Thank you Riot. [A Good Death]

ZER0 2··71 votes·11,277 views

Thank you, thank you so much for writing this story. It's beautifully written and beautifully told. As an avid reader and writer myself, a standing ovation for your lore/story team. It's enticing and beautiful and is (apparently) leaving a lot of readers to speculate what happens. Thank you for this. It's an absolutely gorgeous piece. Thank you.

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RiotRiotJaredan39 votes

Thanks TheyCallmeJinx. FauxSchizzle and the rest of the team put a lot of work into it. We rather love Kindred, and we're glad to see how many players are responding positively.

Cuix9 votes

Seriously beautiful writing. Not just the mechanics, though those are pristine as well, but rather the incredible depth and breadth of worldbuilding seeping out of every paragraph without detracting from the story. We got tons of information on how Kindred operates, without them losing their mystique or their mix of terrifying and charismatic. There's clear evidence of a lot of work going on behind this piece. Interestingly, it seems like this whole thing works just as well with or without The Great Retcon, so we're seeing how a lot of the worldbuilding work going on right now is building on prior foundations rather than replacing them.

Basically, we're getting what we've been asking for, and it's consistently high quality. I hope that some time soon you'll find it appropriate to release some more broad-strokes stuff, though. Things like maps, political/religious explanations, timelines, wider champion interactions, etc.

Tesla Effect13 votes

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Seriously beautiful writing. Not just the mechanics, though those are pristine as well, but rather the incredible depth and breadth of worldbuilding seeping out of every paragraph without detracting from the story. We got tons of information on how Kindred operates, without them losing their mystique or their mix of terrifying and charismatic. There's clear evidence of a lot of work going on behind this piece. Interestingly, it seems like this whole thing works just as well with or without The Great Retcon, so we're seeing how a lot of the worldbuilding work going on right now is building on prior foundations rather than replacing them.

Basically, we're getting what we've been asking for, and it's consistently high quality. I hope that some time soon you'll find it appropriate to release some more broad-strokes stuff, though. Things like maps, political/religious explanations, timelines, wider champion interactions, etc.

World objects, festivals, cultures, mythology, astrological maps, history, wars, NPCs, flora & fauna, explanation for techmaturgy, hextech, runes, magic in general....

Cuix3 votes

Yeeeessss, gimme all of that~

ZER0 21 votes

Thank you so much for replying to my thread! and you rather love Kindred? I'm glad! It shows for sure! =D <3 thanks again!

DariusDemiurge3 votes

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Thanks TheyCallmeJinx. FauxSchizzle and the rest of the team put a lot of work into it. We rather love Kindred, and we're glad to see how many players are responding positively.

You all better make the harrow/shadow isles stuff amazing this year or else. /shakesfist

Sharjo3 votes

I'ma keep saying this: Bilgewater is so screwed. Like, so utterly screwed it's not even funny.

Ariel the Cruel1 votes

Harrowing will be Chapter 2 of the Bilgewater event.

LeeDark3 votes

Which will be a test of the new lore. Realistically, the Harrowing should just WRECK a beleaguered Bilgewater at war with itself. They will once again have to employ some serious deus ex machina to keep the status quo somewhat recognizable.

I could respect Bilgewater being swallowed by the Shadow Isles icky fog, and all of its champions becoming exiled until another event progresses the story. Given Jaredan's words here, I highly doubt that will be the case. They look to be going the deus ex machina route, and that is a difficult tactic for even some of the best writers to pull off convincingly. For it to get the same respect, it better be damn good, or tied to an absolutely amazing and fun new champion. I doubt they would release another new champion so soon, and I also doubt Narrative can pull off a story that good.

sp4411 votes

Now, it would be interesting if they had the 11th hour help of another Champion, like Lucian or Aatrox.

RiotRiotJaredan18 votes

Okie doke!

The Red Warden3 votes

I am worried with how you will approach the harrowing event from here-on-out as it seems you are heading towards the same problem that Fallout: New Vegas did when it added the tunnelers in with its fourth dlc. The tunnelers were a problem because once you heard about them and how dangerous they are it makes the rest of your actions in the game feel meaningless, as they will eventually take over the wasteland no matter what faction you sided for. They are creatures that come in swarms, breed faster than you can kill them, with each requiring 2-3 strong fighters to actually take down. It will just become a war of attrition that the human race has no way of beating.

I bring them up because the harrowing seems to be heading towards a similar situation. Each Harrowing is stronger and larger than the last. Which requires a larger fighting force to fight them off, but that only means more zombies will attack you the next year while you have less soldiers. It just seems like a hopeless battle of attrition that makes anything happening in Bilgewater meaningless, as the entire island chain has at most 10 years before its population is either forced to evacuate or become zombified.

RiotWAAARGHbobo19 votes

Sounds like Bilgewater needs a savior...

A Superb Villain7 votes

Nautilus?

Malicious Metal2 votes

Ib4 the black goo was actually the black mist

Heck, he's neither living nor dead, I bet he's a failed undead, not in thrall of the isles but rather his own captain.

sp4411 votes

I think he's just a host for some sort of unholy eldritch abomination, constantly struggling to recover control of his gargantuan body.

333lom2 votes

Wow. At first I thought the savior would be a new champion... But now that you mentioned him, I firmly believe he will have a key role there. I always loved his character, and now I'm excited that his story might potentially see some important development.

