Kayle's VGU and what "I" would like to see from it.

Sexy Jack Rabbit··16 votes·2,204 views

Now I will say that this post has nothing to do with Kayle's kit, and frankly I couldn't' care less what they do with her kit. This post is about her design and character, and just a short list of things I would like to see remain/go when they update her.

http://www.mobafire.com/images/champion/skins/landscape/kayle-classic.jpg

  1. Keep her Armored: Now I'm going to be called an Armor snob for this, which, well yeah is true. I fucking love Armor, Ironstylus was effectively a god of mine. Amongst all of the champions in League and despite her Gameplay style feeling stale at times, she has always looked plainly badass to me. To this day her updated Classic Splash-art remains to be one of my favorite artworks in the game. Besides Leona there really isn't any other champion in the game who consistently appeals to Armor snobs, and I'd love if Kayle retained that niche come her VGU.

  2. I'd love for her to retain her helmet in her classic (not the same exact helmet but you get my idea) come her VGU, it's such a defining feature of her character, and I'd really be quite sad to see it go.

It think it would be A REALLY good opportunity for the design team to play around with a character who emotes primarily through body language. We've seen Poppy with full facial animations, I'd love to see Kayle see fully detailed body animations. On top of all of that, it's not unlike you wouldn't ever see her face. A majority of her skins have her showing her face (not a bad thing), one of which a HUGE part of the community actually own. Keeping her face covered would also imo contribute really well to her Duality with Morgana's theme of Freedom and Exposure (Even if they change their themes in the VGU, I'm sure some part of that aspect will remain).

  1. Adjust her Personality. Now I totally 100% understand people's gripe with every character in league coming across as "Goofy" or "Edgy" but I seriously think Kayle needs somewhat of an Attitude adjustment. I think that yeah, there should be some more serious characters in the game, but there is nothing sympathetic or charismatic, about a character who sounds like they have a stick up their butt. I'm not saying make her like Poppy or Tristana by any means, just add more flavor to her.

  2. Skin Retainments: These are just some small things I'd like to see remain in her skins if they were to update her.

Riot Kayle: Electricity effects. In my opinion this would be a really nice skin to receive some new VFX.

Iron Inquisitor: Fire Halo. Regardless of which direction they take the champion, I think this skin having this to be an extremely cool effect. Even if the Halo is removed come her update, it'd be cool to see this skin retain it.

Aether Wing Kayle: New VO and VFX. This one seems a given, but irregardless I hope we see something like Gatekeeper Galio done to this skin.

Judgement Kayle: Glowing Eyes. No real reason, I just think they look neat!

Unmasked Kayle: Just a thought, I suppose I could see this skin actually remaining the same, and effectively acting as a OG Kayle skin.

These are just my randoms thoughts and idea of what I would like to see when it comes around to updating Kayle's visuals and gameplay. I would have probably done one for Morgana, but it would mostly just be about what elements need to be retained and changed in each of her skins. Opinions are always welcome :)

EDIT: Some formating and grammar.

15 Comments

GreenLore7 votes

Well I guess she kinda needs to keep the helmet,because otherwise unmasked kayle is kinda pointless(but then again I could imagine that this skin gets a complete overhaul anyway).

But I agree that she needs to stay fully armored,as that is something that is completely unique to her(other armored champs either don't wear helmets or in Pantheons case not even pants),not to mention that her armor actually adds to her character as its been explained that she conceals herself so much to isolate herself from others,to make it easier for her to carry out her duty.

Sexy Jack Rabbit1 votes

I mean I guess with her current lore in mind you have a really good point.

I suppose they could pull a Human Ryze/Young Ryze scenario and just rename the skin if need be? But that would seriously suck imo.

But yes I would really love her to keep her armor as well :)

LostFr0st3 votes

One thing I really hope they don't do is go full Hextech on Aether wing Kayle.

The changes to Hextech Galio have me very worried for Kayle and Anivia because I liked the golden minimalistic sleek machine design of those skins and bought them due to exactly that.

Sexy Jack Rabbit2 votes

I suppose it would depend on the design direction. Currently Aether Wing seems to come from a much more Star Craft Terran inspired direction, whereas Hextech tends to lean more towards Magical Steampunk.

I believe they'll do good by the skin regardless :) Riot tends to try and keep Legendary skins Unique for the most part. I'm sure they won't just lump it in with a bunch of other sci-fi skins.

LostFr0st1 votes

Not saying that hextech Galio is bad, just saying it used to fit with Aether wing, and now it's very different.

I love Aether Wing's design so much :< I don't like the new hextech at all though. Could be just me; if it is I'll concede to the masses but probably won't ever end up using it.

Kàyle8 votes

Aetherwing really has a distinct alternative "Utopian" theme to it, that's really neat. I don't think that would fit with it's theme very well...

LostFr0st1 votes

^This exactly. I want to make sure it's clearly stated that they're different, and that Aether wing is valuable as its own concept. I also kinda hope they expand the line in the future >.> because it's really cool.

Kàyle3 votes

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Now I will say that this post has nothing to do with Kayle&#039;s kit, and frankly I couldn&#039;t&#039; care less what they do with her kit. This post is about her design and character, and just a short list of things I would like to see remain/go when they update her.

http://www.mobafire.com/images/champion/skins/landscape/kayle-classic.jpg

  1. Keep her Armored: Now I&#039;m going to be called an Armor snob for this, which, well yeah is true. I fucking love Armor, Ironstylus was effectively a god of mine. Amongst all of the champions in League and despite her Gameplay style feeling stale at times, she has always looked plainly badass to me. To this day her updated Classic Splash-art remains to be one of my favorite artworks in the game. Besides Leona there really isn&#039;t any other champion in the game who consistently appeals to Armor snobs, and I&#039;d love if Kayle retained that niche come her VGU.

