So, since the Institute/"League" doesn't exist....does that mean all the wars never happened?

Nikushimi Zero··5 votes·810 views

Meaning the Noxus invasion of Ionia? The war between demacia and noxus? Is that all still canon just the stuff about the league and the institute isn't?

I'm curious to know for futurue character designs and concepts as well as how things all fit together now. Thanks!

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Dextix LT6 votes

Nobody knows, i thnk even riot doesnt know what the fck is canon anymore.

Sharjo3 votes

The Noxian invasion of Ionia is still canon although without a League to resolve stuff afaik the three southern provinces are still occupied by Noxus.

The whole Kalamanda conflict is...I dunno really. I'm assuming it's not canon anymore but Noxus and Demacia have had tons of wars in the past that're still canon, most recently revealed being the one where Sion died while killing Jarvan I.

Nikushimi Zero1 votes

Thanks. It helps when creating champion concepts for fun to share and post on the boards as well as just knowing what the hell is going on XD

I would like to think that the Ionians have pushed them out, or at least held them off and made them unable to advance further, but idk. Perhaps the Demacians or Piltover sent aid to get the Noxians outta there. Who knows.

Thanks for the reply though!

GreenLore2 votes

I think kalamanda is still canon considering that swain talked about a "charade" that involved the use of J4s blood,most likely referencing the kalamanda incident where J4 suddenly attacked swain.

So while we can't be sure if it is still canon or not,it certainly looks like it is gonna stay canon(but most likely with a different ending).

Nikushimi Zero1 votes

Most likely. Just a bit difficult to pinpoint what might still be canon and what might not be.

Melancholy Exile1 votes

As Sharjo said, these events apparently still happened, we just know absolutely nothing of the fine details or how the changes in the way that they played out have changed the state of Valoran and the political climate between its city-states. Basically we just have to accept that things are canon, no matter how awkward or illogical, until Riot either institutes retcons to explain their changes or writes them out of continuity altogether.

Nikushimi Zero1 votes

Yeah, I was thinking that, but just wasn't sure. Thanks for the reply!

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Legacy of Xion1 votes

Everything is canon still - just remove the League, IoW, and Summoners from everything.

Messy answer? Yeah. And it's still a mess.

Nikushimi Zero1 votes

Pretty much. Just makes it hard lately to figure out things. I started making concepts a while ago (Maybe 6 months or so?) and was told on a recent one (2 months or so) that the Institute, Summoners, etc. didn't exist. I had NO idea. XD Up until that point I always made a way for my champions to have joined the league, but now with it NOT being canon I have started to introduce them in other ways. Usually if the Noxians attacked a place (Ionia for example) I would use that as a way to introduce a champion or some other reason, but if things weren't canon anymore it makes it a lot difficult to pinpoint things. Especially with champions already out there.

It is a huge mess.

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