@Riot Ryze is getting voice updates with his VGU--so where is Shen's?

SuperLuigiLXIV·4/26/2016, 2:26:34 PM·5 votes·1,686 views

Because according to Reav3, you guys are giving Ryze a voice update:

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/H3klEX8s-ryze-champion-update?comment=000200000002000000020000

But you didn't give one to Shen, despite the fact that he needs one just as badly as Ryze does. In fact, I would argue that Shen needs the voice update worse than Ryze, because Shen has featured more prominently in the lore recently than Ryze. He needs interactions with Zed, Jhin, Akali and Kennen.

Now, as I recall, the reason given for Shen not getting a voice update is because ChampUp is constantly barraged with deadlines they have to meet to get things done. And that's fair--if they didn't have the time to update Shen's voice with the rest of his stuff at the time of his release, then that's that. It's acceptable to let them get the most important part out and save the voicework for later.

Thing is, if you have time to update the voice for Ryze, clearly you also have time to update the voice for Shen and Shen's been waiting.

So what gives? And don't tell me it's because Ryze has a visual and gameplay update and Shen only got a gameplay update. Yes, I saw it was listed that way on the ChampUp site. And no, not one single person is buying that lie. Shen DEFINITELY got a visual update along with his gameplay, and there isn't a "nuh uh" loud enough to make that not the case.

So why's he getting skipped? Why is his outdated, limited voicework okay to leave in the game and Ryze's isn't? Is it because you guys like Ryze better? Because Riot totally likes Ryze better, but that shouldn't have an impact on getting things done. Playing favorites should never be acceptable, and the fact that it's been so much worse over the past year hasn't exactly endeared me to Riot.

So I ask you--are you going to actually do your jobs and give Shen the voice update he's been waiting for? Or is he going to be thrown to the side in favor of champs you guys like better? Because I've been watching you guys promise a Yorick rework for three years, and frankly I don't have a lot of hope that you'll do anything for Shen this decade.

23 Comments

Moonboy654/26/2016, 3:00:24 PM2 votes

Shen only received a Gameplay Update + Maokai/Alistar tier VU so he didn't receive a new VO like Poppy and Taric

Pyrodinium4/26/2016, 6:51:38 PM2 votes

Riot has stated that they are going to focus their VGUs on the champions that are currently at the very bottom tier in terms of overall visual and gameplay quality, which Ryze fits perfectly (tremendously outdated model and a nightmare to balance).

I will try to track the comment when they discuss this, but in a nutshell, they are trying to avoid scenarios like those of Shen and Fiora, when they tought that they had an opportunity to execute quickly and successfully on a champion in the "not-so-bad" tier, but the work ballooned in a way that was undesirable (Fiora's update took almost as much effort as a Sion-level rework despite the champion not having a critical need for it, and Shen also required a lot of work, but since he was slotted only for a gameplay update, no voice work was done for him).

Personally, I don't think they should go back on Shen to do voiceover on him, as that would not only delay work on other champions, but since Riot is not entirely satisfied with the thematic direction they ended up going for with the spiritual blade thing.

Arakadia4/27/2016, 4:32:18 AM1 votes

Yeah... its sad. I have two skins for Shen and past lv5 mastery on him. He still doesn't have a recall, his ult is still just the old recall painted purple (His ult could be SO cool like in his splashart), and his E wasn't changed, but not really in need of it.

Neamean4/27/2016, 4:38:30 AM1 votes

As much as I want new VO for Shen and other who were VU(Alistar Maokai SingedKassadin ) I can accept the fact that Shen didn't get a new VO. He is the silent type, he don't speak much so not getting new VO is acceptable but just cause it acceptable to me doesn't mean he doesn't need one. All in all, yes, he needs one but it isn't necessary in my opinion however I cannot say the same about the other VU champs.

ViashinoWizard4/27/2016, 4:38:39 AM1 votes

If I had to guess, I'd say it's that despite how limited it is, Shen's voice work is actually quite good while Ryze's voice is super trash garbage.

Niyumi4/26/2016, 9:36:30 PM1 votes

Faker played Ryze, so every kid buys Ryze and skins for him -- he's profitable. Shen, however, is not. So Ryze will get attention, and Shen will be ignored.

Welcome to the wonderful world of F2P. ^^

Thund3r Ang3l4/26/2016, 4:33:59 PM1 votes

Yeah, They said that he will get a maokai level but this is not true. He got a fresh model... I dont get why they skipped his voice update too ! It upset me !

We will have to wait 4 years so they can fix Shen's clunky sword mechanic and finally get a recall animation and a voice update.