Can we just do a mass update of all outdated spell (and item) icons?

THE RlVER KlNG·Jan 19, 2017·4 votes·1,109 views

There are still several champions with horribly outdated spell icons, which are still octagons:

There is then an even more extensive list of champions whose icons (or at least those that have not been updated individually) are not as dated but inarguably do not reflect the current capabilities of the Riot art department and the icons they have been producing as of late (excluding Galio and Urgot, who have been confirmed for VGUs):

This isn't a necessary feature of League but it is greatly appreciated. When you did the updates to Shaco, Lux, and Gragas, that was very much appreciated, as well as when you updated certain icons individually or as a set during the class reworks, so can we just go ahead and do it for all the other champions that need them, in the very least the champions that still have their original beta or alpha icons?

8 Comments

GreenLoreJan 19, 20173 votes

Lots of characters on your list are on the list for a VGU,so I kinda doubt that they'd get icon updates before that.

THE RlVER KlNGJan 19, 20171 votes

Only Galio and Urgot are.....

GreenLoreJan 20, 20172 votes

Uhm no Nocturne Irelia Swain Pantheon Volibear Amumu DrMundo Evelynn and Nunu are all on the VGU list as well(and there are possibly some others that we simply don't know about)

They are not currently worked on,but are still planned to receive a VGU.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/Aa02NmcX-i-feel-like-we-need-to-do-vus-by-themselves-again?comment=00040000 http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/riot-official/uTEZqLz9-chromas-yorick-and-champ-mastery-in-ask-riot?comment=000c0000000e0000000000000000000000010000

Meta NoirJan 21, 20171 votes

First of all, I agree a lot on the item icon part of yours. Below you have the opportunity to read, why it is currently difficult to achieve for Riot. They are much more organized and logical today – even though it doesn't seem the slightest for a lot of players, that are just not that much into trying to looking behind the curtain.

It still is important in the long run though, that we get full high quality item icons as standard like the updated Deathfire Grasp (RIP), which IronStylus who sadly isn't a part of Riot anymore, and some others actually put a lot of thought into.

item 3142 item 3071 item 3068 item 3143 item 3165 item 3035 item 3124 item 3001 item 1053 item 3050 item 3074 item 3046

Not even counting all the new icons and some I've definitly missed, all these icons got beautifully updated and that even faction related.

With these in mind the potential for the items below is just insane and gets me hyped!

item 3174 item 3136 item 3151 item 3100 item 3041 item 3091 item 3089 item 3102 item 3156 item 3155 Shadow Isles item 3190 item 3077 item 3222 item 3026 Targon (Leona, last two maybe Kayle related if she'll be Targonian) item 3027 item 3157 Urtistan (Zilean related) item 3135 item 3115 Void ( the staff Kassadin, Malzahar or simply Void design related) item 3004 item 3042 Ionia (originates from ''Masamune'', hit google – Ionian is the clear way to go) item 3060 Demacia (…like Randuin's Omen – Garen or Jarvan IV related) item 3085 Targon (… fits the full name the best, – Ionia, Freljord or Shurima still could fit though) item 3101 Demacia, Ionia or Void (many possibilities – for example Fiora, Akali or Kha'Zix related)

I think a lot most players would agree on the importance, that League needs finally overall visual consistency in the game after all those years, with items being a huge mostly untouched part of it. Too much at once would create uproar though, because a lot of players who don't play League that much (and are too lazy to at least scroll over the patch notes – sigh) would get irritated, having problems to find them in the shop. In my personal opinion single changes, small and sometimes a bit bigger batches would fit nicely for this, getting people more used to it.

Especially the League community can be, in a friendly tone that isn't actually my view, VERY questionable when it comes to change.

By the way, there are even more like Mordekaiser , Chogath & Rammus , which aren't even on your list, because they already got their icons updated – even having different states of -high- priority.

I think Riot just realized, that a lot of cases are just a huge waste of resources and just delay bigger updates. All the straight VGUs that happend made sure, that these Champions don't need any further cosmetic update in the future and so are completely of the list unlike Renekton for example. His model is even inaccurate to his splash art. His model has green crystals on his armor, even very noticable on his forehead, his splash has it completely missing and his eyes are significantly different though.

It is just all a matter of resources, priorities and effectivity for Riot.

Having to do with that they still get huge backlash for Renekton Singed Kassadin Maokai Fiora Shen not having new VO and individual other stuff, which I often still find overdramatized by the community; it is pretty clear, especially by a newer statement by Jaredan (in in his case in terms of VO/lore), that Riot will definitly come back to their individual needs, it just will take a long time, because they already got some pretty significant love and it is a matter of opportunity and the other factors stated above.

Good thing is though, that in the next 2 to 3 years we will get probably rid of all the ''worst offenders'', which are an overal mess.

Sion Poppy Taric Yorick are already of the list.

Warwick Galio Urgot already on the way.

Evelynn Nunu Mordekaiser Swain Irelia Pantheon already on the (very) high priority list.

All these had/have huge problems with their theme, gameplay, visuals at the same time.

There are also many others and even more Champions, like mentioned by GreenLore, which are also considered to get a VGU in the future.

Things will get interesting, when the most horrible are all finished, because Riot mentioned they will also do smaller VGUs, when kits are already pretty nice, unique and functional, but need a little polish/modernization or just more strategic uniqueness.

I am really asking myself how the time between ChampUp releases will be then, praying it will be a much smaller time window, reminding of the times when Nasus Garen Sivir got VUs, just a bit longer, because of gameplay kit touchups, though with more focus on visuals and a much straighter stance on theme in mind. Their infrastructure is much better and professional today, so I am really excited and looking forward to having faster surprises for us in the bit further future.

PS: Thresh Icons are totally fine and Rengar icons got overall polished with the Assassin Update, not just his Q, made them much more high definition in general. It just wasn't highlighted/noted on surrenderat20 for example or by Riot itself.

LanceworksJan 22, 20171 votes

I think one of the reasons Riot doesn't update a bunch of small outdated VFX and icons is because of clarity. Imagine if one patch, 50% of the items in the shop got changed visually. It would make it harder to find what you wanted to buy.

Meta NoirJan 30, 20171 votes

''Too much at once would create uproar though, because a lot of players who don't play League that much (and are too lazy to at least scroll over the patch notes – sigh) would get irritated, having problems to find them in the shop. In my personal opinion single changes, small and sometimes a bit bigger batches would fit nicely for this, getting people more used to it.''