Dragon Sorceress ... That's Still Obsessed With Plants?

ZER0 2··41 votes·6,602 views

First off, I want to say that this skin is gorgeous and Riot has absolutely outdone themselves on the model and animation work.

But I'm shocked it's not a legendary o.o (Don't get me wrong, I'm sure lots of people are happy it's 1350 because they could easily charge 1820 for the model/animation work alone I'm sure).

This is mostly because of her voicelines.

Zyra's base voicelines are extremely plant-related so they really don't make any sense with the new skin.

  • "Bloom!"
  • "Whip Vine!"
  • "Just a harmless flower"
  • "Sprout!"
  • "A promising garden"
  • and "Wait until my seeds take root" are just a few that really conflict heavily with the skin and the theme it's supposed to represent.

While I'm aware that there probably isn't enough time to change this before the skin is released, I just thought I'd toss it around incase something can be done about it.

I'm also confused as to why every other aspect of it is up to par with legendary skins (minus a few animations here and there) but pretty much only the voice work was left out, especially after Zyra players have been waiting a few years for a good skin.

Again, beautiful skin =) Very extremely well done to the skins team on this one. Just a few critiques is all, hope something can be done! As a player who started playing League because of Zyra, this is very exciting. Zyra

47 Comments

Ravenhale23 votes

I guess she can't forget her roots. ^_^

BladeSingularity1 votes

Ugh ... upvoted for the pun.

JUST TAKE THE DAMN UPVOTE AND LEAVE ME ALONE!!!

Golden Tager X8 votes

Don't you mean, leaf me alone?

BladeSingularity3 votes

groans

GO AWAY!

facepalm

Golden Tager X5 votes

oakay

BladeSingularity3 votes

throws computer across room and hopes it survives

Skins Project2 votes

it didn't

It barked up the wrong tree ^.^ wait... Uhhh

i'll be back in a hour with a pun.. (or 24 we'll see)

50000000000000002 votes

facepalm?

ZER0 22 votes

A++

XIII Vanitas15 votes

Yeah, I was surprised as well when I learned it's not a legendary skin.

Definitely a wasted opportunity. She could have add tons of special interactions, considering the existence of Shyvana, Aurelion Sol and all the dragonslayer and dragon trainer skins.

Poppystar9 votes

I'm actually pretty disappointed with this skin. The ult is still vines, the Q is still vines while the E is dragons. The eggs have no pattern on them, they're just one glowing color (which might be subject to change).

I agree with the voice lines and I think they should have gone the extra mile and made it 1850. I see a lot of people disappointed that it isn't 1850.

ZER0 25 votes

yeah I'm pretty disappointed in the ult as well.

VelvetCrotch4 votes

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

(imo atm xin's skin looks better than the teasered zyra-skin.)

ZER0 21 votes

I agree.

Riotmoonstones9 votes

Heyo TheyCallMeJinx!

Thanks! We're really glad you, and so many others are excited about her! I'm pretty hyped to hop into this thread, particularly because it's a challenging skin, and there's a lot of gameplay concerns, and some other feedback that you've mentioned below that I'd like to address and discuss! :)

Her VO is a major reason she isn't a legendary skin, and that is intended; we went into the development of this skin, planning that she would be a 1350 RP skin. We knew that meant not having new VO, and it was something we were on board with, and understood that we may receive feedback such as yours. BUT, we have a slight method to our madness.

It's been a long time since her last skin, but I think players may be divided on this one. Some players, like yourself, agree she should get a high quality skin, and in this case, a legendary to get new VO to match her new skin thematic.

I've also seen other players who are excited that it isn't a legendary skin because they can have a new skin for their favorite champion that has a lot in it, but without a legendary price tag.

We tried to reach a happy medium with this skin, but giving her a lot of extra odds and ends, but ones that would still keep her at a 1350 RP price tier.

Unfortunately, you're correct in that we wouldn't be able to accommodate adding new VO for this particular skin. I hope this doesn't discourage you from leaving feedback in the future, because your feedback is always great, and we've made changes based on it before. This is one of those cases where it's something we planned around, and VO is something that tacks on an extra month +, not including testing.

ZER0 23 votes

Thanks for clearing things up! <3

Riotmoonstones4 votes

Always glad to explain! [slayer-jinx-wink]

50000000000000001 votes

At least Zyra's kit allows for a lot of creative freedom. I'm sure there could be an amazing Zyra skin in the future.

