With the Akali VGU to be done by CertainlyT it means...

Zoli Ben··37 votes·10,037 views

Xenogenic has to be doing Nunu , no other champs from Freljord are tier 1, only Volibear August has confirmed the champion's gender to be female. Wrekz is doing minor VGU that is not Nunu he confirmed.

Based on what we know, minor VGU was only hinted for Morgana . And if it's her, Kayle is August's project.

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RiotReav335 votes

Riot Xenogenics is indeed the designer on the VGU after Akali

Spideraxe1 votes

Yay Justin is next. could I ask about what Wav3break is doing next, is he heading back to live

Chromatic Eagle5 votes

What other champions has this person done in the past?

Abibyama16 votes

He did the Xin Zhao rework

AmazoX2 votes

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He did the Xin Zhao rework

and the shyvana mini rework I think along with Azir mini-rework? Correct me if I am wrong.

Abibyama2 votes

Azir was done by Wav3break and Shyvana was done by ricklessabandon

TheGreatRasputin1 votes

Make sure he makes her actually possible to lane against.

SomeStars2 votes

of course there will be counterplay

you just need to dodge the Q Yasuo Zoe Thresh

then she basically wont be able to hurt you

50000000000000003 votes

Yeah but they can E to make the Q easier to land

KuroCaliber1 votes

It's so sad that almost every one of CertainlyT's champs can be described by, "Dodge Q, but E makes it easier to hit Q"Darius , Thresh , Zyra , Yasuo , Zoe ....only one that doesn't is Kalista , and that's because you can't avoid her damage.

50000000000000001 votes

I mean, same pattern applies to a lot of other champions too. There's one spell that's core to the champion, and another spell that helps land that ability more effectively, or just straight up increase the potency of the ability. I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing.

If we're only talking "E helps land Q" thing, it's true for Aatrox Ahri Alistar AurelionSol Camille Chogath Darius Ekko Elise Evelynn Galio Graves Hecarim Heimerdinger Illaoi Jax Karthus Kayn Khazix Leblanc Leona Lissandra Lulu Lux Nami Nasus Poppy RekSai Renekton Rengar Riven Rumble Ryze Shen Singed Sion Skarner Swain (new Swain) Thresh Tristana Trundle Tryndamere Udyr Veigar MonkeyKing Xerath XinZhao Yasuo Yorick Zac Ziggs Zilean Zoe Zyra Honorable mention Draven Gangplank JarvanIV Jhin Jinx LeeSin Maokai

Kono901 votes

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Riot Xenogenics is indeed the designer on the VGU after Akali

But isn't certainlyT doing the rework?

Terozu1 votes

He's doing the Akali rework, not the one after it.

CrazFight 25 votes

I remember a LONG WHILE back, riot said if they reworked morg/kayle, they would most likely be reworked together.

Electro5222 votes

Kayle would likely get a full blown VGU, probably on the same scale as Poppy. Morg, however, has a decent kit that Riot is happy with, so, she would only get a VU (visual update), and probably some minor number tweaks.

Baron Von Bangin6 votes

Huh? Riot has ever said anything along the lines of "minor number tweaks" for Morg. They said they like her Q. So THAT would stay.

Electro5222 votes

If I recall, Morg's kit will stay basically the same. I would dig up the comment from Meddler (I know he said this), but that would take WAY too long.

TheySeeMeWardin2 votes

Unfortunately, he’s right. She’ll keep her painfully straight forward and easily telegraphed kit for the most part. I just wish the changed her e and r.

Electro5222 votes

Having a straightforward kit doesn't mean it's bad. Look at Sejuani. I'd say her kit is pretty simple, yet she's one of the most heavily contested junglers in the LCS.....at the moment at least.

Tomoe Gozen1 votes

Black Shield and Dark Binding are not to be touched. This is core to who Morgana is. Her W is a pretty mediocre ability, considering that it's really only ever most useful in waveclearing or when used in conjunction with her Q. Other than that, its only use is to proc Spellthief's.

