Two "Viking" Champs?

WitchQueen Annie··1 votes·1,545 views

Are Tryndamere and Olaf both "Viking" type champs?

And if so, isn't that repetitious? Isn't there usually just one of each archetype?

They both wear what looks like "Viking" type helmets and they both have Ults that are based on rage; they both have some invulnerability, high melee damage, and shouting mechanic....

Why?

11 Comments

GreenLore3 votes

Yeah overall the 2 could use a bit more distinction. Tryndamere is pretty much supposed to be the barbarian hero(think of conan the barbarian,or pretty much every barbarian class in an rpg),while Olaf is the actual viking Though Trynda does look pretty viking-like,so I guess this might actually change a bit if he gets an eventual VGU

To make matters worse,they are also both berserkers. Though I'd argue that Tryndamere might be THE rage-champion of the game. Sure there are other champs who have a ragebar,or who get into a battlefrenzy,but none of them focus this much on rage as a theme as Tryndamere.

WitchQueen Annie1 votes

So you're saying Tryndamere is more of a continental raider (ex Huns) while Olaf is a true Nordic raider from Scandinavian peninsula?

GreenLore1 votes

Yeah,its not a big difference,but its at least something.

Overall I think Akali kinda suffers from a similar problem. Every other Ninja has something that makes them stand out. Shen is a spirit fighter(I'm actually pretty sure that this was added to differentiate him from the others) Kennen is a lightning user Zed uses shadow doppelgangers

Meanwhile Akali has boobs and thats about it.

Valor Bot1 votes

Akali's one unique aspect is her smoke abilities, IMO. There aren't any ninjas in League that use smoke so if she ever gets a VGU that might be a good direction to push her towards.

GreenLore1 votes

Well she has one smoke bomb that doesn't even look like smoke,so while I wouldn't say that her smoke abilities are that outstanding(Graves has just as many smoke abilities and his looks at least like actual smoke),it is something that could serve as a basis for her update.

Ralanr1 votes

I'd like it if Riot considered her smoke bomb more core to her identity than shadow dash, but I've been told the opposite.

Ebonmaw Dragon1 votes

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Sure there are other champs who have a ragebar,or who get into a battlefrenzy,but none of them focus this much on rage as a theme as Tryndamere.

What?! Renekton is the one that trully focuses on the rage, from his gameplay style to the lore. He is the original user of Rage.

In other hand, the Theme of Trynda is... weird, sure he is angry, but he is a warrior and king as well. I think that Riot should be more focused on the part of him being a leader, after all his tittle is the Barbarian King.

GreenLore1 votes

Renekton honestly feels more like he is driven by extreme bloodlust or if he is in a constant battlefrenzy.(it doesn't really help that he is literally insane by this moment)

Sure he has a ragebar,but rage doesn't really feel that central to his kit,as it only empowers his abilities and while it isn't completely unimportant to his character,I'd say that it is kinda overshadowed by his insanity

Tryndamere however is motivated by rage,is hinted to be struggling to control it(as Greyor talks about that) and has actual abilities that are based on his rage giving him power(his Q and R who both keep him alive through rage alone),making rage more than just a special resourcebar for him.

AlienPrimate1 votes

He is a king with no people to lead because they were all killed. I think that would make any king a little angry.

Digielf3 votes

Tryndamere is a barbarian not a viking, his helmet might look similar with that style but its not the same

Valor Bot2 votes

Yeah, I think once Riot gets around to giving these two their full VGUs they'll look to make them a lot more distinct than they currently are, both gameplay wise and thematically. That could mean taking away the "viking" thematic completely from one of them, or maybe just making the two very different kinds of vikings, which could also work (Quinn and Teemo for example are both League's scouts but look and feel quite different).

I will say though that unlike Olaf, Tryndamere is more of a tribal barbarian/arctic warrior than a seafaring viking.

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