Photos of Ghosts1 votes

Will you ever create add-on VO? That can be purchased separately?

Riotmoonstones1 votes

It's highly unlikely.

Vekkna1 votes

Hey Katey. I've been waiting a super long time for a Zyra skin, and I've done my fair bit of whining about the wait. A few comments:

  1. Overall, I really really love the skin. A+, especially on the dragons!

  2. My only complaint is with the choice of color on skin and hair, which aren't my taste at all. If I had a choice of chroma, the dragon skin would be black/silver with human skin and dark hair. More Witchblade and less Kerrigan.

  3. Very happy we ended up with a cool skin. I was terrified we would end up with, like "Agriculture Aficionado Zyra" in overalls and a straw hat spawning killer tomatoes and mutant GMO corn.

Sharjo8 votes

Well I mean, River Spirit Nami talks about the sea and oceans despite being a river fish, Pool Party Renekton talks about murdering everyone despite being a lifeguard, and Arclight Vel'Koz says he misses the darkness despite being an entity of light.

It's not like this is wholly new.

TyrekGoldenspear15 votes

Renekton is a very aggressive lifeguard.

Looknook7 votes

Nah, it's just that everyone is breaking the rules so he needs to restore order to the pool.

TyrekGoldenspear14 votes

Exactly, so at the end of the day he can say proudly:

"Under my watch, not a single person died. To the pool."

ZER0 22 votes

Not new, but this one definitely clashes more than the others.

Catastrop6 votes

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Not new, but this one definitely clashes more than the others.

You find this more clashing than say, Programme Lissandra still being obsessed with freezing people? Cryocore Brand still talking about burning the world down? Or my personal favourite, "Pre-void" Kassadin, that one's pretty self explanatory.

ZER0 21 votes

Yeah, some of them =)

ZER0 21 votes

Not to mention River Spirit is close enough that it flies (or swims? either way they're both water river/sea same diff, can't say the same for plant/dragon) Pool Party Renekton is 975 and could still be murderous cause it's still him tbh, and Arclight might miss the darkness because he's an entity of light now ;) but i do know what you're trying to say

Hambone20135 votes

I don't think you're wrong, but I don't think it'll get upped to a legendary status, though it would be cool, I'm going to buy it anyway.

Damn you riot I don't even play Zyra.

ZER0 22 votes

Yeah it probs won't happen :<

Prophet of Urgod4 votes

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ZER0 21 votes

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The animations for her abilities (save for the plants) look like purple, thorny vines.

I think they're supposed to look like serpents coming out of the ground (except for her ult, not a huge fan of that =/)

Toso Tea2 votes

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I think they're supposed to look like serpents coming out of the ground (except for her ult, not a huge fan of that =/)

I think that's my issue too. Like don't get me wrong, this skin is GORGEOUS. Definitely her best, and I know fire in the ult would be weird? But we have wild fire Zyra? So maybe not TOO much of a stretch. I think the colors in the ult are GREAT, but I feel that perhaps it should be that purple/red color of her dragons (plants) made of of fumes or fire and spreading across instead of vines? Her snare is still vines, so I guess that may be a stretch, but the ult not having a fantastic change is what makes it a 1350 over an 1820 to me.

GrReaper962 votes

I guess because Tristana already took the legendary dragon spot

ZER0 21 votes

Maybe =P

LunSeiSleidee1 votes

The skin just doesn't fit. Why didn't they just go for a Void Zyra skin, in which the seeds would be horrors from the void?

They could have kept the "dragon" plants she currently has on that skin. Because those eldritch slim things are NOT dragons at all, but they could be void creatures or even void plants.

Plus, it doesn't help that Zyra's own model in this skin looks like an unispired anime crap from some shitty Korean mmorpg. With wings on her butt.

ZER0 21 votes

Ehhhh I really love the skin so I can't agree, I just think it being legendary could've fixed a lot of the problems that people are having with it. =)

midnight oil242 votes

Actually, those "eldritch" plants fit more with a wyrm-class dragon. Long slender creatures with weird jaws.

In addition, while I find that the butt-wings are bad, they could have done a lot worse, and at least zyra looks cool here.

Bottom Laner1 votes

On an unrelated note, I seem to be needing a name change.

ZER0 21 votes

LOL

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