The next two VGUs

Zoli Ben·4/18/2017, 7:53:24 AM·3 votes·3,465 views

So, with the tank update soon approaching, and Urgot coming up in a month or two afterwards, it's safe to say that we will soon know the next rework, or reworks. Reav3 revealed the next potential candidate list after the release of the State of Champions. For those you don't know, he named Akali Chogath DrMundo Irelia Kayle Mordekaiser Morgana Nunu Pantheon Rammus Shaco Swain Volibear XinZhao with Malphite being borderline of tier 1 and Jax on tier 2. We all know that the most deciding factor is player request. Last time the ever changing player request list was:

  1. Yorick 2.Urgot 3.Nunu 4.Warwick 5.Galio 6.Singed 7.Evelynn

Out of these, Nunu is the only untouched, and they keep saying nothing on Singed . We can pretty much all agree that he is one of the most unhealthy character for the game, that does not belong in a world that has fast gank characters like new Warwick. And he is a beginner character too. He needs to feel more of a Warden, which they executed well on Galio and Poppy. They also yet to touch Frejlord in any form, so it would be pretty ideal, and also due to the fact that the two current reworks are "dark" characters. So with all these in mind, despite small changes, I am sure they will likely pick him up for one of the two slots, possibly and very likely for first one to follow Evelynn. There was also an indication of some, that they would avoid touching class rework champions for VGU, until they define the class more. Warwick was an exception, but divers at the moment are the likeliest for next class rework. If that is so, it is possible they will avoid Irelia Pantheon XinZhao until the class as whole is more defined. Last time, Meddler ruled out Kayle and Morgana duo update for this year. They also would want to avoid touching a region too much, which despite I would like to see it much, will make them avoid Swain Mordekaiser Volibear.

So we would be down to Akali Chogath DrMundo Rammus Shaco from the tier one. Akali might be avoided despite Ionia needing lore touch, because Evelynn being an assassin, but then same could be said about Shaco.

What do you guys think about this? Who would you think to be the next two reworks after Urgot and Evelynn ?

23 Comments

Ralanr4/18/2017, 1:19:56 PM4 votes

I'd argue Swain, Pantheon, Irelia, Mordekaiser, or the duo Kayle and Morganna update.

Tesla Effect4/18/2017, 2:42:43 PM2 votes

Amumu Blitzcrank Chogath Corki DrMundo Evelynn Ezreal Fiddlesticks Fizz Gragas Graves Irelia JarvanIV Jax Kayle Kennen KogMaw Leblanc LeeSin Leona Lulu Lux Malphite Malzahar Mordekaiser Morgana Nautilus Nocturne Nunu Olaf Orianna Pantheon Rammus Riven Rumble Shaco Shyvana Skarner Swain Talon Teemo Tryndamere Udyr Urgot Vayne Veigar XinZhao Ziggs Zilean Vladimir All of these champions need Updates in various levels of complexity ( from Full Relaunches, to Visual Updates, to Texture Updates, to just Model updates).

Brutusness4/18/2017, 6:15:30 PM2 votes

I think it will be Swain, based primarily on his importance to the lore going forward and his long stretch without a skin.

Digielf4/18/2017, 2:25:16 PM1 votes

You didnt even mention UdyrUdyr or FiddlesticksFiddlesticks which have the most outdated models in the game lol

Also SingedSinged already got his visual update, he was one of the first characters who got them http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/champions-skins/champion-update/champion-update-singed

Evelynn Evelynn is confirmed the next after Urgot, she is in the schedule https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/202294884-Champion-Update-Schedule

TyrekGoldenspear4/18/2017, 2:28:33 PM1 votes

Dude if they touched Singed people would riot.

Sexy Jack Rabbit4/18/2017, 2:50:49 PM1 votes

Personally I think Nunu Mordekaiser and Pantheon should/will be after Urgot and Eve.
They are all in the most desperate need at this point. Their kits are binary, toxic and just plain bad.

DrMundo Chogath and Rammus may be after those, as they're kits are in very similar, but slightly less horrible places. Their kits are horribly binary, but not so toxic.

