Vote for a Champion VGU for 2020!

AnotherPurple379·5/9/2019, 5:10:35 PM·14 votes·14,735 views
Choose a Champion Update for 2020!

Hey, so you now have the option to vote for which Champion you want to have a visual and gameplay update in 2020! I believe this was mentioned have been coming before, and now that it's available, you're able to voice your opinion now!

Personally, I'm torn between Shyvana or Volibear. I think in the past I wanted a Nocturne one, but now that I think of it, I think it's a good idea to update Champions that are already directly associated with others.

So feel free to vote now and let your opinion be heard!

44 Comments

The Iceborn5/9/2019, 5:15:37 PM13 votes

I was actually expecting a Voli VGU end of this year... I voted for him, his kit is absolutely dreadful and lore needs a solid update.

Ravenhale5/9/2019, 7:08:31 PM8 votes

I went with Fiddlesticks because he needs everything: new Lore, new model and I guess they have something in mind for his kit (I don't play him so I don't have a strong opinion on his kit).

For that matter, the only one on the list that I play on occasion is Shyvana, and I've never thought she was in need of large scale VGU. Her lore is okay, her visuals aren't horrible and her kit is... well it's simplistic, which is not necessarily a bad thing. Maybe give her a passive that isn't tied to murdering dragons so she can actually have one outside of summoner's rift?

But if the argument is that she's not delivering the fantasy she was meant to fulfill (the reasons Evelynn and Irelia were reworked), then I guess I'm just one of those old timers that has grown attached to her boring, non-thematic kit. I'm sure the few Volibear mains out there know what I mean.

Anihaku5/9/2019, 9:05:16 PM5 votes

Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks for the win!

Annoxis5/9/2019, 7:55:40 PM5 votes

That is interesting. I remember a Rioter saying before that they wouldn't start a VGU on a champion if they didn't have a strong direction for it. If Riot is doing this, it either means :

  • They have a solid direction for each of these, and decided that community involvement was interesting to see which should be prioritized. It also means that we may choosing the order of the next 5 VGU instead of only the next ones.
  • They have enough experience with VGU and thrust in their creative process for choosing a character, then finding what would work with it for a VGU. I am curious for which it is.
mrmeddyman5/9/2019, 8:59:15 PM4 votes

Which pick is the "lore" pick

Volibear right?

Mundo, Fiddlesticks and Nocturne are disconnected from most of the champion pool and are likely to stay that way...

Or because Volibear has already got his "lore VGU" of sorts being featured in stories so recently should I pick one of those disconnected champs so that they can find a place. I don't play any of these champs or necessary like their lore atm so that's my only motivation.

Can we reach a consensus and use our powers to influence the game in our own selfish way that would make Gameplay roll over in their graves?

(Edit: Went with Fiddlesticks he's the only champ that has no place whatsoever in the lore and never interacted with another champion)

SociopathFriend5/9/2019, 8:58:15 PM4 votes

I definitely chose Volibear since I believe there's some new lore about him basically being this undying walking wound of death bear-god and so help me that's not the direction I get for him now and it is a direction I very much would like to see him go more towards.

Fiddlesticks was my runner-up and for all his faults you can't really argue he still IS a scarecrow running around using black magic. To a degree he still matches the lore unlike Volibear who in almost no way resembles what I believe he should be.

The more physical nature of Voli's current kit (charge forwards, bite, slam ground, cast lightning with every blow) also makes me think he should have priority over Fiddlesticks as he's a mage and so honestly regardless of what his model animation is- at the end of the day the spell itself is what people care about instead of how the spell looks. It's more important (IMO) that Voli's physical skills be telegraphed as opposed to Fiddlestick's because it's very important whether Voli is charging at you with his Q, healing with his passive, got his full frenzy stacks for his W, etc.

Ebonmaw Dragon5/9/2019, 6:17:28 PM3 votes

Great its a popularity contest instead of choosing the one that needs it most.

Garentheon5/9/2019, 6:25:10 PM3 votes

I was torn between shyvana and Voli also.

I ended up on Voli

Camille Ferrøs5/9/2019, 5:14:33 PM2 votes

How do I vote 3 times... [zombie-nunu-bummed]

EdgeLady5/9/2019, 7:18:33 PM2 votes

I picked Mundo, since his model is so terribly outdated and he has no lore to speak of. Then again, Fiddlesticks is basically the same way, with even less presence in lore, so I sort of went eeny-meeny-miny-moe between the two.

I'd like to see all of these get updated, but the one I'm most concerned about is Volibear. Mainly, his visual fantasy. Sure, Silence Of The Damned was a great story, but when he actually gets reworked I hope Riot doesn't stray too far into the uncanny valley and instead amplifies the fantasy of being a giant warrior bear god. Though I have a hopeful feeling that he'll stay similar to how he is, but more godly and badass.

PickyPenguin5/9/2019, 9:25:10 PM2 votes

I picked Fiddlesticks cause I think from a glimpse of all of the champions up for a VGU I felt that Fiddlesticks needed some connection to lore. Voli is a demi-god, Mundo is a mental escapee, Shyvana is a half-dragon, and Nocturne is a remnant from the Rune War. Fiddlesticks to the best of my knowledge is a scarecrow that haunts an area, leaving the rest of Runeterra alone. It's like if someone were to create a fantasy world and made this one character who has no connection to the rest of the plot. Though honestly if I could I'd vote for all of them. But that's just my 2 cents on the subject.

