http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/022/940/spongebobicon.jpg
Seriously, I'm just going to show this to anyone who tries to claim Riot is decent at making varied character designs. Females especially. These are the exact same person and it's just fucking lame and boring. They didn't even try to make Evelynn a unique character.
Love the downvotes even though I'm right <3 Not even one constructive comment, Y'all Cute
Ebonmaw Dragon21 votesI CoMplAIN aBoUT eVeRYtHing bEfOrE eVEn ThE rEleAsE
Sexy Jack Rabbit2 votesRelease is completely irrelevant.
I'm referring to the teaser and currently presented character design :) thanks for the lack of constructive anything tho
6FlagsFunnelCake7 votesI don't think Ebonmaw here is the one lacking constructiveness...
Sexy Jack Rabbit2 votesNah he is.
Literally not one comment even bothered to offer a comment like "THey're different"
It's just comments attacking me over my title, comment or demeanor.
I'd be willing to discuss with people if they didn't have the brains of walnuts, but this is the boards afterall.
Ebonmaw Dragon7 votesNah he is.
Literally not one comment even bothered to offer a comment like "THey're different"
It's just comments attacking me over my title, comment or demeanor.
I'd be willing to discuss with people if they didn't have the brains of walnuts, but this is the boards afterall.
Well, it's not my fault that you are complaining about something that hasn't even been released yet.
Teaser images are not an accurate representation of the champ and the champion can receive changes before of even after the release.
And the comparison is unbiased and wrong, you cropped both images to show the similar poses, when in reality they arent in the same pose and you are comparing a skin vs a champion. Also, one wears a helmet and the other one has hair, the face of that Elise is also more rounded than the one of Eve and their mouths are different.... Oh, and one Teaser is a video, the other is a simple image.
Also, Both champions are from the Shadow Isles, so, it's normal to see similarities between them.
Sexy Jack Rabbit4 votesWhether I'm complaining about something that has been released or not isn't the point at all. And you seem to be purposefully avoiding the fact that I said I'm speaking about the teaser, and nothing else. :)
It's a joke you call my comparison "unbiased and wrong' when the fucking evidence that these two look VERY SIMILAR is right in front on you. You're going to deny the similarities? You're just ignorant if you really think they aren't essentially the spitting image of eachother.
I literally didn't crop shit, I just took a photo from the teaser which is a video.
If you look at the overall scheme of things these characters are the exact same in SO MANY ways, and if you literally have to nitpick and say "The face shape is slightly more rounded" then Riot has not gone far enough to differentiate these two characters.
So being form the shadow isles mean both champions need to have the exact face, eye, face and pose? Good argument and excuse for some lazy character design.
http://cf.c.ooyala.com/YyM2VqYTE6SJeE90QgJUFuSOQbJNaQux/promo315459445
Varied body shapes, species, colors the list goes on.
These two champions are male and from the frejlord, but are both INCREDIBLY DIFFERENT FROM EACHOTHER.
Both from Noxus. Brother even. Still incredibly different. Different body shapes, eyes, jaws.
Now let's compare 2 FEMALE champions from DIFFERENT Regions.
http://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/img/champion/splash/MissFortune_0.jpg
Similar body shapes, eye shape, thick thighs, similar jaws. The list goes on.
b4 you mention these 4 
Think and compare them to all the other female champions with the same bodys, face shapes, eyes and noses :)
SEKAI4 voteshttp://cf.c.ooyala.com/YyM2VqYTE6SJeE90QgJUFuSOQbJNaQux/promo315459445
These two champions are male and from the frejlord, but are both INCREDIBLY DIFFERENT FROM EACHOTHER.
So you literally debunked your own argument of this whole thread just to prove a point on a subset discussion of your own argument lol.
Sexy Jack Rabbit1 votesHardly, it contributes incredibly so. I said females especially :)
The title was great clickbait.
SEKAI2 votesHardly, it contributes incredibly so. I said females especially :)
I notice what you're pitching now.
Video games tend to lack varieties in female character designs. True. But that's in the process of being addressed anyway.
That said, it still doesn't excuse the fact the example used in the OP is a terrible example. It's like comparing the mugshot of Little Knight Amumu to the mugshot of Mordekaiser (or any 1 champ with something that covers their face) and say that Riot makes bad male character design because they all look the same or something.