100%. She's the manifestation of "Justice," "Innocence," and "Purity." in league of legends. She's the good angel, and i find it 100% necessary to preserve the armor because of that underlying theme. I wouldn't mind "Feminine" armor, as long as they keep her classy. She isn't really set to be defined as a "large armor" wearer imo, but problably more like an angelic daedric light armor style would be pretty cool.

Her character in this case, i don't really see her being like Nasus V. Renekton where renekton cries about nasus in his VO constantly. However, i can problably see subtle lines referencing her injustice, and malice.

  1. I&#039;d love for her to retain her helmet in her classic (not the same exact helmet but you get my idea) come her VGU, it&#039;s such a defining feature of her character, and I&#039;d really be quite sad to see it go.

It think it would be A REALLY good opportunity for the design team to play around with a character who emotes primarily through body language. We&#039;ve seen Poppy with full facial animations, I&#039;d love to see Kayle see fully detailed body animations. On top of all of that, it&#039;s not unlike you wouldn&#039;t ever see her face. A majority of her skins have her showing her face (not a bad thing), one of which a HUGE part of the community actually own. Keeping her face covered would also imo contribute really well to her Duality with Morgana&#039;s theme of Freedom and Exposure (Even if they change their themes in the VGU, I&#039;m sure some part of that aspect will remain).

I agree with this too. However, i do disagree with the meaning and that's something interesting. They should really keep the duality of interpretation in her lore where these things that mean "justice" and "innocence" and "freedom" can be applied to others. I want this expanded on actually, and i would love to have the ability to put helms on between her skins kind of like Rengar and some others.

  1. Adjust her Personality. Now I totally 100% understand people&#039;s gripe with every character in league coming across as &quot;Goofy&quot; or &quot;Edgy&quot; but I seriously think Kayle needs somewhat of an Attitude adjustment. I think that yeah, there should be some more serious characters in the game, but there is nothing sympathetic or charismatic, about a character who sounds like they have a stick up their butt. I&#039;m not saying make her like Poppy or Tristana by any means, just add more flavor to her.

Fuck. That. She has a serious ideological battle, and culture war that she has to contend with her thoughts and emotions. She can show more personal relations with those ideas, but they need to exist. I think Aether Wing has a decent expansion on here theme currently, and i want to see that pushed EVEN more further on her classic skin.

  1. Skin Retainments: These are just some small things I&#039;d like to see remain in her skins if they were to update her.

Riot Kayle: Electricity effects. In my opinion this would be a really nice skin to receive some new VFX.

Iron Inquisitor: Fire Halo. Regardless of which direction they take the champion, I think this skin having this to be an extremely cool effect. Even if the Halo is removed come her update, it&#039;d be cool to see this skin retain it.

Aether Wing Kayle: New VO and VFX. This one seems a given, but irregardless I hope we see something like Gatekeeper Galio done to this skin.

Judgement Kayle: Glowing Eyes. No real reason, I just think they look neat!

Unmasked Kayle: Just a thought, I suppose I could see this skin actually remaining the same, and effectively acting as a OG Kayle skin.

These are just my randoms thoughts and idea of what I would like to see when it comes around to updating Kayle&#039;s visuals and gameplay. I would have probably done one for Morgana, but it would mostly just be about what elements need to be retained and changed in each of her skins. Opinions are always welcome :)

The AA animations need to be dealt with, and some newer models would be really cool. Love your suggestions.

Lanceworks2 votes

Nice to see someone actually noticing that their opinion doesn't reflect everyone elses.

Side note: I really want to know how they could possibly make Unmasked Kayle a worthwhile skin. At least something like Rusty Blitzcrank has some potential for a potential VU.

EROTIC RAID BOSS2 votes

So here's a question- how do they tackle the fact that currently she's basically an angel and morgana is basically a devil? this seems totally incongruent with modern league's lore.

I'd personally love to see them expand on the darkin and make kayle and morgana members of that race- while showing a larger variance in what the species can look like compared to what we see from aatrox.

would also be nice to see what riot would do with winged champions- I could easily see a morgana VU where she actually looks chained but during her ult she flings the chains off her wings onto enemies and spreads her wings wide

Valeckserai2 votes

I agree with everything... EXCEPT the personality changes you suggest. I want them to add more dialogue to enhance her current personality and do a better job of it than they are currently, not water it down with something else. She's the embodiment of justice, righteousness, and everything pure and holy, and I think that keeping this personality is a must for that. Change her dialogue and voice actress to make them better (both are pretty lackluster imo) so that it can be good, but don't change the personality, it's one of the things that makes her an angel, that makes her Kayle.

Lord Phazanor 2 votes

"Besides Leona there really isn't any other champion in the game who consistently appeals to Armor snobs"
Morde was numero uno :'( :'( :'(

Sexy Jack Rabbit2 votes

Both Morde and Jarvan are far too aged to appeal to the niche anymore.

  • Kayle is the only example besides Leona (Who doesn't always, but does for the most part) of a female champion that appeals to the niche.
LunSeiSleidee1 votes

Excuse me, you call yourself an "armor snob" yet you like Kayle's updated splash art? One of these things contradicts the other....

Sexy Jack Rabbit1 votes

I mean she's still fully armored, and whilst I'm an armor snob I don't think it has to be 100% realistic. Proper Fantasy Armor can look fantastic.

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