Teemo & Karthus disabled in One For All queue

RiotL4T3NCY·Oct 15, 2015·10 votes·25,084 views

Heya guys, quick PSA.

Teemo and Karthus have historically been disabled in the One For All game mode (their core fantasies create a degenerate play pattern for the opposing team, that goes above and beyond what the other champions can accomplish), but this morning they were accidentally still enabled for a few hours. We've since disabled them in the One For All queue.

You can still use Teemo & Karthus in custom games if you want to though, on the map of your choice! :D

80 Comments

yay nibbersOct 15, 201528 votes

What's the point of the ban phase then?

TŒŒMØOct 15, 201523 votes

So Teemo Teemo is a problem and Heimerdinger is not?

We do have a banning phase in this mode. No reason to disable anybody item 3070

coryluluOct 15, 20159 votes

Teemo isn't a problem with 5 minute duration shrooms. This is silly. I played it a few times in PBE and it was by no means OP. Nowhere near as powerful as Heimerdinger, Morde, Darius, Shaco, Lux, Tahm Kench, etc.

SettDownShutUpOct 16, 20152 votes

A) Holy crap Mordekaiser.

B) I'm so relieved that they don't all get a dragon minion.

Cor DirgeOct 25, 20151 votes

in a 5 man premade we played donger twice. ezreal destroyed us and maokai just 5x ultied for the ace... donger is fun but shite in one for all

Che GimperaOct 16, 201514 votes

Teemo and Karthus wants you to downvote this thread to unban them!!

Archon XOct 15, 201513 votes

"their core fantasies create a degenerate play pattern for the opposing team"

in other words, the turds who play one for all are too lazy to buy a banshees and will proceed to spam support tickets about how unfair those champs are.

Surely Not PipouOct 15, 201511 votes

Meanwhile.. Darius !

We played Teemo vs Darius, guess who was concerned by "their core fantasies create a degenerate play pattern for the opposing team" :)

ElisaiOct 15, 20154 votes

Let's walk in. And press Q. And Win... = 5 Darius's in a nutshell. (THEY DONT EVEN HAVE TO ULT AND THEIR PASSIVES WORK TOGETHER)

coryluluOct 15, 20154 votes

While with Teemo, their poisons literally counter each other because they don't stack on top of each other.

ZerfallenOct 16, 20151 votes

Same thing with Malz's E. Huge damage loss and never going to try Malz on OfA again >.<

EphemerionOct 16, 20151 votes

Does 5 Malz not work if some (if not all) go AD?

ZerfallenOct 17, 20151 votes

You can but a lot of Malz's reliable damage is in his E's DoT.

The DoTs override each other so unless you can coordinate who you are going to E then you lose a lot of your damage potential.

RottedApplesOct 16, 20151 votes

But when they do ult together, my god is it hilarious.

lofi n chillhopOct 16, 20151 votes

you want hilarious chain ulting go urgot CX

DTPandemoniumOct 17, 20151 votes

This is so true, + the fact that Darius can just build full tank of the opposing team's damage type and become unkillable as well. Granted you cant build a single defence some games because they could have different damage type builds but usually you can.

Murphys LawyerOct 15, 20158 votes

So much for the claim that "all champions" would be available for this mode. Two exceptions equals two direct lies to your community.

FlipyflopiesOct 15, 20158 votes

Won vs Karthus earlier before he was disabled with Veigar . Just built tank+ap and item 3060 + item 3512 . We just all took summoner 12 and split pushed all day.

Che GimperaOct 16, 20158 votes

OFA was never meant to be fair or balanced. If it was, champions like Syndra and Darius would also be perma-banned. Disabling champions for low stakes game modes is a terrible decision that saddles Riot with the burden of vetting champions every time they roll out a gimmicky play mode. This should NOT be the case.

You made the champions, we bought them, now let us play the champions that we want without having to bounce from custom game to custom game for half an hour only to get stuck with 5-man Yi.

MerxamersOct 15, 20156 votes

Sounds like we need a Karthus vs Teemo custom deathmatch

KFC OverlordOct 19, 20151 votes

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Sounds like we need a Karthus vs Teemo custom deathmatch

Karthus would win. His ult is broken in OFA

CannabisOverlordOct 16, 20156 votes

Might as well get rid of the ban phase then riot, if your going to ban people yourself.

TerraRisingOct 15, 20155 votes

You should consider Mordekaiser. Did that against a team of monkeys and it was disgusting how big we got.

coryluluOct 15, 20153 votes

Yeah, Morde is much worse. In PBE, my team played him and could force a teamfight at 12 minutes, win because we have insane sustain, then push 100% into their base and end without anyone needing to recall and killing them as they respawn.

Teemo isn't even a problem with his 5 minute duration shrooms. And I played it quite a few times on PBE... Not at all OP.

PartholonianOct 16, 20152 votes

If a team of 5 Mordes takes dragon, do they get 5 ghosts?

coryluluOct 15, 20155 votes

With the 5 minute shrooms, Teemo is FAR less oppressive of a pick than he was last year. He shouldn't be disabled in this mode, he has numerous counters and plenty of other champions are far more oppressive.

shadowlordkiroOct 15, 20154 votes

got a teemo mirror match this morning it was hilarious

UKidsGetOffMyLANOct 15, 20153 votes

Oh come on...

I would have loved to play Teemo, and there are much worse game composition champs for one-for-all queue out there. Not cool!