Being a straightforward champion isn't a bad thing. Not every champion needs a nuanced kit that has levels of complexity to master them. The problem with current Morg's complexity is that it's only about hitting her Q and being good at threading the needle/predicting enemy movement. And timing Black Shield on top of allies to clutch block crucial CC. Other than that, she's pretty shallow when it comes to mastery. Her ult isn't really something clutch as it needs time to stun and even then, Zhonya's, Stopwatch and Ingenious Hunter Domination mastery make Morgana a pretty frequent ult + Zhonya user, which is what her combo is reliant on anyway.

She isn't bad in a gameplay sense but it's just that she's rather unfulfilling at times to play.

GreenLore1 votes

They said it would largely stay the same,that doesn't mean that there can't be significant changes to it. If I remember correctly he actually compared it to Tristanas rework,who did get a completely new ability in addition to the number tweaks.

Tomoe Gozen4 votes

Black Shield is also Morg's specialty, considering that no other champions have it on their kits (not one time use Spell Shields). As far as i recall when Reav3 talked about it, Morg and Kayle would likely be a part of a duo "rework/update". It wasn't really a confirmation of one that was going to happen, it was just talk about which champions (according to him) should be on the list.

And as far as i recall, GU update for Morg and VGU for Kayle? I don't remember if this was discussed or not but i would've imagined something along these lines.

Oleandervine1 votes

I remember that article, and they said "rework," they didn't specify GU or VGU. However, if you wholeheartedly believe that Morgana just needs a GU, you are sadly mistaken. She looks hideous, and she desperately needs a VGU to her to a modern place. Hell, I didn't even know she had feet or legs under her dress until there was a bug in the game that made them clip her skirt during certain animations, and that's just sad.

As for her kit, Morgana has a bipolar kit, much like Old Galio. The majority of her playstyle is dull and involves fishing with Q to plunk W under people. This directly conflicts with her R, which tells you "HEY GUYS, I NEED TO GO UP AND PUNCH THEM IN THE FACE," which gives her this disjointed kit that doesn't really flow with itself. And Black Shield, while iconic to Morgana, is honestly one of the most OP shields in the game. It's got WAY too much going on to be a basic ability, in my opinion, and I think it could use some trimming, or some being moved to be a part of a new ultimate on her. And other champions do have elements of Black Shield, such as Master Yi (ultimate) and Camille (passive AP shield), but no one has them together, which is think is a bit too powerful.

Glory ln Death5 votes

Her Q is actively encouraged to be landed from far away, as it has a longer snare for the distance it travels.

You have somehow confused Morgana's Q with Ashe's ult, because Dark Binding does not work like that.

Oleandervine1 votes

This may be the case, I concede, but it still doesn't detract from the point that her kit and stat spread do not support a close range ultimate like she has.

Furthermore, her kit doesn't live up to the fantasy of a dark angel. She's basically a plain mage, so she definitely needs kit work to push her towards that fantasy.

Tomoe Gozen1 votes

I'm a Morgana main and i find nothing wrong with Morgana's looks. Morgana was one of the older champions who already received a VU in the past, they really cleaned up and modernized all of her spells and retouched her model quite a bit. Old W looked like a boiling swamp broth and now it's actually cursed ground, for example.

Regardless of the old VU, her animations are quite rigid still and her VO is lacking severely. It wasn't really an article, it was Reav3's comment on someone else's thread that i read but that's not important. I'm pretty sure that if Kayle gets her big day, Riot's also going to plan Morgana at the same time. Yes, Morgana has legs but due to her floor dress, not a single skin shows them. Maybe

Morgana doesn't need to thread the needle into the "dark angel" phantasy. She isn't some demon like Swain is. She's a fallen angel. So if Kayle is an angel, Morgana needs to be an antithesis to her.

DarkSoul19948 votes

Who let CertainlyT of all people rework Akali?

https://i.imgur.com/wvnFZIn.jpg

WubbaLubbaDubDab3 votes

he's gonna rework my akali?FUCK!