Sexy Jack Rabbit3 votesIt's hardly a terrible example.
Let's even use the full images if you're so inclined.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/98Z7n5WVu_U/maxresdefault.jpg
Neutral cameria view, sex eyes, same pose (Whether reason is different), small pointed nose, the list goes on and I've said it a thousand times.
They're both teaser images with little variety from each other.
You've given me what I wanted from this post though. Just some understanding. Thanks and bye
Ebonmaw Dragon2 votesWhether I'm complaining about something that has been released or not isn't the point at all. And you seem to be purposefully avoiding the fact that I said I'm speaking about the teaser, and nothing else. :)
It's a joke you call my comparison "unbiased and wrong' when the fucking evidence that these two look VERY SIMILAR is right in front on you. You're going to deny the similarities? You're just ignorant if you really think they aren't essentially the spitting image of eachother.
I literally didn't crop shit, I just took a photo from the teaser which is a video.
If you look at the overall scheme of things these characters are the exact same in SO MANY ways, and if you literally have to nitpick and say "The face shape is slightly more rounded" then Riot has not gone far enough to differentiate these two characters.
So being form the shadow isles mean both champions need to have the exact face, eye, face and pose? Good argument and excuse for some lazy character design.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/98Z7n5WVu_U/maxresdefault.jpg
Those are the full images.
Now they see more different, don't they?
One wears an armor, the other has no clothes at all. One is raising a hand to show her deathly venom, the other one is touching her lips in a "seductive" way. One has a helm, the other has weird shadowlike hair. The camera angle is also different.
... Should i mention that one has a helm(or crown)/armor and the other one is (almost) naked?
Sexy Jack Rabbit2 votesShow would mention they both have the same small pointed noses, same jaw shapes, cupids lips and oval eyes? Let's not even get into body shape.
Both are giving 'sex' eyes to the camera that make them appear 'sexy but dangerous' Whether intention is different it's the same pose.
It's the same camera angle. Both images use a neutral view.
HalcyonDweller1 votesIf you wanted rational responses you should have made a rational post.
Instead you acted out in an offensive manner and mock everyone who disagrees with you. Of course you are going to attract similar responses, what did you expect?
Jeddy01710 votes[sg-lux-2]
Uuuuuggggghhhhhh, can we.....can we PLEASE....at least wait until we get the full design before we start passing judgements on Eve's new design instead of relying of a damn teaser?
Warwick Main6 votesRiot caters to a Eurocentric standard of beauty. Most of riots females have the same features across the board. I was hopeful they were becoming open to other types of faces with the releases of 
but I guess they haven't figured out a way to showcase a sexy female champion without her looking like a typical European model.
That said I think the new Eve looks gorgeous, 10/10 will be monitoring r34 for updates. Just hope future females may actually have some variety (thick lips, round face, without tons of make up/eye liner)
Beyond Legends1 votesWestern SJW centric beautity standards has little to do with geography or culure of other civilizations. The difference in beauty standard aren't that massive among each other. Quite frankly if most sjw weren't so western centrict themselves they would he beyond trigger at east asian beauty standards and norms.
Regardless I still think this entire debacle is a sad pathetic bitching among a small sect western focus audiance, which makes the game shit for alot east base audiance themselves. It's quite hilarious when the people claim for diversity are perhaps the nost ignorant asshats
LunSeiSleidee4 votesSJW SJW SJW SJW SJW SJW waah waah I only want anime girls real beauty scares me SJW SJW SJW
Warwick Main1 votes[{quoted}](name=Beyond Legends,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=rQ5QvKim,comment-id=000c0000,timestamp=2017-09-22T09:57:20.018+0000)
I don't understand your message. Are you saying that Riot is pandering to western audiences and that's why we don't see eastern beauty examples? That would make sense to me since I've yet to see a female champion with Asian features, in spite of having an entire continent inspired by their culture. I'll admit though, my desire for more variety isn't from a SJW point of view. I just want attractive female champs that don't all look alike. So far male champions have come in a variety of body types (From skinny, to muscular, to body builder, to morbidly obese) and an array of ethnicities. I just want females to have the same treatment.
Beyond Legends1 votesHonestly because beauty standards aren't all that different between culture when it comes to women. The reasom women don't have wide variaty of major shape differences is because most preople prefer the slender hourglass figure.