FeelTheBreezeOct 16, 20153 votes

everyone is item 3070 over Teemo being disabled poor Karthus how is he broken in one for all ? ban Darius or TahmKench who have just broken passives that the others in their team can stack !!! XD summoner 30

PS2Oct 16, 20153 votes

What about champions that create a degenerate play pattern in normal games? Your should permanently disable Leblanc, Fizz, and Singed because of the play pattern they create.

iArkLyteOct 16, 20153 votes

I'm sorry, but after having played a few games so far, Heimer and Darius are far more abusive than Teemo or Karthus. Heimers can push down to Inhib in the first 6 minutes if you don't aram and Darius is just "GG, First Win of the Day" in a nutshell.

Kholdstare13Oct 15, 20152 votes

Have you fixed Teemo's bug yet? The one introduced when he gained thrown/bouncing and (too high) hit-count health?) Shrooms arming while inside true sight/trap detection (briefly?) stealth through it and screw up the auto-pathing of melees trying to clear them so that they run straight into them instead.

Sozan5Oct 16, 20151 votes

The shrooms should arm even when if enemy team have true sight (though, they should be revealed constantly, so that might be a bug (can't say I encountered it though)).

Kholdstare13Oct 16, 20153 votes

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The shrooms should arm even when if enemy team have true sight (though, they should be revealed constantly, so that might be a bug (can't say I encountered it though)).

The point is that they stealth THROUGH the reveal. Arming by itself is not a problem. The problem is when you are a melee champion safely attacking it and it vanishes anyway, forcing you to auto-path straight into it and explode.

Quality ContentOct 15, 20152 votes

Could you disabled Darius and Tahm while you're at it? Most champs have zero way to deal with these guys in one for all.

Che GimperaOct 15, 20152 votes

I literally waited all day to get home from work to play this and you tell me Teemo is disabled. <^> Rito

Reaper KarthusOct 16, 20152 votes

Aaaaaaand I'm sad now.

RellikDlocOct 16, 20152 votes

I agree, no one should be disabled. Their disabled for their "degenerate play pattern" they bring to the table. Really! Of all things for this issue, you choose to disable the champions. C'mon. For one thing your disabling the champion for being himself/herself, and that's just wrong. For another thing that is what banning phase is for, and at the end of the game when you have a degenerate player or players and not degenerate champions, that's what the report button is for.

RottedApplesOct 16, 20152 votes

Karthus kinda makes sense. If 5 karthi (the plural of karthus) ulted together that would be silly. But that is the point of this game mode and they can only do it every couple of minutes.

Also we have a banning phase dammit.

Little Stick ManOct 18, 20152 votes

Annie Azir Blitzcrank Ekko Cassiopeia Darius Fizz Garen Heimerdinger Kalista Katarina Lux Yorick ...but this is ok???????????????????

MeIzPowerfulOct 18, 20151 votes

Logged in to upvote. I've had matches as heim and blitz, hilariously op.

Wind WhistlerOct 18, 20151 votes

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...but this is ok???????????????????

Outrange Annie. Burst down Azir. Be someone with a good engage for Blitzcrank who can punish grabs, or just build MR and crush them mid game. Burst Brand down. Don't know about Ekko. Don't know about Cass. Pick Gnar or anyone who can kite and kick Darius ass. Don't know about Fizz. Just fucking ban Garen from the start. Outrange Heimerdinger. Kalista? Really? Outrange Kat. Learn how to dodge skillshots for Lux. Forfeit for Yorick. And lastly, get better at the game, which you probably need to do.

Little Stick ManOct 19, 20151 votes

if you cant outrange annie then what? it's kind of hard to burst down 5 azirs, you know o4a is blind right so kinda hard to pick someone with good engage for blitz, once again bursting down 5 brands all with those bouncing ults and aoe is pretty hard, again this is blind so if you dont have a kiting champ youre fucked against 5 darius's, same problem with annie applies to heimer, the thing about dodging skillshots is if they hit even 1 bind youre dead, 5 kalistas with that mobility and rend, and AGAIN we run into the blindness of o4a and not being able to for sure outrange kat. get better at logic, which you definitly need to do dumbass.

Wind WhistlerOct 19, 20151 votes

So, what you're telling me is that since you and many other people have gotten bad matchups with the enemy team, the champions that they used should be disabled? It all depends on the matchup, if you could outrange Annie and kill her every single game then she would be trash and no one would use her. Hope you understand better. Sorry I came across as such a dick, I get mad seeing people complain about the same champions over and over again.

Little Stick ManOct 19, 20151 votes

No champs should be disabled, we have banning for a reason. But if the logic they used when disabling karth and teemo is it would be broken and unfun, thats retarded because the champions I listed create the same op scenarios. Disabling champions altogether in a for fun game mode is dumb shit

ShinyElbowGreaseOct 19, 20152 votes

signed in just to down vote --.--

NeoazarosOct 17, 20151 votes

So you'll ban teemo and Kathus who create a "degenerate play pattern" EVEN THOugh ItS EAsILy Countered, But you wont ban: Lux, For having infinite cc on a 5 second cool down, coupled with instaburst that fucking Syrian refugees can feel Morgana, who makes kids autistic kids with polio look more mobile than the opposing team Heimer, when Nuking japan wasn't enough, you threw heimer into OFA, whos has 8 times the current Dong Bombs that japan felt Darius, who can dunk you into the Nth dimension Tahm kench, Because whats more satisfying than eating more than paula dean Shaco, because my asshole just wasn't loose enough after the lux encounter Vladimir, Because apparently fuck you and everything you're worth And Zyra, Because whats more fun than getting knocked up more times than a rich teenage white girl. Honestly, if you are going to bitch about negative gameplay, Now, in a game mode that will end sooner than a few weeks you better fucking address the issues plaguing average league players everyday in Normals. don't you dare assume that you can determine whats " Degenerate play pattern" when you can barely determine whats healthy gameplay either, In A CONTROLLED SCENARIO. hands down the worst Gaming corporation ive ever seen. GG rito, hope your game dies within the next year