solving the problem so that players were able to focus on the game, or were you becoming another distraction and making it worse? This is a very important distinction to make when responding to a negative player; if you're just retaliating with your own toxicity, it's not helping any and tends to exacerbate the problem instead.

If someone is being overly reckless and repeatedly dying for risks not worth taking, they don't need to hear they are bad or be told they made a bad call; they were there and they already know it didn't work. Try to lead them in a constructive and positive manner so that they are more willing to follow you. If you piss them off they are more likely to ignore you and/or play worse, which is obviously counter productive to you and harmful to your team, and why they'd be reporting you for it.

When they are just being toxic in chat, you don't need to listen to it so just mute them, and don't respond if it's going to make it worse or keep an argument going. Pings are more than enough for communicating most of the time.

Alpha Samsuni2/12/2017, 5:43:14 PM1 votes

{quoted} That player in my game was far worse than me. Why am I banned???

I'll keep this one simple: those other players in your game that you thought were worse are probably also banned. Nearly 100% of the time, those players were banned even before you were. If someone is being toxic, just report them and move on.

We strongly believe that it is not OK to retaliate. If a player refuses to cooperate and says something negative, then players should ignore the player and report them after the game. Players can ignore or mute players by pressing the “Mute” button on the Scoreboard [when you hit TAB] in the game.

If a player retaliates and says something bad back, then the two of you have made a negative experience for potentially the other 8 players in the game. Rarely do teams start working together better when players begin fighting back—great games only happen when players cooperate and don’t make the issues even worse by fighting back and forth.

RookPusher2/12/2017, 9:07:19 PM1 votes

You should mute everyone if you're going to get angry. Any potential positives are outweighed by your toxicity.

What folks like you don't quite get is that you're contributing to your own loss. You should sit in a chair, facing a blank wall, and repeat 100 times a day "My anger causes me to lose games"

Try it as you grow your new account.

just OK jungler2/12/2017, 9:11:07 PM1 votes

Spending money on league is optional, it's not their fault if they banned an acc with +$300 moneys worth of rp, It's your fault for spending so much, and If your bipolar league isnt the game for you man. (play gmod or some other thing)

DiegoLavega9/30/2017, 11:45:54 PM1 votes

You people are so ignorant you dont even see what the man means and just make excuses before you even acknowledge what it means. Anyways chatlog reports and bans are ridiculous since there is a mute button, GG riot. Totally agree with you dude.