Granted the only real difference between east and west in beuaty standard mainly come from how the men a potrayed. Honestly just go through most eastern mmo amd your realize that east hase a far more strict sense of beuty for both men and women. Quite frankly there is a lack of “diversity” in alot in the eastern entertaiment market.
Also what exactly are asian feature doesn't the ionian have?
Nylisa1 votesi agree with your points here but lets not forget how some of the "unique" female characters got very popular as well, i mean our own jinx is pretty popular on internet and among fans and she doesn't have that usual hourglass figure,which i think is part of the reason she got so popular aside from her personality. or look at Mei from Overwatch or most of female characters from Final Fantasy franchise even tho they are pretty thin and slender they are still pretty popular.lightning for example she doesn't have D/DD cups or hourglass bottom either.
Beyond Legends1 votesJinx is fit under the slender catergory for the most part. And for the most part she still kinda share the same face syndrom with rest of the female cast.
Nylisa1 votesfair point. i thought we talking about figure only.
DrCyanide4 votesBecause teasers always look unique, like the final product, and not like other things in the game, right? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c3930b57bf1f463a44659d32753417863bf06d8014166da6da0d47e8384c49c9.jpg?w=800&h=1095
KoKoboto3 votesJust based off of Evelynn's short story in Zaun.
Elise: Immortality and beauty
Evelynn: Having fun, some spooky ulterior motive we're not sure of yet (How she makes a deal with Takeda and how she had some weird effect on Vayne)
Although they're both have a lot of seduction they're pretty different just off this.
Moonboy653 votesthe image on the left is Victorious Elise
you are A FOOL
[sg-shisa]
Sexy Jack Rabbit2 votesShisa is cute.
Moonboy651 votesyeah, but has nothing to do with the post
Valor Bot1 votesI think he knows that's Victorious Elise. The point OP is trying to make is that her facial features (as well as her pose) look nearly identical to the new Evelynn's. While I don't exactly disagree with him -- I mean, it's pretty clear the two are spitting images of each other, aside from minor non-anatomical differences like hair and tattoos -- I wouldn't go so far as to say Riot's character design is bad. At least, compared to some other popular MOBAs out there, like Dota 2 (whose characters are a lot more bare bones visually and don't tell much of a story), I think Riot's pretty good at creating compelling champions with appearances to match not only their gameplay, but their background and narrative tone, with plenty of examples to choose from in the roster right now.
@OP, you're right that this is yet another instance of the 'same face' issue, and it sucks we're not seeing a different form of beauty for Evelynn judging by that teaser, but keep in mind there's a lot more to successful character design than just faces. Let's wait and see what the rest of Eve looks like before writing her off.
Axzarious2 votesWhen I see DOTA2 characters, I see 'Chinese Knockoff Warcraft' unit design. Despite how different some look from the base units, when looking at the model I can still name the exact unit from warcraft 3.
Beyond Legends1 votesWell DoTa was Wc3 mod to begin with, it's not really fair to critcize their character design.
Axzarious1 votesThey could have done something more unique with the characters and the appearance of the game to NOT make it look like one of those 'knockoff' games cropping up from time to time.
Solari Fortune3 votesAh Yes lets base an entire Champs look off a teaser that only shows her face mainly.
Placentas3 votesUm...I mean the way you went about saying this was a bit rude, but you're not really wrong tbh.
Those are really basically the same face. Riot has even admitted that the majority of their female champions are basically interchangeable just different clothes.
Hopefully we see more of a difference in facial structure in her real splash art.
MF is my Waifu3 votesI'm offended by attractive-looking females being in my video games!
Okay. I'm glad it bothered you enough to make a thread about it.
Edit: Wait a second. You whine about these people not making constructive posts, yet your OP is shallow AF?
Sintrion2 votesOnly 1 example? lmao
Sexy Jack Rabbit2 votesExact same pose (Just mirrored), body shape, eye, nose and jaw shape :)
http://www.leaguesplash.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Morgana-Classic.jpg
There are a fuck tonne of examples.
Sintrion2 votesNot the same though?