Swain and Volibear stand out as character with TONNES of awesome potential, but could just be tided over with actual buffs (None of that shit volibear recently got).

I doubt we'll be seeing Morgana or Kayle anytime soon as it's such a massive investment and and honestly not necessary for a long time.

Lastly I think they will avoid Akali and Shaco till the very end, as they are both fine kit-wise, despite their toxic natures.

Prestige AkaIi4/18/2017, 3:11:59 PM1 votes

I suspect Akali is either going to be after Evelynn or the one after that for a VGU.

They revealed about a little over a year ago in a comment about the assassin rework that Akali's VGU was scheduled for late 2017 early 2018.

Wrathof3004/18/2017, 4:01:18 PM1 votes

Galio was also reworked before the tank rework happened. The diver class is reasonably fleshed out on terms if their role, (Vi, Hecarim, Warwick are all strong examples) all that needs to happen is some individuality amongst the divers, such as what they did with Talon and Katarina in the assassin update.

GreenLore4/18/2017, 4:16:36 PM1 votes

I think that out of the known Tier1 candidates Nunu Irelia Mordekaiser Pantheon Swain are the top candidates. Not sure if they ever said anything about this or if it is just my gut feeling,but these 5 simply feel like the ones who need it the most.

Volibear also feels like a champ who might get his update surprisingly early as they mentioned that they have a cool concept for him lying around.

Chogath seems rather unlikely as he will be one of the biggest VGUs of them all,since he has lots of skins,including 2 legendary skins, and they'll likely give him an evolving model for his growth-mechanic.

Kayle and Morgana are also possible,because I feel like their lore will never be updated until their VGU and they kinda block a lot of lore/champion potential at the moment(as Riot might never introduce anything angel-related until they know what to do with these 2). Yes it was said that Kayle will not get her update this year,but since this is going to be a double update,it would take more time than usual anyway and would likely come out in the next year,even if they started working on it after Urgot.

As for Singed: Keep in mind that these top-requests fluctuate quite a bit and that Singed got already a model update,so it seems more likely for him to get a gameplayrework instead of a full VGU(also Singed isn't a warden,he is a specialist,he is supposed to play differently than anyone else)

Chembaron Yamada4/18/2017, 11:27:56 AM1 votes

Rammus DrMundo These 2 are clearly my favourites for the next 2 slots of VGUs.

Rammus as the anti ad tank has so much potential and they introduced so many new mechanics which would absolutely make sense for Rammus to have. For example, that the range of Warwicks ult is scaling with movement speed. Such a movement speed scaling for an ability could get used for Rammus Q easily. And esecially the ad shield, which got introduced with Camille, would absolutely fit him. He needs new tools so he is able to do stuff besides going in, taunting someone and then hoping that enemies are attacking him while his W is up.

Dr. Mundo needs the visual update desperately (for real, his model is horrible) and his gameplay really needs some serious work. His kit is a bunch of passive effects he can activate on demand (extra AA damage, toggle AoE damage, health regen), the only skill he really uses are his cleavers. His passive is as boring as a passive can be (basically just increased health regen). And he gets too hard punished by grevious wounds. Dr. Mundo was always the version of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde from LoL for me. Health regen definitely is a huge part of his character design, but they should think about using alternative ways to implement that instead of just healing up.

Dokkaebi4/19/2017, 10:55:47 AM1 votes

Last time I said Nunu needs a rework I got downvoted so hard... [zombie-brand-mindblown]

Hupsis4/18/2017, 12:15:35 PM1 votes

Zilean

I don't get why Zilean isn't getting a full VGU. His kit got changes a while back but his gameplay still remains quite one dimentional.

He has

  1. A strong theme
  2. Outdated visuals
  3. Wonky kit

The perfect recipe for a VGU. I want a proper time control mage, not a clockwork bomber.

But the next VGU is probably DrMundo or some other boring champion.

Garentheon4/18/2017, 2:23:42 PM1 votes

I doubt Nunu is next because of the very recent passive changes. I would've guessed him as next but they don't do passive changes and have the VGU team doing early on him as that is pretty idiotic and double work.

My guess is Swain and Mordekaiser

Even though I REALLY wish my boyPantheon was next