Quinn needs to be moved up to tier 1 candidate VGU for the following reasons:

Zoli Ben·Feb 26, 2018·3 votes·560 views

1, she is becoming the new , having massive identity crisis 2, after and get done, no more female champions on the list and that would make certain playerbase feel left out because the emphasis are growing on VGUs now. 3, she is played by less than 1% of players combining everything. 4, a dual play champion has a massive potential of uniqueness to LoL.

Things that must be done when VGU happens: 1, Rename the champion to Quinn and Valor. Have emphasis on Valor too. 2, Make Valor like a passive, that gives her two different kits. 3, Make her more Demacian. 4,

I was in hurry when writing, but the campaign begins, she needs to be recognised at least as a tier 1 candidate, she isnt worser than or but she can be better. I am asking for Quinn main's help in regards to help see rioters what is core to her.

4 Comments

Zoli BenFeb 26, 20183 votes

I do not want Quinn to be prioritized over by any other champion, just have her be in that bucket, she was already said by Reav3 to be nearing that point. I just want her on that list as she deserves a spot there with VGUs falling down

GreenLoreFeb 26, 20181 votes

As for your reasons: 1.Thematically she is LoLs falconer,lorewise she is a commoner who tries to climb up the command chain,where is the identity crisis you are talking about?

2.Honestly gender shouldn't play too much into the choices.I mean if Kayle and Morgana are really the next VGUs after Nunu,then 4 of the 6 VGUs this year would be female,which is actually quite outstanding,justifying a lesser amount of female VGUs for the next years. Ignoring male champs that need the rework more just for the sake of doing a female VGU just feels bad and they could simply increase the amount of female new champs to balance it out.

3.Do you have a source for that?Eitherway,some champs are bound to appear on the bottom of the barrel.

4.Well tell that Kindred a champ specifically designed to be a duo,so if they want to focus on that aspect,I'd say Kindred is actually more in need of a rework for that.

Valor BotFeb 26, 20181 votes

I think what OP meant by identity crisis is that her kit lacks a cohesive identity and is trying to do too many things at once (marksman, diver, assassin).

Also while I agree with your other points, I don’t see any reason why Kindred and Quinn should have to compete for a rework. :) Both of them were designed to be teamwork-based two-in-one champions, yet neither of them fulfills this fantasy particularly well. They both need significant work; the reason Quinn is likely to get hers sooner is because she’s older and her visuals/kit/VO haven’t aged as well. That doesn’t mean Kindred doesn’t deserve changes too; hell, I’d love to see something along the scope of Aatrox’s gameplay update to make Wolf a more active part of their kit.

I think the main grievance with Quinn in particular is that Riot hyped up and promoted her as Quinn and Valor, yet they ultimately took that aspect away from the champion by renaming them to just “Quinn” while also removing the ability to play as Valor further down the line. For comparison, just imagine if they renamed Kindred to Lamb and took away Wolf’s auto attacks during W... that is pretty much the situation Quinn is in right now and it sucks for those of us who love the character.

GreenLoreFeb 26, 20181 votes

Ah ok,with this being the story,art&sound forum I didn't think that identity crisis was referring to the gameplay side of things. I agree about this point,Quinn tries to be an assassin and a marksman at the same time,but since assassins excel at burst damage and marksman excel at constant damage,they kinda clash.

As for Kindred: The thing is that Kindred being a duo is even more of a point for them.Their name does refer to both Wolf and Lamb and their whole design is based around yin and yang,yet Wolf does even less than Valor(even after Valor isn't playable anymore),with him only being used for the W,E and a bit the passive,while Valor is used in all of Quinns skills except for her E.

Anyway in the optimal outcome they'll eventually rework both Kindred and Quinn to emphasize the dual-nature on both of them in their own ways(though Kindred doesn't need a VGU, a GU would be enough),my point is that if Riot really wants to look for a champ to emphasize the concept of a dual champ,then they have Kindred as an option as well,its not a reason to push Quinn the VGU-ladder,when there are so many other champs that need a VGU more than her.