Sexy Jack Rabbit2 votesYou're troll. Stop commenting thanks :)
Sintrion2 votesThat's the beauty of the internet though, you can't tell me what to do :D
Sexy Jack Rabbit1 votesGood to know you're 12, thanks for playing :)
Sintrion5 votesAssuming ages on the internet are we? Let me guess, you're 16 that likes to criticize people's work and loves watching anime?
Sintrion1 votesCan I also see the examples?
JarPoop IV2 votesWell uh character designs aren't based off just their faces mate. U probably couldn't even see her face clearly in game. It's more of the body silhouettes and her hair seems to be floating with weird pink mystical stuff on top. Probably alters her look further from elise. Anyways so far eve's personality or whatever we can see of it seems different enough from elise.
And yes, so elise and Eve are going to have somewhat similar faces. So shall we just complain about every guy with a similar face?
Primaquarius2 votes#I think we did this joke already
Zombie Slayer1 votesIts a staple in alot of games to make women similar and men so different because the main demographic is males who enjoy hot women. With that males are alot easier to make different because they can be big, muscular, lanky, fat, etc without being seen as a bad thing because men can be seen like that IRL without being unacceptable. Women on the other hand are a main selling point in a game made for teens/adult males so sexualizing women by using these features will bring in more players or keep old ones sure it would be cool to see different women but we haven't even gotten a full look at her and I certainly didnt see her as Elise she seems unique with what I can see sure her with the markings her glowing eyes shadows and all that. Lets just not judge her off one small picture and lets wait to see her full body.
Nylisa1 votesI do see your point about identical characters but i think the praises and positive feedback are more toward how the overall design is without taking its creativity into account.
Creativity is important yes but take a look at anime characters or the usual standards we have in video games.many,many ( i cant stress this enough) MANY characters look the same, same style, same elements.cat girl with fluffy tail and seductive personality comes to mind or "heavy" armors that cover everything but cleavage or good looking dude with 6 pack and massive muscles.seriously how did Darius went from a teenager with a fairly slim figure into a dude with massive muscle build in that short period of time? (warriors dont have THAT kind of muscle build as far as historical images go)
but people still do find it enjoyable to look at and watch. another example? things like spiderman movies , batman movies, when i look at them i see the exact same things being repeated over and over and people still pay to see these movies, its not something i would enjoy or understand why they enjoy it but as long as they do and i still get my fair share of creative characters why not?
i mean it was pretty disappointing for me when i saw Xayah and Rakan, then came Kayn, and then Star Guardians its purely just my personal taste that i didn't like them, because i enjoy creativity more than anything else.and then suddenly Ornn came along and it just blew me off so im good.
going a bit off topic what about story creativity? Darius comic had the usual "i had a loved one in my past we were happy and all that until the world separated us" something we've seen thousands of times but then came Nami comics which was very sweet.
if we wanna only talk about creative female designs i cant argue the "these characters like Taliyah already exist" card cause i think your argument is that Riot is not trying ANYMORE like they losing their creativity? for me its too early to judge on that because Xayah and Eve are the only recent female releases.
but i do hate to admit that the recent overall designs has been a bit of a let down for me, considering how it use to be in recent years.but as long as others are happy with it i can sit and wait for my turn.
sorry for wall of text i just wanted to give you a fair discussion here without down voting you blindly.
Penyu1 votes"Not even one constructive comment"
implying your thread/title is constructive at all
Magi Mayvin1 votesI mean I can see that one of elise's skins and evelynn's new teaser look similar but honestly why do you care?
The final product is gonna be different which is what actually matters even if you keep saying it doesn't, if anything what you just said in your post is the actual thing that doesn't matter at all.
ThunderSkelett1 votesXD you go up to Girl in public and say you look the simliar what as wrong with your parents?
HalcyonDweller1 votesThe patterns may be similar, but everything else does a good job of expressing the ideas present in each picture.
When others say you cropped the images, I believe they mean that you focused on the faces, leaving out the rest of the character portraits. Positions, angles, and facial expressions are all different and express different ideas between the pictures.
The Victorious Skin represents something more dignified, triumphant, and elegant.
The Evelynn teaser is more primal, more malicious and significantly more seductive (some might argue).
The colors also serve to demonstrate this. Not everything in art is about the outlines, what the artists do to fill them in is just as important to the uniqueness of the character.
IMO you are making a mountain out of a molehill.
