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Can we give Eve the Karthus treatment ?

Angelofchaos16x·Jul 4, 2015·20 votes·1,985 views

Last year on patch 4.9, Karthus got a major update that made a great champ into a great champ, with no balance changes involved. They just cleaned him up. He got: a visual upgrade across all skins, a new voice over, new lore, new icons and a new classic splash artwork. And all those things ( Other then maybe the voice over) Eve needs. She is called Evelynn: The widowmaker, Primary role: Assassin, secondary role: Mage. But she looks more like Evelynn: The Dominatrix with a killing fetish, Primary role: Assassin, secondary role: Stripper. Her Tango skin is my favorite, because it shows Eve as she should be: A exquisitely gorgeous assassin, with the ability to turn her gentle touch into a killing blow. Her lore doesn't tell squat about anything other then she is a killer, and that you can tell just by her gameplay. Her icons and her Splash art just look outdated and sad. Please Riot, you have shown gorgeous work in the past, please, work some magic with Evelynn, give her some love.

29 Comments

SeekêrJul 4, 20154 votes

I have never in the history of pc gaming seen such a bipolar role on a class/hero/champion.

1 month: Tank/bruiser eve strong pick 1 month later: assassin/mage eve strong pick, tank eve is troll 1 month later:"why the fuck are you building so much damage on eve? you build her tank or else she is useless"

Might be because I'm low elo but it seems like eve has switched roles more than illidan the betrayer, and for those who don't know, he is a betrayer and has swapped sides like 5 times.

GreenLoreJul 4, 20152 votes

yeah its because eves skills are all over the place. Her skills scale with both ad and ap,so regardless of what you built,you always leave out some aspects of her kit(if you go ad,you don't get bonus damage on her ult,if you go ap,you waste her bonus attack speed).

Her passive is suited for an assassin(and thats part of her thematic),but her ult is an engaging tool and her Q is used for damage over time,both things you usually see on tanks,but she lacks other tank tools like cc.

Avios1Jul 4, 20153 votes

I don't know, I mean lookin at the purple melons in the loading screen make me happier... :)

Heckin SupportJul 4, 20153 votes

Evelynn to me has a HUGE identity crisis. Riot has said before they expect to rework her at some point now when that point is we'll never know Evelynn item 3070

BârdJul 4, 20151 votes

Again?

Heckin SupportJul 4, 20152 votes

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Again?

I mean like they said a complete overhaul. How they said they wanted to make her more of a vampire woman with better hybrid damage.

BârdJul 4, 20153 votes

Diddnt they learn from Vladimir that vampires dont work?

insaiyanbaccaJul 4, 20157 votes

hes a hemomancer(a blood mage) not a vampire fyi

BârdJul 4, 20152 votes

I know what riot SAYS he is.

But come on.

I dont buy it.

especially with Nosferatu Vlad being a thing

Rinky DinkyJul 4, 20151 votes

?

MimaropaJul 4, 20153 votes

Using "vampire" is too mainstream. Hemomage is so hipster.

Count ZubatJul 4, 20152 votes

Vladimir and his skins are mainly based on famous vampires - his name is clearly a reference to Vlad III Tepes (Vlad, Vladimir, nearly the same names), he's Count skin references Count Dracula, and his Marquis skin references Gilles de Rais, another guy who was believed to be a vampire, and he has skin called Nosferatu. All that blood stuff, he's jokes on how he drinks all types of blood, he clearly is a vampire.

insaiyanbaccaJul 4, 20151 votes

call him what he want but he is officially stated as a hemomancer that can turn his body into blood.

Count ZubatJul 4, 20151 votes

Kinda like turning into a myst...

GreenLoreJul 4, 20151 votes

But vlad doesn't suck blood and he isn't undead...