DarkSoul19942 votes

I mean, at least there's a good chance she'll be broken on release.

AetherArising1 votes

and then in a week she'll be decided as too OP and immediately nerfed to dumpsterness

Corvid7 votes

Ho boy. An already annoying champion getting THAT designer to work on her. Nothing against the guy, but she's going to be awful to play against, won't she.

Because Zoe worked out so well.

SHANK LUX MAINS7 votes

Pretty sure he did warwick which was a big success until the cancer new runes that make him super strong.

Raven Redeemed4 votes

His winrate actually dropped a bit when pre-season hit, but for the most part it's exactly the same as pre-runes WW.

Tomeksz6 votes

Pantheon Mordekaiser XinZhao 2019 :/

Zoli Ben3 votes

Indeed, but Nunu and Ionia the fan favourite region of Riot is knocked off from this year.

Mordepool6 votes

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Pantheon Mordekaiser XinZhao 2019 :/

They could push it back and my prediction of a 2020 Morde rework will be accurate. Fuk riot so mad

GreenLore12 votes

Here you are complaining about Morde not getting his VGU this year. In another thread you complain that Morde gets always worse when Riot does something with him and says you are glad that he doesn't get a VGU for now.

Mordepool5 votes

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Here you are complaining about Morde not getting his VGU this year. In another thread you complain that Morde gets always worse when Riot does something with him and says you are glad that he doesn't get a VGU for now.

Yes I'm fucking mad. Fed up with the neglect it's boiling over

GreenLore9 votes

So you admit that you are just salty and just complain just for the sake of complaining.

Mordepool4 votes

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So you admit that you are just salty and just complain just for the sake of complaining.

I'm mad at the blatant neglect and abuse Riot has shown my main for 8 years.

Tomoe Gozen3 votes

You do know that there are over 140 champions in the entire champion pool, right? Morde may be the one and only champion you'll ever play but it's just one of many on Riot's list. So i don't get why should you get a special treatment.

I main Morg so i'd like to see work done on her. And a few other champions, while i'm at it. But i don't get to dictate who gets to get one and when.

Jinx Hunter7 votes

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Pantheon Mordekaiser XinZhao 2019 :/

Xin already got his update. I don't see them changing him again. I like him how he is.

GreenLore1 votes

He still looks rather bad in terms of visuals. Though I agree that he isn't in dire need for a VGU(Reav3 didn't even list him as one of the top candidates for a VGU),so I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't get a VGU in 2019.

WubbaLubbaDubDab1 votes

i love akali,i used to main her she was my 1st lvl 7 mastery champ but cmon there are other champs who needs vgu way more than her like:nunu,morde,pantheon,kayle,voli and udyr fix these pizza feet point and click outdated kits and then go to akali

GreenLore1 votes

Akali was likely chosen because she is incredibly bland in terms of themes. I mean she is a ninja assassin.....in a game where we already have 3 other ninjas(with one of them even being another assassin).

Serika Zero1 votes

she's an easy to play hot ninja assassin that doesn't need you to have the INSANE MECHANICS!!!!!!!! but think of the fight before you start it.

not everything needs to be complex like azir or zed. Actually, a lot of us like simple champions. Which is why Akali, Annie, Kayle, Morgana and others see play despite not being HASAGI!!!!!! or SHURIMAAAAAAAAAAAAAA in terms of mechanics.

GreenLore2 votes

Never said her mechanics need to be complex,I am talking about her theme,her archetype,not her kit. And yeah she is a hot ninja girl. But we already have a several ninjas and hot girls in the game,so what makes Akali unique in that regard? Right nothing.

Serika Zero1 votes

hot chick and ninja two things that i like, together!!! and not a slut like theme (eve, mf), but still hot

You just hate sexy/beautiful girls that aren't acting as sex objects!!!

bengosu20001 votes

Why would you ever change and nerf a very beautyfull champion like akali?Why would you stop her snowballing as long as champions like yasuo still exist in lol... their snowballing is ok but akalis is completly broken.

WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOO3 votes

Did you read the roadmap post?

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