RussiaKitty5/10/2019, 12:05:54 AM2 votes

GIVE FIDDLE HALLOWEEN VGU!!! PERFECT OPPERTUNITY [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Gehco5/10/2019, 1:25:56 AM2 votes

Team Voli

Connoisseür5/10/2019, 4:40:40 AM2 votes

I love it when riot lets us vote on stuff! more of this, thanks Rito! [katarina-love]

NelsieLisnen5/10/2019, 11:30:48 AM1 votes

My thoughts on each and every one of them

  • Mundo: Prob the least pressing VGU. It wouldn't change him that much and besides he is the most trolly of the candidates by far, so I think he could wait a bit more. Prio #5

  • Voli: If we're being realistic, we should all vote for him, BUT, there's a catch. I think this rework could be really interesting IF they decide to design him around his latest lore iteration as a Lovecraftian Elder God with mind melting powers. Other than that, slappy-zappy-chompy bear doesn't sound too charming to me. Prio#1/2

  • Fiddle: He can still be pretty fun but it would be great if a more skill expressive kit would make him more appealing to new players. Currently he is the least interactive of the candidates plus he doesn't look like a scary scarecrow, he looks like a plain ol' scarecrow. Prio #1/2

  • Nocturne: His model looks funny, just, plain funny. Chinese knockoff action figure funny. He is the most disparate of the five in terms of what his phantasy promises vs what you see. However, he is also the most viable of the five in gameplay terms so I think he is prio #4.

  • Shyvana: Now this champ is a proper mess. Her most popular build is a cheese oneshot build, she looks like a cheap cosplay in human form and her dragon form looks like a mutated fruit bat. Her abilities can't sell the feeling of piloting a proper dragon, what I get is more like radioactive honeybadger. No flight, no constant stream of flames, no substantial tankiness (dragons have hard-ass scales, hello?). It's inconceivable to me how this game doesn't have an actual, honest to god dragon in its ranks yet. Prio #3.

If it's not apparent already, I'm pretty salty about Shyv's state so I'll throw my two cents at her.

ARandomRedneck5/9/2019, 9:59:39 PM1 votes

Voted for my man Mundo.

Chembaron Yamada5/9/2019, 10:56:21 PM1 votes

Voted for Dr. Mundo. Really hope that he is winning this, the fact the he won't get updated in 2019 is actually insulting....

Hemulen Magi5/10/2019, 4:45:35 AM1 votes

I voted for Nocturne because, while I actually play him a decent amount, I hate the lack of subtlety in his kit. He is too much of a one-dimensional one-trick-pony dive bombing jump-scare when he could be a much more satisfying shadow-stalking incarnation of terror and dread. The description of how they plan to rework him seemed the best out of the options.

Volibear was my second pick.

I think Fiddlesticks needs something too, but the description on the poll didn't seem like the right vision for him in my opinion. I think that, yes, he should have more counterplay and more satisfying gameplay... but... "appearing out of nowhere" isn't the core of his identity for me, even though ambushing is part of his gameplay. I think his CC should be the focus of the rework and he should get a firm niche as a catcher class who can function well in the jungle role. I think some of his CC (probably his Q and maybe newly added CC) should scale with AP but his low-counterplay damage should be lowered. His E should be changed to do less damage when poking against active players in laning but somehow ramp-up if the enemy fails some sort of "counterplay test" like dodging it or stepping out of an area of effect. Jungle camps would be unable to pass the "counterplay test" vs his E, so it would still do plenty of damage to allow decent clear times. His W could also ramp-up in damage over time but start out weaker, which would allow good damage output vs monsters that don't attempt to break the tether. His R could empower his abilities while crows are flocked, turning his Q into an AOE around him and increasing his E size for examples, and the R could last longer (maybe scaling duration with AP) but do less damage per second. Overall, this kit would make Fiddlesticks rely more on CCing enemies in order to add reliability to his other abilities and give him time to deal damage. If his utility scales well with AP, then he will continue to build pretty squishy with AP as a catcher even without high damage AP scaling, but if he lacks utility AP scaling then people would play him as a tank which would not fit his visuals.

Craft Zeppelin5/10/2019, 8:05:00 AM1 votes

Honestly I would vote for mundo just for the sake to kick his current rendition out of the game...Fighting against him is not fun at all.

Whyte Lyon5/10/2019, 3:23:02 AM1 votes

Ha. Of all the dedicated 'mains' communities on Reddit, the Fiddlestick community is the only one actually unanimously supportive and enthusiastic. The other communities have a sizable amount of paranoid crybabies openly depressed that their champ is even among the list. Jesus christ, grow up...

Rebonack5/10/2019, 3:27:59 AM1 votes

It was between Fiddles and Voli for me. Voli because his current in-game form has absolutely nothing to do with his current lore. Fiddles because he needs his everything updated.

I ended up going with Fiddles because he's one of the few character models left in the game that makes my eyes bleed still.

Lewanor5/9/2019, 7:35:12 PM1 votes

Nocturne is the one with the most unused potential. His gameplay is old af and needs correction. I see the others need it absolutely too, but it's a no brainer Nocturne from me. Ever since I saw him I felt like he needed one of those VGUs. Years passed, feeling didn't change.

Xodiathe4bdn15/9/2019, 6:41:19 PM1 votes

Anyone know which region has the biggest number of active players?, cause that may give an idea of where the bulk of votes may go as different regions often have different priorities and favorites.

Sukishoo5/9/2019, 6:04:45 PM1 votes

I'm currently undecided on my vote. So many good candidates here. Hmm

Linna Excel5/9/2019, 5:40:52 PM1 votes

There's a champion I'd like to see updated, but I'm scared riot is going to get it wrong. Which dev is going to work on this?