Count ZubatJul 4, 20151 votes

His Q is equivalent of blood sucking, and to be serious, vampires are hardly often descbribed as undead creatures - they are nearly immortal, but they didn't die, while being undead means to be resurrected after death in form of monster: either unintelligent one (skeleton, zombie), or intelligent (liches). Vampires often are created when person is still alive, either they inherit vampirism from a parents, they can get bitten by other vampire, but never created from already dead person.

GreenLoreJul 4, 20151 votes

Actually they never said which way they'll take her. Vampire is just one of the options. I've also read how they thought about making her more of a succubus for example.

CrazedPorcupineJul 4, 20153 votes

Eve is scheduled for a VU, but she's pretty low on the list. At least she actually got a skin recently! (the Safecracker Eve)

Taric, Poppy, Yorick, GP, MF are all higher up than Eve is.

junglerboy16Jul 4, 20151 votes

Taric is in the final stages of work last they mentioned (maybe next PBE cycle? fingers crossed!) Poppy will probably be later this fall or maybe in the winter, and GP and MF are supposed to be done some time this summer to go along with the upcoming bilge water event.

RookPusherJul 4, 20152 votes

I'm pretty sure the impetus for that was LoL going on market in China.

DreamspitterJul 4, 20152 votes

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I'm pretty sure the impetus for that was LoL going on market in China.

Even so Karthman looked old and cruddy.

A Miss FortuneJul 4, 20152 votes

Gameplay-wise, Evelynn is really strong. She might be gimped by her passive but she's still really strong and I've had absolutely 0 problems playing her aside from her late game fall off.

Her appearence, voice, and lore is a whole different story though. She's a total mess. I think she definitely needs a makeover there, however I still think she should be creepy-ish like she is now, just not like, wearing 500 dog collars and sound like a 60 year old grandma when she looks like she could be 20.

UomoAfideJul 4, 20151 votes

"Here T.F., come kiss Granny"

A Miss FortuneJul 4, 20151 votes

;)

DreamspitterJul 4, 20152 votes

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Last year on patch 4.9, Karthus got a major update that made a great champ into a great champ, with no balance changes involved. They just cleaned him up. He got: a visual upgrade across all skins, a new voice over, new lore, new icons and a new classic splash artwork. And all those things ( Other then maybe the voice over) Eve needs. She is called Evelynn: The widowmaker, Primary role: Assassin, secondary role: Mage. But she looks more like Evelynn: The Dominatrix with a killing fetish, Primary role: Assassin, secondary role: Stripper. Her Tango skin is my favorite, because it shows Eve as she should be: A exquisitely gorgeous assassin, with the ability to turn her gentle touch into a killing blow. Her lore doesn't tell squat about anything other then she is a killer, and that you can tell just by her gameplay. Her icons and her Splash art just look outdated and sad. Please Riot, you have shown gorgeous work in the past, please, work some magic with Evelynn, give her some love.

As long as we get a classic Evelynn skin.

DwarvenGiantJul 4, 20152 votes

As far as we know, they really wanna give her an update, they are just not sure how to approach with it ("What is she exactly? A succubus? a vampire? A mix of the two? A half darkin? Something else?").

Though IronStylus said that there's a concept for Eve that Gem Lin (LoneWingy) made, that's currently sitting on the backburner.

StellafreyjaJul 4, 20151 votes

Riot has stated that Eve wouldn't receive a new skin (or at least a good skin) until she receives a VU. I'm hoping that will be soon because I agree. She has the assassin vibe in her current look and kit, but she doesn't really have a personality really.

ChaosThiefJul 4, 20151 votes

So can you tell us what eve is then?

PhantomGGJul 4, 20151 votes

Honestly I cant say anything about her toolkit update for shes allready good as is, but she more then likely wil get a major visual rework and splash art rework due to the fact shes seeing a lot of meta play as of late, riot prefers to update the champions who are used more frequently. And in my opinoin they should for well, if you were a company would you want your most popular product looking like shit? No you wouldent, you would want to polish it up and make it look clean. So yeah i predict a possible visual update within the next 5 months.

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