In Kayn's bio, he and only one other ninja easily killed an entire Noxian patrol who were guarding Rhaast. I'd assume Noxus would post elite soldiers to guard such a valuable artifact, but Kayn and his friend made mincemeat out of them. So how does the Order stack up to other champions? Can Kayn take on Sion? Can Zed? How much of a threat are they to Noxus really?
Helmight6 votesThe Order of Shadows is effectively a small, but very elite, army of specialists. They can make operations like the one in Kayn's backstory to deny assets to Noxus or destabilize areas of the empire, but they would likely not stand a chance against Noxus's armies in open combat. They're saboteurs and assassins, not really soldiers.
So while the Order can accomplish much, they're largely dependent on avoiding direct conflict and working in the shadows - something that the Black Rose knows all too much about. If the Order tried to take on Noxus Prime, they'd almost assuredly come into conflict with the Rose, and that's not a fight I think they can outright win.
Ebonmaw Dragon2 votes
Pirates win against ninjas, GP stole an important item from the Order of Shadows... so, i dont think that they are powerfull enough to defeat the Noxian Army (or Sion alone).. But, to be fair, GP stole a whole ship of the Noxian army as well
Limrick1 votesWell GP is a total badass, so I don't think that says the ninja re bad, just that he's really damn good.
Yautja wannabe1 votesCan Kayn or Zed take on Sion... Well, that depends, is Sion stacking armor? All jokes aside though, I'm with Helmight on this one. The Order of the Shadow, while very powerful and elite, is secretive. They prefer to work in the shadows as their name implies, and try to manipulate the fate of Ionia from behind the scenes, much like their rivals in Kinkou Order. Also you have to take into account that many other champions could of made short work of those elite Noxian guards. It would be like a champion vs. a minion wave. Obviously the champion is going to win because only the most elite fighters in all of Runeterra are selected to fight in the League of Legends.
Ebonmaw Dragon1 votesObviously the champion is going to win because only the most elite fighters in all of Runeterra are selected to fight in the League of Legends.
There is no such thing in the lore anymore.
Yautja wannabe1 votesI know, but sometimes I forget that since Riot's been changing up the lore so much >.<
SolarisCorvus1 votesIn open combat i dont think anyone short of Galio or Naut can take on sion (maybe renekton). Now if it's subterfuge i think the the order would have a good chance of winning if they are on their home turf but if its on noxian land then the black rose would probably win due to the sheer and diverse amount of magic they have at their disposal.
Eternal7911 votesWell, I know they definitely couldn't do anything against say the Shadow Isles. Kayn might stand a chance though cause of Rhaast, but I'm not really sure about that.
Krabohod1 votesThey, in first, are secret agents. Kahn used walls a lot to make this very fast attack. Plus Noxus' soldiers were not prepared, cause they prob was thinking that on their land they are kinda safe.
What's more interesting - Does Order of Shadow have political strength or influence? Do they have political weight?
Craft Zeppelin2 votesThey, in first, are secret agents. Kahn used walls a lot to make this very fast attack. Plus Noxus' soldiers were not prepared, cause they prob was thinking that on their land they are kinda safe.
What's more interesting - Does Order of Shadow have political strength or influence? Do they have political weight?
I don't know how much, but they have enough intel to confirm huge amounts of cash has been spent by the council and find what it was used for. (Which was Jhin) WAY before Shen noticed. In fact, Shen did not know he was being stalked by BOTH of them before Zed gave the casual "Hi bro, laser sight is on your forhead btw."
Also with this new lore around Noxus sabotage, I think they have huge connections around runeterra. It is a bit embarrassing they got raided by pirates. Why does Kayn has no interations with GP?
Krabohod1 votesYeah, they are secret agents, like I said. And it seems like not bad agents. Maybe they are kinda CIA or Special Operations Agency
What is interesting - do they have any political weight? Do simple Ionian know of them and what their stance on stuff? Do Order contacts in any political Ionian powers or they like: "we ate doing our own thing, do not disturb"?