The Red Warden15 votes

So pirate Jesus confirmed?

Wheatloaf10 votes

They can walk on rum.

The Red Warden6 votes

He turns rum into more rum, and intoxicates (?) the sober.

Hellioning2 votes

Bilgewater Savior would be a cool name for a band.

AIIan2 votes

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Sounds like Bilgewater needs a savior...

Are you thinking about Fizz ? sheds silent tears for this dear champion left aside during Bilgewater rework

sp4411 votes

Burning Tides was too serious for him.

He look one look at Graves blowing people up like he has the Bloody Mess perk and decided "Yeeeeeah I'm sitting this one out, Brandle City's weather is delightful this time of year anyway."

sp4411 votes

New Champion HENRY FREEMAN SAVOR OF PIRATES CONFIRMED.

Sharjo1 votes

I'm calling it: Nami. I dunno exactly how but the the Tidecaller's gonna stem the tide of death that'll wash over Bilgewater. I can feel it in my bones!

CircusT4ffy1 votes

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Sounds like Bilgewater needs a savior...

MissFortune Where have all the good men gone? (I kicked them out of bilgewater)

MissFortune Where are all the Gods? (Laughing at Bilgewater)

MissFortune Where's the streetwise Hercules Gangplank to fight the rising war? (I "killed" him and usurped his position.)

MissFortune Isn't there a white knight, upon a fiery steed? (I never liked the righteous ones.)

MissFortune Late at night, I toss and I turn and I dream of what I need... (A pillow)

MissFortune I NEED A PORO! IM HOLDING OUT FOR A PORO TILL THE END OF THE NIGHT! HE'S GOTTA BE STRONG AND HE'S GOTTA HAVE PUFF AND HE'S GOTTA BE FRESH FROM THE FIGHT.

So will the next Champion be a Poro?

HighH13 votes

They just need to eat some oranges to make it all k

Smithney1 votes

The thing is, while the Shadow isles is a powerful threat, it isn't the biggest threat in more than 99% of the year (unless one year has less than 100 days on Runeterra :). Kinda like the Xmas of Futurama. That means Bilgewater has enough time to make enemies every year...

...until they are destroyed by an overwhelming wave of Harrowing one day. But as long as Bilgewater has enough oranges gunpower to survive, everything should be K.

The Red Warden1 votes

The problem and why it currently seems possible for Bilgewater to keep fighting is in how long it takes humans to grow up. It takes at minimum 16 years before a person's body matures enough that they can pose a physical threat to the undead. Zombies on the other hand can kill a human one day after being infected, or in the case of the Harrowing 1 year.

The Harrowing will eventually take over Bilgewater because zombies can be raised in a much shorter time than it takes a human to grow up and be trained as a soldier.

Morsigil1 votes

It goes both ways. Baby zombies can be fought by baby humans... I think. Probably.

Ariel the Cruel9 votes

You all better make the harrow/shadow isles stuff amazing this year or else. /shakesfist

. . .Or else we summon Lollipoppy. . .

DariusDemiurge9 votes

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. . .Or else we summon Lollipoppy. . .

Damn, well that escalated quickly. Merciless and cold blooded you are.

Ariel the Cruel6 votes

Eh. It comes with the name.

RiotRiotJaredan3 votes

You take that back!

Ariel the Cruel1 votes
Teslablade1 votes

It reminded me a lot of The Name of the Wind. Good job.

FurriesAreHot1 votes

I adore everything about this champion, it's rather true, those who run from fate dont end up well, those who accept it get the fast way out. Their design, vocals, lore, gameplay and everything else is perfect, I'm nearing my 150th win, or was it 200th? Anyway, it would be an honor to play along side a rioter

TurtleStacks1 votes

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Thanks TheyCallmeJinx. FauxSchizzle and the rest of the team put a lot of work into it. We rather love Kindred, and we're glad to see how many players are responding positively.

Sorry if this comes off bad but most of the lore is not that good and I was skeptical clicking the link. I was wrong and it was an amazing read. Good job.

LeeDark4 votes

I remain largely unimpressed. Shurima remains the best thing they've put out so far, and even it wasn't good enough to justify the wreckage they made to create it.

High52 votes

The different styles used to introduce new characters has been top notch recently.

2Behold2 votes

I love how we get a sense of Kindred and how they fit in the larger world but they are still left in mystery. This is soooooo great!

KING OF MASKS2 votes

It's a pretty good piece but it's not very substantial. There is really nothing that ties it to Runeterra.

After all this time we're still missing basic, foundational lore and instead we're getting these one-off lore pieces. They're great, but ultimately meaningless.

Ra1d1 votes

To what are you referring to

Tesla Effect5 votes

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To what are you referring to

Kindreds long lore yo.

Ra1d1 votes

I just read it and i agree its a good story. One of the best from riot so far.

Cuix1 votes

The second "to" is redundant, just fyi :3

Ra1d1 votes

I was looking at my last comment. Took me a while to see you were referring to my first.

kkanaka1 votes

YES! The lore that we've been promised is finally being given. Now ummmmmm bout Garen and Katarina?

CasterGilgamesh2 votes

i pref Katarina X Talon X Cassiopeia or Lux X Talon

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